STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[kraskaesque]

I WANNA PLAY LUCHA

[Titus]

We didn't get notification, vote count, or planning. That's a scum event designed to take out myself or Mastina.

I think all lies need to come into the open.

Also, DGB's alliances do need to be tracked. For Farside to be scum, dgb needs to be in communication with scum. Easiest is d3 with TWIE but if Mastina was allied only with McMenno...then that changes things. I had done a significant amount of analysis based on that lie.

[Reasonably Rational]

We didn't get notification, vote count, or planning. That's a scum event designed to take out myself or Mastina.

I think all lies need to come into the open.

Also, DGB's alliances do need to be tracked. For Farside to be scum, dgb needs to be in communication with scum. Easiest is d3 with TWIE but if Mastina was allied only with McMenno...then that changes things. I had done a significant amount of analysis based on that lie.

That idea that it was meant to take out yourself or mastina is obviously wrong, because given that it needs votes, they would have had to convince their allies to vote for you or mastina, which they obviously wouldn't do.

I'm like 99% that the event didn't come from either faction, scum or gems. Too easy to basically gain 100% lynch control(depending on what the lynch threshold was) by organizing it in advance.

So yeah. Pretty damn sure it just came from some random town slot.

-Cerb

[Titus]

Disagree. Scum were NOT going to lynch us with the event. Stress went to negative 6 because of a no lynch. That effect is pro scum. The lack of claiming or organizing is pro scum. The lack of vote revelations is pro scum.

That event was designed to lower stress to make us vulnerable.

[McMenno]

Farside, to me this is part of the problem with Day 0 as it were. Some people won't participate since the game technically hasn't started. Others shit post and don't do much. Not sure there is much we can do about it right now.

Want to talk about things in the thread so far? You are feeling pretty town to me.

is this how scum talks to a buddy?

[Titus]

Farside, to me this is part of the problem with Day 0 as it were. Some people won't participate since the game technically hasn't started. Others shit post and don't do much. Not sure there is much we can do about it right now.

Want to talk about things in the thread so far? You are feeling pretty town to me.

is this how scum talks to a buddy?

Can be. That's null.

[Reasonably Rational]

Disagree. Scum were NOT going to lynch us with the event. Stress went to negative 6 because of a no lynch. That effect is pro scum. The lack of claiming or organizing is pro scum. The lack of vote revelations is pro scum.

That event was designed to lower stress to make us vulnerable.

Got it. We need more info. It's perfectly possible that whoever used the event knows how all the votes went, and set it as a trap for scum to see who said one thing to their allies and ended up actually voting another way. In addition...with the delay in flips, a drop to -4 stress AT DAY START doesn't make sense as a way of making certain slots vulnerable, if scum expected their kill to work.

-Cerb

[kraskaesque]

dear friends
i can tamper with the stress and increase it by 4
should i ?

[McMenno]

skybrid interactions with farside look good for farside

I was able to get caught up with the long night/locked thread phase. I see there is an order for claiming who we voted for in the BP event, so I won't reveal my vote right now. I did get an alliance with Xkfyu. Still not sure what his alignment is.

Can I see your reads then?

Here's what I have so far. I'm still ISOing people trying to figure some of them out. That's the group at the bottom still "in process".

Town

Titus – confirmed town
Mastin – very nearly confirmed town
Yume – very nearly confirmed town

Near Town

RR – His interactions show me that he is trying to solve the game. Also the Hydra dissonance. I feel this shows that both heads are active and trying to solve the game.
TheFuzzylogic99 – Based on Math’s read since Math flipped town.
Almost50
Grapes

Null

Kraskaeaque
Xkfyu – I wanted to have a PT with him to better sort him. Part of why I am leaning scum on him is his claim he made in our PT. He’s also making no attempt to sort my alignment. I am not seeing anything in the thread that makes me think he’s town. But I have other input from Steven indicating that he is town. So I'm not sure which way to go here.

Almost Scum

Farside – I felt she was town in our PT. The things putting her here instead of the next level up is the stubbornness and game play like blowing up the Joy Ride and the weird claim. I’m not opposed to lynching her but would rather lynch from my scum pool right now.

Scum Pool

DGB – no attempts to figure the game out and weird claims/gambits.
TWIE – Haven’t seen much from him (if anything). I know this is the way that TWIE normally is, but by now I would expect to start seeing some insights into players.
Snarkysnowman

Still Processing

Shadow Step
Shiro
Not Chara
MagnaofIllusion
McMenno
Creature
Randomidget
Firebringer

this may be worth analyzing

@shadow_step @xkfyu I would like a post-by-post recap of what happened in your respective alliance pts with skybird

[McMenno]

dear friends
i can tamper with the stress and increase it by 4
should i ?

more stress is better right?

[kraskaesque]

i guess
unless im missing sth
which is why im asking...to check

[Reasonably Rational]

More stress is good and bed.

I'd hold off on using it, but make sure that stress wasn't at -4 when we go into the night phase.

Like talk to varsoon and set up a trigger that at L-1 or L-2 you use that power.
-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

Actually wait.

We still have an NC flip we haven't seen.

If that flip is a town one and will happen at end of day, then stress will be -3 as we go into night. There might be no reason for you to use your stress increasing power kraska.

@gems(MoI, specifically, since you've been directly outed): Do you know the alignment of the flips you're delaying?

-Cerb

[Shadow_step]

VOTE: Snarky

Gg

[Shadow_step]

dear friends
i can tamper with the stress and increase it by 4
should i ?

Yes please.

[Titus]

I want more information.

[Titus]

Specifically, I need to hear from Mastina. I think the flips would be shocking to her and let's not be hasty.

[Titus]

VOTE: Snarky

Gg

Why?

[kraskaesque]

VOTE: Snarky

Gg

this a guilty?

[Shadow_step]

I'd love to say yes but no.
I've looked at his iso over and over, esp day 1, only initially does he give a reason to vote SC which is meh. Then switches to farside and his vote later on looks like a bus.

@XK you mind explaining this? I'm only good at catching scum not good at getting town to agree with me lol

[Reasonably Rational]

@farside: how many points do you have now?

-Cerb

[Titus]

I'd love to say yes but no.
I've looked at his iso over and over, esp day 1, only initially does he give a reason to vote SC which is meh. Then switches to farside and his vote later on looks like a bus.

@XK you mind explaining this? I'm only good at catching scum not good at getting town to agree with me lol

Who were you aligned with day 2? If we're supposing Farside bussing, we need to establish 7 scum or not.

If only town are loved, we can merely test if Farside is town or scum.

[Shadow_step]

Grapes I think

[Titus]

Grapes I think

Please list all alliances you have been in. I know I am being anal, but I think does not cut it.

[Shadow_step]

Skybird, grapes, nobodinho, creature/Xk