Mini 1834: Biker Wars: Blood in the Streets (Game over!)

[Parama]

i went out to get groceries and thought of a question worth asking while i was out.

eager:

i know your actions failed the past two nights but i'm wondering, who did you target? i'm wondering if the sk is ascetic like in the 42p role madness game that just finished, it would make sense with how much power the town has

also to clarify:
i take personal offense to people saying i'm not scumhunting, especially as town, because i put my all into the games i play and being called "lazy" like that is insulting and objectively untrue. i've been as transparent with my reads as i could possibly be and the only person whose iso i haven't looked into at some point or other in this game is snarky's, which, well, there's nothing to see there

[farside22]

That's a whole lot of batching from 2 players I'm scum reading.
I mean really I flip town and then what reads will those 2 be chasing?
Who here even believes Parama reads rach as scum with all those agreements they have about me.
Talk about fake reads.

[Parama]

honestly the sk is more a poe between my townreads. eager is tracker and his report was basically impossible to fake, and aristo even confirmed it, so he's not sk. and ckd is just blatantly obvious town to me, it's not impossible he's sk but it's unoikely. so that leaves UT and rach, and i can see sk motivation in rach's posting more than UT's, but i haven't looked especially deeply into either of them yet and my opinion could change. maybe i'll do this if this day drags on too long but honestly atm i'm too exhausted for that.
i definitely don't read rach as mafia though, and have never insinuated as such.
you scumreading me and rach isn't an argument in of itself by the way, please stop treating it as one.
why the hell am i even responding to you.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

farside22 (2): Parama, RachMarie
Not voting (4): curiouskarmadog, eagerSnake, farside22, Untrod Tripod

With

6

players alive, it takes

4

votes to lynch a player.

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2016-10-22 22:55:51).

Subject: Mini 1834: Biker Wars: Blood in the Streets (Day 4)

@Mod: could a lone mafia member perform both their factional kill and their role action? (for example, roleblocker)

Yes.

@mod does a doc protect come before the kills in this setup?

It would defeat the purpose of a doctor if it didn't, now wouldn't it?

[Parama]

mod why didn't you answer the question when i asked it

[farside22]

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mod: if there is a sk and mafia in lylo with a townie, who wins?

.

[StrangerCoug]

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mod: if there is a sk and mafia in lylo with a townie, who wins?

.

Depends

[farside22]

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mod: if there is a sk and mafia in lylo with a townie, who wins?

.

Depends

[farside22]

Para and ckd are my strongest town reads.

Snake is making me a bit paranoid why block him and not nk him especially since the doc died? Though the death of the doc looked more like a SK since it was stabbing? Need to go look at the other deaths to make sure its not some flavor thingy.

Far has more balls than I do double bussing her scum budz though.

VOTE: Far

I already explained I screwed up thinking we were on deadline because I was trying to catch up, even though being sick and all, and I was under deadline in another game and that is all I am going to say because game is still ongoing.

Actually had TWO on deadline, the other one is finished and I believe I posted it already the 42 player role madness game where I screwed up even worse by voting because someone said they were the SK and that ticked me off so I voted without thinking, after a couple of glasses of Merlot.

Still irked at myself over that, but then I never figured an outed Mason that was confirmed by the deaths of the other two Masons, would live to a 4 player MYLO in a 42 player game either. And I had been outted since day friggin ONE too.

And yeah Para I am noticing that too, its like nothing about Gear just about her and her reading you and I must be scumz.

Meanwhile Gear is like pushing the broken record of why are you even thinking of voting for Far (someone he has pushed a light scum read on himself), and saying I am scum for it.

In regards to rach her whole scum read is would far double bus, never answered by anyone, to just voting for that reason, never explaining her scum read once.

Even her town read on para is manufactured. I read that iso and that is no where near what this game is like.

[Parama]

you can't keep casting such wide nets as "everything he says is fake" or "everything she says is manufactured" or "he isn't scumhunting" and have people take you seriously. that's lazy. like, legitimately lazy. go away, scum. go lynch yourself.

[Parama]

also thinking about it what the hell is the point of the question in 1432?
i literally can think of no reason why town would care about the answer to this question. the only people who care are the mafia and the sk. it's a town loss regardless of which one wins.
why would you ask this as town.

oh, right. you aren't town. duh.

