Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:13 am

Yeah, all though the votes on him give no good indication on the scumminess of Pepto, I can see why he is scummy now.
VOTE: Pepto

PeregrineV · Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:14 am

In post 887, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 886, SirCakez wrote:Gamma where have you seen House's scum play?
I have not. I'm not diving into his giant game history without links.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=61337

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=5150

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:14 am

Accountant is welcomed to my Town pile for 961 even with what I assume to be a fake dayvig. Because he’s properly identified traits of zakk as scum in a Large game right there.

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In post 925, SlySly wrote:And I didn't even mention the popularly perceived scummy replace out with Pepto, another superior choice to the millers.

Is Pepto scum in your mind?

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In post 932, zakk wrote:also for those of you voting sircakez saying that it was my reasoning that helped you get to that point, you're probably full of shit

because all my posts 565 and 569 really did was show that cakez has a habit of suspecting me, and that his suspicion should be taken with a grain of salt

i didn't create a case for him to be scum, i didn't even say i had a scum read on him. i just said what he has done before, and as which alignment

So you are now floating that 565 was a tricksy trap and you never intended for it to be an indication that you thought Sir Cakez was scum?

In post 935, zakk wrote:accountant on the other hand, you can scumread. he's playing this game like andrius (and like house, though house always does it) where he tries to pretend he holds more sway than he actually does, and it's ringing reaaaal hollow. i can see through that shit hella fast. i've just been waiting to call it out until he wasn't voting me any more and it wouldn't look like conf-biasy omgus (and then he got into that OMGUS argument with gamma emerald and my face started literally hurting with rage at how stupid they are being)

Yeah this is bad. Scum reads based on the kind of crap bravado that is a hallmark of all zakk games thus he should know it is not alignment indicative? And also giving House a pass for meta while not even wondering if Accountant plays that way all the time? Finally we get the “I was worried about being labelled as OMGUSing” bit.

Are you bussing Pepto?

House · Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:17 am

In post 1001, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 887, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 886, SirCakez wrote:Gamma where have you seen House's scum play?
I have not. I'm not diving into his giant game history without links.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=61337

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=5150

How dare you leave out my Magnum Opus?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=68502

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:18 am

In post 1003, House wrote:
In post 1001, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 887, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 886, SirCakez wrote:Gamma where have you seen House's scum play?
I have not. I'm not diving into his giant game history without links.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=61337

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=5150
How dare you leave out my Magnum Opus?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=68502

HOW COULD I FORGET YOU WERE IN BIOLOGY

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:21 am

In post 988, Gamma Emerald wrote:I wanted your read for a personal tell, Magna.

Ask me if I care about your personal tell Gamma … or if you can deduce the obvious answer don’t.

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In post 995, Not Chara wrote:Magna: so, you misreading Nahdia means every person who read them correctly is scum. they're that scummy.
whiteknighting is not a claim you can make unless you can point to where i've drawn conclusions about giga's alignment where they couldn't exist. you've not.

Nice reaction. Can you point to where I said everyone who reads them correctly is scum? Nope you can’t. I have chosen you for your ISO specifically in conjunction with your declaration that "Giga's replace out is Town" which isn't a reasonable conclusion from an uniformed viewpoint. Funny that you are also trying to explain to me the ‘rules’ of hunting scum …

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In post 998, massive wrote:That's a misrep. I said that on page 20-something, and never said anything about not reading pages going forward (as should be obvious since I caught this). If you guys generate thirty pages in the opening two days of a thread, ninety percent of that is going to be useless. It's much better for me to start forming my opinions at page 20-something, where you guys are all actually contributing content.

Disagree completely in that I think Giga showed tons of alignment indicative posting in the first 20 pages and just skipping that not very Town oriented play.

House · Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:22 am

In post 1004, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1003, House wrote:
In post 1001, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 887, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 886, SirCakez wrote:Gamma where have you seen House's scum play?
I have not. I'm not diving into his giant game history without links.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=61337

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=5150
How dare you leave out my Magnum Opus?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=68502
HOW COULD I FORGET YOU WERE IN BIOLOGY

Idk. You weren't?

Accountant · Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:23 am

In post 979, House wrote:
In post 978, Accountant wrote:Before we proceed, how many games have you played with Nahdia?
Enough to know she's one of the better players on the site.

Can someone who has more game experience with Nahdia and House confirm or disconfirm House's claim that he's never scumread by town D1 and/or that Nahdia is savvy enough to not scumread him as town D1?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:25 am

Scum!House looks a lot like Town!House.

House · Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:26 am

In post 1007, Accountant wrote:
In post 979, House wrote:
In post 978, Accountant wrote:Before we proceed, how many games have you played with Nahdia?
Enough to know she's one of the better players on the site.
Can someone who has more game experience with Nahdia and House confirm or disconfirm House's claim that he's never scumread by town D1 and/or that Nahdia is savvy enough to not scumread him as town D1?

Cakez can do that, considering he's the one that told me I'm pretty obvtown when I'm town.

PeregrineV · Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:27 am

In post 909, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hm
You know what, Nahdia has done some good recovery, and has shifted to a moderate townread.
VOTE: Creature
Same reasons as before.

Can you quantify that "good recovery"?

House · Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:27 am

In post 1008, Gamma Emerald wrote:Scum!House looks a lot like Town!House.

There are noticeable differences between the two.

Not pointing them out if you can't find them because it'd hurt my scum game. There's a reason I seal my mafia chats.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:27 am

In post 1010, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 909, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hm
You know what, Nahdia has done some good recovery, and has shifted to a moderate townread.
VOTE: Creature
Same reasons as before.

Can you quantify that "good recovery"?

Moderate-heavy scumread > moderate townread
However I'm rethinking this.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:29 am

In post 1011, House wrote:There's a reason I seal my mafia chats.

LAAAAME

I like seeing what scum was planning the entire time.

Not Chara · Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:29 am

VOTE: Gamma
ignore my earlier insanity. back soon.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:39 am

what

FOS: Not Chara

McMenno · Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:39 am

hey I get you have the ego of a small sun but it ain't impossible for town to scumread you, weirdly enough

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:41 am

In post 1016, McMenno wrote:hey I get you have the ego of a small sun but it ain't impossible for town to scumread you, weirdly enough

She unvoted me, didn't post for a while, and then voted me again.
I read somewhere that that quick vote flip-flop is a scumtell, but I can't find the article.

PeregrineV · Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:42 am

In post 1007, Accountant wrote:
In post 979, House wrote:
In post 978, Accountant wrote:Before we proceed, how many games have you played with Nahdia?
Enough to know she's one of the better players on the site.
Can someone who has more game experience with Nahdia and House confirm or disconfirm House's claim that he's never scumread by town D1 and/or that Nahdia is savvy enough to not scumread him as town D1?

Wow, this sounds like a lot of work to answer a question. What is the question? What will the answer tell you?

I almost want to parse this question as an intellectual exercise.

Almost.

Accountant · Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:43 am

House is making a case on Nahdia that's built solely on meta. I'm asking if anyone can confirm this meta.

PeregrineV · Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:45 am

In post 1012, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1010, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 909, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hm
You know what, Nahdia has done some good recovery, and has shifted to a moderate townread.
VOTE: Creature
Same reasons as before.

Can you quantify that "good recovery"?
Moderate-heavy scumread > moderate townread
However I'm rethinking this.

If you go back and read Giga as town-Giga, then Nahdhia's replace in was kind of yuck!

If you go back and read Giga as scum Giga, then the replace in was downright scummy.

So, I'm kind of wondering what posts or what they said that caused the shift to a townread.

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:46 am

In post 1019, Accountant wrote:House is making a case on Nahdia that's built solely on meta. I'm asking if anyone can confirm this meta.

It's an impossible exercise since House stated it as "no-one with any sense scum reads me" which is ego driven bollocks.

So it is probably best to ignore the statement as chest puffing.

Not Chara · Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:48 am

who is this 'she' you speak of?
Gamma, you aren't going to get very far with textbook tells. i'm not even sure that is one. you have to look at intent.

you might actually be town for the lack of noticing how you've been flipping votes yourself. from Nahdia onto pepto because they 'redeemed the slot', then pepto even though you disagree with the way the votes on the wagon happened.

shouldn't it make you pause and think if those voting pepto didn't give good reasons?

House · Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:50 am

In post 1016, McMenno wrote:hey I get you have the ego of a small sun but it ain't impossible for town to scumread you, weirdly enough

Small?

That's crazy talk.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:50 am

In post 1022, Not Chara wrote:who is this 'she' you speak of?
Gamma, you aren't going to get very far with textbook tells. i'm not even sure that is one. you have to look at intent.

you might actually be town for the lack of noticing how you've been flipping votes yourself. from Nahdia onto pepto because they 'redeemed the slot', then pepto even though you disagree with the way the votes on the wagon happened.

shouldn't it make you pause and think if those voting pepto didn't give good reasons?

The vote posts didn't give good reasons, but I saw evidence that pointed to Pepto scum anyway.
Just because a wagon was poorly formed doesn't mean it's full of scum.
My wagon however...