Open 655: Fire and Ice Mafia OVER

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VC 1.8

Charloux

L-4

(3) malpascp, Blix900, Creature
Tenshii

L-5

(2) Io, Drone
Blix900

L-6

(1) Dunnstral
Io

L-6

(1) Lowell
Kop

L-6

(1) Expedience
malpascp

L-6

(1) Tenshii
Creature

L-7

(0)
Drone

L-7

(0)
Dunnstral

L-7

(0)
Expedience

L-7

(0)
Firebringer

L-7

(0)
Lowell

L-7

(0)
MariaR

L-7

(0)

No Lynch

L-7

(0)

Not Voting (4) Charloux, Firebringer, Kop, MariaR

With 13 alive, it requires seven (7) votes to achieve a lynch!

V/LA: N/A

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-10-16 11:00:00)

[Expedience]

Unless you find a flaw on Hark's reasoning, it seems to me like Char was just faking his scumreads, which is a pretty obvious tell.

Where is Char faking his scumreads?

Everyone in this game is scumhunting, which makes your statement pointless. You read him as null-scum (for whatever reason, it was early game), then "incited" him to scumhunt more?

Nullscum is a totally jusified read, as you said, early game. And I fail to see why inciting a person to scumhunt (especially given the context) is scum indicative. If anything, it's "good person" indicative. Like how an SE/IC would encourage a Newbie to scumhunt.

Also the "later on" part just makes it seem like that's where you're focusing, and that Hark's alignment doesn't really weigh on you wanting him lynched or not.

Yep. Cuz scum!Charloux is totally gonna make a post implying that he plans on attacking Hark in the future. Totes.

VOTE: malapascp

This feels like scum trying to pick apart posts and paint it as scummy.

Harkonnen argues that Charloux's read on him is fake in the post that malapaspcas quoted, because Charloux discredits Harkonnen as being bad / VI while calling him scum

Re: the sarcastic part: yeah, he would? Re-read the post, it doesn't sound right. You can't just refute anything with "yep, because scum!player is totally going to do something scummy :roll; xd".

You missed the context I think, mal's post makes sense to me.

I assume you think Charloux is town?

[Expedience]

Re: re: the sarcastic part: nvm about that point, I actually remembered the context incorrectly

[Firebringer]

Ohh man. Really feeling urge to leave this game.

[malpascp]

Unless you find a flaw on Hark's reasoning, it seems to me like Char was just faking his scumreads, which is a pretty obvious tell.

Where is Char faking his scumreads?

Voting for someone you think is newbtown

Everyone in this game is scumhunting, which makes your statement pointless. You read him as null-scum (for whatever reason, it was early game), then "incited" him to scumhunt more?

Nullscum is a totally jusified read, as you said, early game. And I fail to see why inciting a person to scumhunt (especially given the context) is scum indicative. If anything, it's "good person" indicative. Like how an SE/IC would encourage a Newbie to scumhunt.

It's the first time I see someone go "Dude I think you're scum so you should try getting reads I like so I don't think you're scum anymore, or else I'm going to get you lynched. And it's weird and seems scummy to me

Also the "later on" part just makes it seem like that's where you're focusing, and that Hark's alignment doesn't really weigh on you wanting him lynched or not.

Yep. Cuz scum!Charloux is totally gonna make a post implying that he plans on attacking Hark in the future. Totes.

He didn't imply it though. Also you're basically saying scumslips don't exist because scum would "totally" never scumslip. "Totally" makes sense

VOTE: malapascp

This feels like scum trying to pick apart posts and paint it as scummy.

My case is Hark's case explained by someone else, because I was dumbfounded that after seeing this (remember I read the whole thing in one sitting) everyone just shrugged it off, Hark replaced out and that was it

Also the posts I mentioned from Char are pretty much sequential. Also I don't know what you mean by "pick apart", but if I replace in and find fishy posts from 20 days ago I'm not going to ignore them just because everyone else did. It seems to me you don't want this issue to be brought back for whatever reason.

[Io]

Unless you find a flaw on Hark's reasoning, it seems to me like Char was just faking his scumreads, which is a pretty obvious tell.

Where is Char faking his scumreads?

Voting for someone you think is newbtown

Everyone in this game is scumhunting, which makes your statement pointless. You read him as null-scum (for whatever reason, it was early game), then "incited" him to scumhunt more?

Nullscum is a totally jusified read, as you said, early game. And I fail to see why inciting a person to scumhunt (especially given the context) is scum indicative. If anything, it's "good person" indicative. Like how an SE/IC would encourage a Newbie to scumhunt.

It's the first time I see someone go "Dude I think you're scum so you should try getting reads I like so I don't think you're scum anymore, or else I'm going to get you lynched. And it's weird and seems scummy to me

Also the "later on" part just makes it seem like that's where you're focusing, and that Hark's alignment doesn't really weigh on you wanting him lynched or not.

