Open 656- Tit For Tat - Endgame

[Harkonnen97]

21 specifically. What's your opinion on hark?

other than him being extremely handsome

[NJAC]

@Mod: V/LA through the weekend.

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.02

Lynching

With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

alban

(L-3): FancyPants, Sgz13, GammaEmerald, Fire Assassin

eagerSnake

(L-5): NJAC, Kop

Kop

(L-4): eagerSnake, Yuria, persephone325

FireAssassin

(L-6): alban

Yuria

(L-6): texcat

NJAC

(L-6): Harkonnen97

Not Voting

(1): Sgz13

Mod notes: Hi, I'm the backup mod! FancyPants and NJAC are V/LA until Monday. Fire Assassin is the new Campion.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-10-26 10:00:00)

[Plotinus]

alban¹ and persephone325¹ have been prodded. They have (expired on 2016-10-17 07:00:00) to post or they will be replaced.

[Kop]

21 specifically. What's your opinion on hark?

I understand some posts can look towny, and give off vibes. But I wouldn't stretch it as far as saying someone is town because there posts seem towny, especially early in the game. I just wanted to see what Hark meant by his statement, and how he perceived his views of what a towny post is.

I haven't encountered Hark a great deal on here, but right now he's in the null pile.

[alban]

Four votes against me already
No valid explanation behind these votes.
So I am assuming these are all RV (except FancyPants since you are urging others to vote for me).
Not gonna defend self unless at L-1 or someone has a more specific/valid question.

[Sgz13]

I'm voting and not voting at the same time. This is known as Sgz's cat.

I guess I'll wait for alban to be on L-1 to think about if I want to unvote or not then.

[persephone325]

UNVOTE: Kop

Kop seems reasonable and logical, at least in my opinion. For my new vote, I'm in between FancyPants and Hark because I just find it odd that Fancy voted for Alban for his vote against Campion because he said it was a random vote. (Hope that made sense? lol) Isn't that what this vote is supposed to be? And Hark was immediately like "Oh, Fancy must be town."

That's my feelings on one little thing, though.

[Harkonnen97]

do u think that weird = scum ?

[Yuria]

Four votes against me already
No valid explanation behind these votes.
So I am assuming these are all RV (except FancyPants since you are urging others to vote for me).
Not gonna defend self unless at L-1 or someone has a more specific/valid question.

VOTE: alban who's scum then?

[Yuria]

21 specifically. What's your opinion on hark?

I understand some posts can look towny, and give off vibes. But I wouldn't stretch it as far as saying someone is town because there posts seem towny, especially early in the game. I just wanted to see what Hark meant by his statement, and how he perceived his views of what a towny post is.

I haven't encountered Hark a great deal on here, but right now he's in the null pile.

did his answer mean anything to you?

[texcat]

VOTE: FancyPants
It was odd that Hark called him town off one or two posts. But even odder to me that Fancy didn't question it.

Also I'm not wild about FireAssasin's entry and leap onto the Alban wagon without anything else. But I'm willing to give him another post.

[Harkonnen97]

It was odd that Hark called him town off one or two posts. But even odder to me that Fancy didn't question it.

first of all - no, it wasnt odd that he didnt question my townread
second of all - do u think that odd = scum?

[Harkonnen97]

townreading yuria too BTW

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: FancyPants
It was odd that Hark called him town off one or two posts. But even odder to me that Fancy didn't question it.

Also I'm not wild about FireAssasin's entry and leap onto the Alban wagon without anything else. But I'm willing to give him another post.

Agreed. This wagon is better.
VOTE: FancyPants

[persephone325]

do u think that weird = scum ?

Possibly. It also seems like you're "townreading" people who vote for Alban. Like you just did with Yuria. And I don't get that.

[Harkonnen97]

It also seems like you're "townreading" people who vote for Alban.

just a coincidence :^)

[FancyPants]

Back from my VLA.

VOTE: FancyPants
It was odd that Hark called him town off one or two posts. But even odder to me that Fancy didn't question it.

Also I'm not wild about FireAssasin's entry and leap onto the Alban wagon without anything else. But I'm willing to give him another post.

Is it my responsibility to question everyone who town reads me? Sounds exhausting and a watse of time, especially since I know he's right.

Now do I give him town cred for town reading me? Not at all, scum can town read just as easily, town reading someone is pretty NAI, at least until the bigger picture is revealed.

As for Alban, did a quick Meta recap on all his RVS votes, turns out he only contributed to the RVS on one other occasion here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=66377
Where he does explicitly state the vote is an RVS vote. That said he also was scum so...

Probably worth keeping the vote here for now.

@Gamma, explain 89 please?
@Alban, why do you feel the need to explicitly state RVS vote?

[texcat]

Is it my responsibility to question everyone who town reads me? Sounds exhausting and a watse of time, especially since I know he's right.

Now do I give him town cred for town reading me? Not at all, scum can town read just as easily, town reading someone is pretty NAI, at least until the bigger picture is revealed.

If you are town, it is your responsibility to scum hunt. I think that questioning town reads is a good way to do that. I might agree that town reading someone is pretty NAI, but think that's why it's important to try to see why the town read. The motive and thoughts and reasoning behind the town read are more likely AI.

[texcat]

It was odd that Hark called him town off one or two posts. But even odder to me that Fancy didn't question it.

first of all - no, it wasnt odd that he didnt question my townread
second of all - do u think that odd = scum?

Perhaps odd is a rather inexact word. I meant that it was not normally what I would expect a town person to do. And I do note that does not mean that it is what I would expect a scum to do.

[FancyPants]

Is it my responsibility to question everyone who town reads me? Sounds exhausting and a watse of time, especially since I know he's right.

Now do I give him town cred for town reading me? Not at all, scum can town read just as easily, town reading someone is pretty NAI, at least until the bigger picture is revealed.

If you are town, it is your responsibility to scum hunt. I think that questioning town reads is a good way to do that. I might agree that town reading someone is pretty NAI, but think that's why it's important to try to see why the town read. The motive and thoughts and reasoning behind the town read are more likely AI.

Essentially you're voting for me because I'm failing to scum hunt in the exact way you'd like me to, correct?

Seems pretty weak.

If Alban is town I'm liking Gamma or Texcat for scum. If they know alban is town they are looking for a reason to not be on that wagon, if alban is scum that doesn't apply however. I don't think Alban's buddies would so obviously try to divert his wagon.

[Fire Assassin]

I would say prod dodge, but there isn't alot of content for me to dodge.

First off.
Fancy Pants is town.
Eager Snake is town.

Small scum leans on Texcat and Yuria.

[Harkonnen97]

If you are town, it is your responsibility to scum hunt. I think that questioning town reads is a good way to do that.

why didnt

you

question my townread then? following ur own logic, wouldn't town!texcat do that?

[Kop]

21 specifically. What's your opinion on hark?

I understand some posts can look towny, and give off vibes. But I wouldn't stretch it as far as saying someone is town because there posts seem towny, especially early in the game. I just wanted to see what Hark meant by his statement, and how he perceived his views of what a towny post is.

I haven't encountered Hark a great deal on here, but right now he's in the null pile.

did his answer mean anything to you?

I can agree with his answer to the question, because tone of posts can give away town impressions.

I wouldn't go as far as saying it that early though, especially during RVS.

[The_Jester]

Mine