Application of WOTC

[Frozen Angel]

I wil consult with a listmod about the thing that just happened.

its not in my territory to judge that

[Yume]

the ruin part and if she doesn't know how to play is fixable over time

over how much time? Shes had enough time already and her attitude has not changed one bit

^

Frozen, she sent me a PM threatening to destroy Cowboy bebop if I didn't back off!

pm me that please

Yume claimed your lieing

My fault, misinterpretation.

She threatened to break site rules.

That's so much better, innit?

If you weren't such a stubborn mule, I wouldn't have needed to. >.>

[Yume]

You said I ruin games and I wasn't going to stand by and let you continue without defending myself!

[House]

You said I ruin games and I wasn't going to stand by and let you continue without defending myself!

You do, there is no defense.

[Wisdom]

FA youre a reasonable person
stop defending people who just dont deserve your defense

[Frozen Angel]

the ruin part and if she doesn't know how to play is fixable over time

over how much time? Shes had enough time already and her attitude has not changed one bit

I'm definitely not defending her

I'm attacking you guys for the way your attacking her

[Firebringer]

So Frozen is chainsawing for her partner?

[Yume]

You said I ruin games and I wasn't going to stand by and let you continue without defending myself!

You do, there is no defense.

Stop being stubborn dammit. >.>

[Frozen Angel]

I didn't say I'm attacking you for attacking her!

I said I'm attacking you for the way your attacking her you ....

[Yume]

Besides, from what FA told me, you're mad at me for one game. I can bring many

finished

games to topple that one game too. You're delusional, bub.

[Wisdom]

I'm definitely not defending her

I'm attacking you guys for the way your attacking her

Why? The attacks on her are reasonable. She's been given time and solutions and her gameplay and general attitude remains exactly the same: it's always others who are at fault, for tunneling, for ruining games, for thinking they are gods, etc etc. I don't see how this is going to change even if we wait a thousand years.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm definitely not defending her

I'm attacking you guys for the way your attacking her

Why? The attacks on her are reasonable. She's been given time and solutions and her gameplay and general attitude remains exactly the same: it's always others who are at fault, for tunneling, for ruining games, for thinking they are gods, etc etc. I don't see how this is going to change even if we wait a thousand years.

let me grab my herbal tea and I will answer you

[Yume]

I'm definitely not defending her

I'm attacking you guys for the way your attacking her

Why? The attacks on her are reasonable. She's been given time and solutions and her gameplay and general attitude remains exactly the same: it's always others who are at fault, for tunneling, for ruining games, for thinking they are gods, etc etc. I don't see how this is going to change even if we wait a thousand years.

Tell me: did we lose Symphonic Metal Mafia and Mini 620 because of me or because you and Kuroi tunneled? Tell the truth and only the truth, and no dodging the question or turning it around onto an attack on me.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm definitely not defending her

I'm attacking you guys for the way your attacking her

Why? The attacks on her are reasonable. She's been given time and solutions and her gameplay and general attitude remains exactly the same: it's always others who are at fault, for tunneling, for ruining games, for thinking they are gods, etc etc. I don't see how this is going to change even if we wait a thousand years.

First I'm going to fix what you said : "The critcs about her play are reasonable" and yes she's been given time and solutions to get better in this and she failed to reach that certain acceptable level so I do agree that she must be restricted /enforced/punished now and its reasonable to not take her words and wotming her. Have I ever said anything against that?

shouting this in public over and over and claiming she can't fix herself is the part which is wrong. Thats the part your getting judgmental and illogical. She can very much change as she is a human being and she has the right to has a way for doing that. The point is there is a limit for this as well - I agree with this part. when someone gets site baned their getting restricted and thrown out. when someone is perma banned that means they don't deserve another chance for the huge errors they did. Rules can judge. Listmods and the people who are the community judges can completly perma ban people based on a certain protocloe but thats not something you as a user in this site can request. Judging is absoloutly wrong. spescially when its not about her mistakes but her capaboloty for fixing them in future.

[Wisdom]

Because the town, in general, including me, Jake, and you, was bad.

That doesn't change your performance and attitude in that game was unbearable.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm definitely not defending her

I'm attacking you guys for the way your attacking her

Why? The attacks on her are reasonable. She's been given time and solutions and her gameplay and general attitude remains exactly the same: it's always others who are at fault, for tunneling, for ruining games, for thinking they are gods, etc etc. I don't see how this is going to change even if we wait a thousand years.

Tell me: did we lose Symphonic Metal Mafia and Mini 620 because of me or because you and Kuroi tunneled? Tell the truth and only the truth, and no dodging the question or turning it around onto an attack on me.

don't bring this circular fight again please. all the members in a team loose and wins together , thats the meaing of teamplay. You all made mistakes and you should try to learn you were responsible for the loose as much as others.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm really tired atm and I will leave ms

will be back in an hour or two to continue this discussion if anything was regarded to me

[Yume]

Because the town, in general, including me, Jake, and you, was bad.

That doesn't change your performance and attitude in that game was unbearable.

And yours was better?

Sorry FA, but I can't honor that request. They treat me as a devil when they're just as bad themselves.

[Frozen Angel]

Because the town, in general, including me, Jake, and you, was bad.

That doesn't change your performance and attitude in that game was unbearable.

And yours was better?

Sorry FA, but I can't honor that request. They treat me as a devil when they're just as bad themselves.

see?! your saying they are just "as bad" so you agree you made some errors as well!

Thats the first step for improving. Isolate yourself and detect those errors! ignore the rest.

[Accountant]

the ruin part and if she doesn't know how to play is fixable over time

over how much time? Shes had enough time already and her attitude has not changed one bit

^

Frozen, she sent me a PM threatening to destroy Cowboy bebop if I didn't back off!

is this true

[House]

the ruin part and if she doesn't know how to play is fixable over time

over how much time? Shes had enough time already and her attitude has not changed one bit

^

Frozen, she sent me a PM threatening to destroy Cowboy bebop if I didn't back off!

is this true

Keep reading, a correction was made.

[Yume]

Yes. That doesn't, however, excuse them from calling me 'trash' via PM.

[House]

Yes. That doesn't, however, excuse them from calling me 'trash' via PM.

AFTER THE FACT.

[Wisdom]

see?! your saying they are just "as bad" so you agree you made some errors as well!

Thats the first step for improving. Isolate yourself and detect those errors! ignore the rest.

no it really isn't, it's just deflection

[Frozen Angel]

see?! your saying they are just "as bad" so you agree you made some errors as well!

Thats the first step for improving. Isolate yourself and detect those errors! ignore the rest.

no it really isn't, it's just deflection

what?

deflection from what