Yep. Cuz scum!Charloux is totally gonna make a post implying that he plans on attacking Hark in the future. Totes.

He didn't imply it though. Also you're basically saying scumslips don't exist because scum would "totally" never scumslip. "Totally" makes sense

VOTE: malapascp

This feels like scum trying to pick apart posts and paint it as scummy.

My case is Hark's case explained by someone else, because I was dumbfounded that after seeing this (remember I read the whole thing in one sitting) everyone just shrugged it off, Hark replaced out and that was it

Also the posts I mentioned from Char are pretty much sequential. Also I don't know what you mean by "pick apart", but if I replace in and find fishy posts from 20 days ago I'm not going to ignore them just because everyone else did. It seems to me you don't want this issue to be brought back for whatever reason.

That is clearly not his reason at all. If he didn't want it brought back he wouldn't have even mentioned it. Most everyone who posted after you made that post either commented that they think you're wrong or moved on.
Tenshii just happened to be one of the people to say you're wrong, but also took it a step further to call it scummy. He's certainly not trying to bury it. If anything accusing you on that point is bringing the discussion out more.

[malpascp]

Unless you find a flaw on Hark's reasoning, it seems to me like Char was just faking his scumreads, which is a pretty obvious tell.

Where is Char faking his scumreads?

Voting for someone you think is newbtown

Everyone in this game is scumhunting, which makes your statement pointless. You read him as null-scum (for whatever reason, it was early game), then "incited" him to scumhunt more?

Nullscum is a totally jusified read, as you said, early game. And I fail to see why inciting a person to scumhunt (especially given the context) is scum indicative. If anything, it's "good person" indicative. Like how an SE/IC would encourage a Newbie to scumhunt.

It's the first time I see someone go "Dude I think you're scum so you should try getting reads I like so I don't think you're scum anymore, or else I'm going to get you lynched. And it's weird and seems scummy to me

Also the "later on" part just makes it seem like that's where you're focusing, and that Hark's alignment doesn't really weigh on you wanting him lynched or not.

Yep. Cuz scum!Charloux is totally gonna make a post implying that he plans on attacking Hark in the future. Totes.

He didn't imply it though. Also you're basically saying scumslips don't exist because scum would "totally" never scumslip. "Totally" makes sense

VOTE: malapascp

This feels like scum trying to pick apart posts and paint it as scummy.

My case is Hark's case explained by someone else, because I was dumbfounded that after seeing this (remember I read the whole thing in one sitting) everyone just shrugged it off, Hark replaced out and that was it

Also the posts I mentioned from Char are pretty much sequential. Also I don't know what you mean by "pick apart", but if I replace in and find fishy posts from 20 days ago I'm not going to ignore them just because everyone else did. It seems to me you don't want this issue to be brought back for whatever reason.

That is clearly not his reason at all. If he didn't want it brought back he wouldn't have even mentioned it. Most everyone who posted after you made that post either commented that they think you're wrong or moved on.
Tenshii just happened to be one of the people to say you're wrong, but also took it a step further to call it scummy. He's certainly not trying to bury it. If anything accusing you on that point is bringing the discussion out more.

Well he HAS to make a case on someone, someday, right? Just saying he's going out of his way to make a case that doesn't really make sense, and might be buddying my scummiest read.
Anyway I'd be mad if this was to be overlooked YET AGAIN.

[MariaR]

VOTE: Malp

I haven't seen a post I really enjoy from this guy and Tenshii summed up anything I would of said it would be me just rehashing a statement as my own.

Also down with blix

[Expedience]

I disagree thoroughly.

[MariaR]

you have the right to your own opinion

[Dunnstral]

Expedience is acting way different from when I saw him as town.

I can tell this is going to be a game where nobody votes my scumreads though (Blix, Kop)

[Firebringer]

Bah I'm a sheep!
VOTE: malp

How's the life of this game? Still hanging in there?

[malpascp]

Bah I'm a sheep!
VOTE: malp

How's the life of this game? Still hanging in there?

tbh it's kinda funny you perfectly described my wagon then proceeded to join it.

sup guys

[Firebringer]

I am honestly just waiting for day to finish because I don't particularly care for day one.

[malpascp]

ikr

cya in 47h59

[Firebringer]

Charizard always seems like low hanging fruit wagon too.
and your a null.

So like your better to flip for me.

[malpascp]

dafuq u talking about m8

[Firebringer]

Charloux = Charizard. Don't remember how he got that name.

[Dunnstral]

It was from that pick your power game

[malpascp]

Oh you mean the scum. I'm not gonna memorize his name since he's gonna get lynched today anyways lol

[Firebringer]

It was from that pick your power game

I remember when he got it, but I don't know now why he got it

[Io]

>Has no idea what this is about.

[Firebringer]

That's life in a nutshell for you.

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Blix900 is being prodded.

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