STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Not Chara]

i don't think staying off town wagons makes Snarky town when the town wagons were all lead by and largely comprised of town. did i misunderstand something?

[Not Chara]

her points are predicated on farside scum.
Titus, you have Cakez choices making it likely that one of me and RR is scum... but Snarky avoiding both of us in favout of farside is towny? i just, really do not see your points.
and magna, what does Fire's belief that Yume wouldn't be nightkilled have to do with him being scum?

[Not Chara]

Cerb: do you have opinions on mastin and Titus's individual VCA?

[Not Chara]

the point about Joyride doesn't make sense. it couldn't have been used for the Cluster event because it would only have lasted one day in the first place.

farside's claim doesn't contradict itself anywhere. and finally, this needs to stop. two conftown fighting over a wagon is not town cohesion. you both agree there is scum who didn't vote one of the top players in beachapalooza. we shouldn't be lynching anywhere but in there today.

[Not Chara]

VOTE: farside
Snarky won't belynched until she's dealt with.

mastin, we can lynch Snarky after farside uses her ability. fair?

my opinion is that there's an anti-town (more likely scum,) gem mixed in with the actual Crystal Gems. the genuine CGs are not against us, that i'm very confident about.

[Not Chara]

farside can win by herself, with points. but if she fails that, she wins with town.
there is no way i can imagine her as groupscum.

Cerb, i should also point out that i mentioned (as soon as the beachapalooza results were announced, before farside came online) that neither of us were confirmed town because it was possible for scum to fake a full town vote.

pedit: i'm not sure what you're asking? what do you mean 'affects'?

[Not Chara]

the above was in the hood, not in the main thread.

[Not Chara]

if Skybird is actually Connie, she's human.

Jasper (traitor) being a fake CG could be possible. as in, a CG being the fakeclaim for whoever is Jasper.

farside is Kevin, a human. definitely not a CG.

[Not Chara]

Titus, when i said 'i cannot imagine farside being groupscum' i meant i could not imagine lynchproof groupscum that can blow up alliances and strongarm half a lynch on her lonesome using points. all are provable.
but thanks for discrediting the thought i've put into reading farside since we began our alliance. it makes me feel fantastic.

[Not Chara]

Titus, do you think Rational and Farside are scum together?

no, setup spec is just another reason on the pile. i'm not advocating for third party death when we have so many scum to kill.
why would farside choose me to pocket? my voice alone isn't enough to stop her lynch, and i was townreading her

before

our alliance.

i didn't mean to say you were discrediting me. sorry. it felt like you were saying i hadn't been giving her claims critical thought. i think i was wrong.

[Not Chara]

Drixx: *whose idea it was to vote for it, not her.

[Not Chara]

actually, farside, i don't have too many problems with Rational's analysis here. i disagree with the end conclusion but the practice of looking at both sides of the issue isn't fence-sitting here so much as it looks like logical hunting practice.

Shiro: honestly, i have not seen much from you recently to bring my read up to a town one.

[Not Chara]

Fire/farside/skybird/rr***

forget associations, is this actually his scun lineup? i don't believe it could be. there are too many scumreads in the top voters for this team to be at all possible. it requires 6 scum plus Cakez.

[Not Chara]

Varsoon's first Steven Universe: 25 players, 6 scum

count again, i just said that scum lineup requires 7 scum.
and the traitor cooperating with thr scumteam. (and included in that 7)

[Not Chara]

farside, what i mean is it doesn't look like Rational is fence-sitting. that post is a very explicit 'farside is scum'.

[Not Chara]

farside, Rational also explained why they didn't want to vote you.

[Not Chara]

we didn't actually lose any time, if farside is telling the truth. farside's ability resets the day timer according to her.

[Not Chara]

VOTE: snarky

[Not Chara]

well, good news, Almost. c=
Snarky is scum regardless of those other reads.
DGB could be the traitor. i would lynch there too.

[Not Chara]

more when i have a quick minute.
McMenno, ally with mastin with me. i don't need to talk in an alliance anymore.
grapes, Firebringer, apologies to both of you.
mastin, if McMenno declines, i'll go with who you pick.

[Not Chara]

oh, it was just because i rejected your alliance offer. i didn't mean to be alarming! :>

[Not Chara]

grapes, Firebringer, apologies to both of you.

What goes around comes around.

what?

Also I am very upset with not chara.
So much so I have taken them of my friends list for this game.

Not chara you really hurt me.

=c
no Fire please, take me back. i can change. you've changed me.

(still allying with mastin. and McMenno?)

[Not Chara]

Fire, i'm changing my avatar when i get home. what expression should i pick this time?

[Not Chara]

nevermind.

[Not Chara]

i'd love to, Fire, but bente explicity asked i not use those Charas. they're a reference sheet for a project. but i have permission to use the others.
thank you for the suggestion. <3

[Not Chara]

final answer.
i'll save the other one for the dawn of the final day.

fuzzy, help us on Snarky. DGB can be eliminated another way/another day.

[Not Chara]

are you offering one?
i don't mind switching one more time before going to bed. :>

[Not Chara]

Spoiler: no, this one

[Not Chara]

i like your avatar. i don't remember her name, but i recognize the image.
and thank you Fire.

*blush*

goodnight. :>

[Not Chara]

Shiro, where did your hunting go?

