Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[Ankamius]

@Ank

– why did you choose Pepto over Giga to drop your vote?

Usually when I do catchups, I record my thoughts down and try to piece them together before making any decisions on where my vote goes. It was different in this case because the post I specified with the vote pinged me much harder than any other vote up to that point.

[Not Chara]

Peregrine: if giga is right, it's not a town thing. the problem is because it isn't confirmed as even being role-related, and is related to a different player who would surely be town. it's messy, no need to out it right now. if it comes out later, that's the time to talk about it. essentially, i know what giga is talking about but they've made a lot of assumptions in moving from 'noticing the thing' to 'vote-parking SlySly'.
i'll say what i've been saying: now isn't really the time for flavour speculation.

Blade Dancer: i have to think about it. i don't have experience with 'tells' to look back at. it just seems incredibly arbitrary. if true, it suggests some kind of subconscious scum trait that is making jokes about gambler's fallacy indicating a player will be more likely to have rolled scum this game.

Magna: i really don't see Blade Dancer bussing. McMenno scum would mean Blade Dancer town.
you have a lot of experience with zakk? how are they as town?

[PeregrineV]

That was less exciting than I thought it would be.

Vote: SirCakez

Some of your early posts have really come of as manufactured.

@zakk

- The sum of your 166 was......nothing? I am surprised that nothing super great has appeared.

@NotChara-

Were you the self-proclaimed Understales expert? I'd like an opinion on 465.

What are your reads?

I don't know yet.

I have some that I will slight townlean for now, but not for reasons.

Don't think Giga is scum, but the incoming replacement can help with that read.

I thought early-game zakk was town, but recent zakk with mulit-posting, and multi-ball spec, and zero L-2 surprise, along with The flip on SirCakez makes me like him less.

I would lynch Noseferatu.

[McMenno]

where do you stand on peptoisbawl

[Creature]

Just wondering, how an ascetic miller works?

[McMenno]

like an ascetic except for event-like things I imagine

[Not Chara]

Nosferatu has a single post referencing Creature's signature and not much else. how does that make you want them lynched?
did zakk ever end up reaching L-2?

Creature: unclear. its existence could indicate an investigative role capable of bypassing ascetics.

[McMenno]

no, the peak of the wagon was at L-3 and then it dissolved

[PeregrineV]

Peregrine: if giga is right, it's not a town thing. the problem is because it isn't confirmed as even being role-related, and is related to a different player who would surely be town. it's messy, no need to out it right now. if it comes out later, that's the time to talk about it. essentially, i know what giga is talking about but they've made a lot of assumptions in moving from 'noticing the thing' to 'vote-parking SlySly'.
i'll say what i've been saying: now isn't really the time for flavour speculation.

If Giga is speculating that a role is highly likely scum due to flavor, but doesn't want to out it it for fear it's town, but is voting because of that flavor, then they obviously saw the flavor (as did you), and the result looks like Giga is actually trying to find scum as opposed to faking it. Meaning they are likely town.

We can save the flavor spec for later.

[Not Chara]

what i meant was if giga is right and Sly is scum because of that, it would indicate a

different

player is town. giga outed nearly all of their thought process, so i'm not sure if my vague language is helping. but eh.

[Ankamius]

PeregrineV looks town right now, but I'll be more sure either way later on.

[PeregrineV]

Nosferatu has a single post referencing Creature's signature and not much else. how does that make you want them lynched?

Where did he read Creature's signature? If he read that, then he had to have read more.

[Not Chara]

Nosferatu has a single post referencing Creature's signature and not much else. how does that make you want them lynched?

Where did he read Creature's signature? If he read that, then he had to have read more.

i don't know. what does this mean? Creature posted on the latest page where Nosferatu made their vote.
i just don't know how you're getting alignment indicative info here.

[PeregrineV]

where do you stand on peptoisbawl

Sly trying to interpret "grapevine" as "scum PT" is reaching SUPER HARD and reads like trying to build a case out of nothing. I would vote him, but i'm unsure of the count and i don't want to put him at L-1 in 5 seconds of starting.

Scummy.

It's a Balancing Act between my tendency to not want to go in unless I have something i can really slam someone with, and the need to stay active throughout the game.
Nevermind the fact that the site I usually play on treats D1 as 47.75 hours of shitposting followed by 15 minutes of panic voting. All of us over there are terribad at D1, myself included

Sounds like he doesn't want to shtipost, which is town.

The game relevent information is that whoever did that (516 is almost certainly a 3rd party, if it isn't the mod screwing with us.

If there is a thrid party, he might be it.

But otherwise, null for now.

[PeregrineV]

Nosferatu has a single post referencing Creature's signature and not much else. how does that make you want them lynched?

Where did he read Creature's signature? If he read that, then he had to have read more.

i don't know. what does this mean? Creature posted on the latest page where Nosferatu made their vote.
i just don't know how you're getting alignment indicative info here.

Page 13. Where House, Giga, Gamma, Slysly, Creature, SirCakez, and Pepto all also posted above Nos.

Creature was not the pagetop, nor the most recent post before his. So to read Creature signature, he had to have read.

[House]

House: you like zakk's post. but take issue with the lack of a vote?
semantics, Gamma is more scum and they're already voted.
but I wouldn't expect scum to push something so shaky to rekindle the zakk wagon, so... it's a genuine concern of yours?

He's a townread of mine, so I'm trying to get him off another townread of mine.

[House]

Back from V/LA and catching up. This thread is barely, if that, 48 hours old. If you have over 50 posts by the time I make this you are either scum looking to make this game unreadable or have no clue how bad spam posting is for Town.

Or maybe, just maybe, not everybody shares your opinion on how to play.

[Blade Dancer]

like an ascetic except for event-like things I imagine

Event like things? What are you talking about?

[House]

@Mod, please replace me out

Hey, I'm really sorry to do this but I really don't think this game is for me. Including this one, I'm currently /in for five different games and with the difficulty I'm having in real life I don't think I'm going to be able to keep up with all of them. Since I put the least investment in this one and I wasn't invited here, I'm going to start by dropping out of here. I planned on /outting pre-game but I thought I'd pull it together stick for the flavor. Turns out that was a bad idea, I'm just having a lot of difficulty getting a foothold on this game.

Just to drop off some final thoughts, nothing extraordinarily helpful since i never took notes for this game but:

I have no reason to state most of my townreads, most of my townreads have already found each other and are already working together. I don't get the scumreads of Not Chara though, I think it's pretty obviously town? It should be talked about more tbh. Accountant too because I'm seeing some of that sentiment around him too.

I don't really have any special scumreads to push. A lot of slots haven't posted yet, but I think Gamma is probably going to flip scum. The way he interacted with the Slysly wagon completely sheeping my reasoning and then jumped onto zakk is worth scrutiny.

Pepto feels like lynchbait to me and while he could possibly be scum, he might be better off lynched off of associations. He just feels strange and offbeat to me in a newbish way and I think people are overselling how scummy he actually is.

I still think that Slysly and Ank have scum/town parallel roles with really obvious flavor. If at some point the flavor talks about them absorbing souls or LOVE or stuff like that, one of them is probably flipping scum. I don't know if that fits into Skull's mod meta but I'm having difficulty seeing it any other way. I think NC knows what I'm getting at here so if my slot flips at any point and NC is still alive, I really think this is a necessary point of discussion. Slysly's cageyness about hammering vs. Ank's openness about claiming makes it clear to me which one is the town one, personally.

The way SlySly formulated his zakk "townlean" in thread was pretty awkward too and I think it's an associative tell. worth looking into after some flips.

If Blade Dancer is who I think they are and flips scum, the people they choose to push are like 100% town. I think this is their town game though.

But yeah, I'm really disappointed in myself for replacing out for my first time but I don't see myself being useful in this gamestate's future with the lack of effort I'll likely be putting in later if I were to stay. This was a pretty difficult decision to make, but it's better I do this now before replacements will struggle to catch up.

btw i haven't read the thread since like my last post so maybe the stuff i wrote in here isn't as relevant

actually i just read this post.

i'm sorry to see you go. it's probably for the best.

i like this post a lot. i'm sorry you feel this way.

i especially like this part:

I don't really have any special scumreads to push. A lot of slots haven't posted yet, but I think Gamma is probably going to flip scum. The way he interacted with the Slysly wagon completely sheeping my reasoning and then jumped onto zakk is worth scrutiny.

it feels legit

worth changing my vote actually

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

AAAHAHA
So you only read it later?
Nice job strengthening my scumread on you

Confbiasy post is confbiasy

[Blade Dancer]

@house,

What do you think of ultimately lynching Giga, Ank, Shiro, McMenno or Nosferatu today?

[House]

Why do you think GE is town?

~reasons~ isn't something I will accept.

That's all you get.

[House]

Why Pepto over zakk?

Why scum over town?

What's your win con again?

LOL thought you thought I was scum

I lost my scumread on you a while back, I was looking for something else.

[Not Chara]

like an ascetic except for event-like things I imagine

Event like things? What are you talking about?

ignore that one.

House: you like zakk's post. but take issue with the lack of a vote?
semantics, Gamma is more scum and they're already voted.
but I wouldn't expect scum to push something so shaky to rekindle the zakk wagon, so... it's a genuine concern of yours?

He's a townread of mine, so I'm trying to get him off another townread of mine.

hm, okay.

Nosferatu has a single post referencing Creature's signature and not much else. how does that make you want them lynched?

Where did he read Creature's signature? If he read that, then he had to have read more.

i don't know. what does this mean? Creature posted on the latest page where Nosferatu made their vote.
i just don't know how you're getting alignment indicative info here.

Page 13. Where House, Giga, Gamma, Slysly, Creature, SirCakez, and Pepto all also posted above Nos.

Creature was not the pagetop, nor the most recent post before his. So to read Creature signature, he had to have read.

going to stop discussing this until Nosferatu returns and responds.

[House]

House: you like zakk's post. but take issue with the lack of a vote?
semantics, Gamma is more scum and they're already voted.
but I wouldn't expect scum to push something so shaky to rekindle the zakk wagon, so... it's a genuine concern of yours?

I like this post

Ofc you would

I was calling him off your wagon in that post, brainpan.

[Blade Dancer]

@Not Chara,

I don't think I can.

McMenno is arguing that ascetic miller makes sense

because of event like things

. Even if there are no "events", it implies an unhealthy desire to protect Ankimaus.