[Not Chara]

well. i think Cerb knows Yume is Steven, that isn't in dispute.
his arguing about whether Steven's win condition is completely aligned with ours.

[Not Chara]

it was farside's ability. when she was lynched, her lynch was overturned and the votecount was reset.

[Not Chara]

let's flip Snarky.
i take a Snowman Piece. i take a Snowman Piece. i take a Snowman Piece.
oops, there's no snow left to take.

[Not Chara]

why does the DGB wagon have to be happening now that i want Snarky dead more?
oh well.

[Not Chara]

DGB isn't flipping earth-aligned. i can tell you that much.

at this point, i couldn't care less which is flipped. both are not town but for a few reasons Snarky is the better lynch for today.
town should want farside to use her points on a Snarky lynch, anyway.

[Not Chara]

let's not get into hypotheticals, and instead get our flip.

[Not Chara]

I'd lynch this in a heartbeat if snarky flips scum too.
Focus more on dgb flip and false conclusions.
Nevermind never explain those scum reads prior with rr/sky/firemyself.

When did dgb get into this scum read?

Lol. You aren't ever lynching me farscum ... keep up the bravado though!!!

DGB isn't really a scum read. If you weren't scum scrambling for any foothold you'd have noticed DGB is a compromise on my part based on confirmed Town Titus's suggestion.

I'd still lynch you immediately if I could get momentum going that direction.

"i'd lynch you if Snarky flips scum"
"you aren't even lynching me"
so... Snarky will flip scum, Magna? c=

[Not Chara]

"i'd lynch you if Snarky flips scum"
"you aren't even lynching me"
so... Snarky will flip scum, Magna? c=

Is your reading comprehension bad? I just said I'd lynch farside NOW over DGB if I was given the chance.

yes, i know. and before that, farside said to lynch you if Snarky flipped scum. to which you replied, "good luck lynching me, farscum", implying that Snarky would flip scum. since farside only said she would lynch you on the condition of Snarky flipping scum.

[Not Chara]

yes, i know. and before that, farside said to lynch you if Snarky flipped scum. to which you replied, "good luck lynching me, farscum", implying that Snarky would flip scum. since farside only said she would lynch you on the condition of Snarky flipping scum.

That's a pretty slanted reading I have to say given Farside has been floating a scum read on me since I've called her scum upon replacing in.

sure, sure.
i mean, you quoted her saying she'd lynch you if Snarky flipped scum, then said no, she wouldn't be able to lynch you...
but, surely you weren't responding directly to her then. my mistake.

i'm just saying. if it were me, i would have said something like, 'and who will you lynch if Snarky flips town?' or 'then i'll lynch you when Snarky flips town'.
instead, you ignored the 'if' case even though you responded to it. :>

pedit: Magna, Fuzzy's given his own views already. that post you quoted has the implicit declaration of 'DGB is scummier than farside' right there in it.

[Not Chara]

now now, of course i don't. it's just interesting you didn't mention Snarky in 8334. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Not Chara]

i don't think that's the definition of ad hominem.
actually, farside is claiming to be town who can achieve a third party win condition.

[Not Chara]

this is the weirdest scum fakeclaim i have ever seen. farside, pick a better one next time. you're making me look like a fool for being pocketed by you.

[Not Chara]

it's the entire claim being strange. her being Kevin has little to do with it.

[Not Chara]

c) DGB is town/not scum and farside thinks that might be the case based on her other scumreads?

[Not Chara]

basically, farside's claimed role is really strange as a mod-provided fakeclaim, so i don't think it's fake.
it's also weird if it's actually scum and she just made up the town --> third party aspect, because of the points. (and how her play so far makes a lot of sense when thinking of how many points she got from her weird plays)

fuzzy and i don't have differing opinions on farside's claim in the least.

[Not Chara]

i also don't think she screwed up her claim. she's been consistent throughout with its use and her explanations of how it works.

[Not Chara]

Skybird, i am seriously wondering if you're scum now.
the Cluster event activates on the Season Finale. we still have tonight for points.
everyone should attempt to add to those points if they can.
VOTE: DGB

confirming my upcoming alliance with mastin and McMenno.

[Not Chara]

i wish Farside had hammered Snarky before this.

[Not Chara]

i'm glad we didn't. there was no way farside was responsible for that Yume kill.

Magna: i think Firebringer's shock was genuine, considering how much he believe scum wouldn't do it. still, i see your point.
Skybird's is the worst.

[Not Chara]

it's a good thing i switched to the blushing avatar.

[Not Chara]

good game everyone! i confess i didn't completely follow after my flip, but i had a lot of fun with the game while alive and even while bubbled by the gems.

that bubbled PT contains some anger towards Rational... i'm not sure how much it was justified, but i'd like to think it was because they were scum that they made decisions i did not enjoy. still love to play with you two.

fantastic game Varsoon. i can't remember which thread this was discussed in, but making Peridot a scum third party instead of neutral would have been interesting and possibly helpful.

[Not Chara]

i haven't read the scum PT but, i assume i was killed due to being near-confirmed town?

[Not Chara]

between this game and Undertale, i'd really like to stop TvTing Titus. one day...

[Not Chara]

i agree with you Cerb, but what should have happened was using kraska's increase stress event. i'm not sure why/don't remember why i wasn't releases following that failure to trigger. i think the gems thought Snarky would be flipped? it's been a while.