[curiouskarmadog]

also thinking about it what the hell is the point of the question in 1432?
i literally can think of no reason why town would care about the answer to this question. the only people who care are the mafia and the sk. it's a town loss regardless of which one wins.
why would you ask this as town.

oh, right. you aren't town. duh.

if she was an SK or the mafia, she would have asked the question to the mod in a PM and not out in the open.

if you think she is either of the above, she would be asking the question (out loud) to look town...

I was curious about the same thing, am I scum too?

[curiouskarmadog]

farside, who is scum and why are you not voting them?

UT, it is time for you to do something...who is scum and why?

[Parama]

well curious is in your username
but yes, she could be asking questions out loud to try and look town, not realizing how stupid that particular question is for town to ask.
because it is.

ckd, farside, why were you curious about this? why does it matter to you?

[curiouskarmadog]

no one has asked (for everybody "having me" in their town category, I find this strange) but here is where I am at.

VOTE COUNT

farside22 (2): Parama, RachMarie
Not voting (4): curiouskarmadog, eagerSnake, farside22, Untrod Tripod

With

6

players alive, it takes

4

votes to lynch a player.

The Grey kill....I think this points directly at farside...OR Parama trying to set up farside. I think this recent anger from Parama could easily be (but maybe not) scum frustrated that we are not following his lead on his farside (mis?)lynch. I think as scum, he feels this "case" is a slam dunk, and it is baffling him why it is not getting traction today.

on farside, her play has been bad this game (sorry hon). I dont think she is mafia (even though some thing indicate she is). she could be the SK.

Rach. seems opportunistic. she literally convinced me yesterday to NOT VOTE farside, but she was setting up the "if Gear is not scum, I will join you getting farside tomorrow" thing...and looky at this..here we are. She was a non entity Day 1., same with Day 2. She only started playing Day 3 and lead an attack on town. she hasnt down ANYTHING in this game that is protown.

UT, a lurker. I fucking lurker. could be town..could be mafia ...could be the SK. No matter what you are in this game, I am disappointed in you on the verge of anger. especially if you slip some brand of scum. if you are scum and you win this game...fuck you. this will be placed in my already full ammunition bag of why I want to lynch lurkers.

the only (confirmed-ish) player is Snake, who also fucking sucks with his "this in my case and I am deliberately leaving shit out, because it contradicts my case" bullshit. ON BY THE WAY, Gear was town....so fuck that noise. This slot could be a mafia gambit (doubtful).


so that is why I havent voted. I literally can see everyone as some brand of scum. I am not voting Snake today.

so the pool at this point is far, parama, rach, and UT.

given the current voting....I am pretty sure at least one scum is between rach and parama.

[curiouskarmadog]

ckd, farside, why were you curious about this? why does it matter to you?

because, I wanted to form an argument FOR scum why they should be more worried about each other at this point. but also, I was just curious how the mod would handle it.

why are you NOT curious about it?

[Parama]

it's been baffling me for four goddamn game days why a farside wagon hasn't gained any traction considering she's spent most of days 1, 3, and 4 being scum as hell. day 2 was the only thing that gave me any doubts and i've long since gotten over those.

p-edit: because it's a loss for me either way.

[curiouskarmadog]

it's been baffling me for four goddamn game days why a farside wagon hasn't gained any traction considering she's spent most of days 1, 3, and 4 being scum as hell. day 2 was the only thing that gave me any doubts and i've long since gotten over those.

p-edit: because it's a loss for me either way.

it is?

[curiouskarmadog]

I mean, I could explain..why it wouldnt be...but that isnt really protown.

[RachMarie]

I was not active day 1 because I was not active much of anywhere I was on V/LA for quite a period there.

And yes i was wrong about gear. Do you think if I were really the last remaining scum or the sk for that matter I would actually be that ballsy to push for a lynch on gear when far was set up nicely to be lynched? I did it because I genuinely believed gear was scum the wagon analysis said he was scum. And I wanted to eliminate the maf team first then go after the sk.

Now does it make sense?

But since I was wrong on gear, and the other wagon was far, it makes more sense to go back there. She is probably the sk but we need another non townie lynch or we are going to be screwed as a town. Especially with her wanting to know if the sk and scum can do a joint win.

We need to stop lynching townies and get the last scum and the sk,

[curiouskarmadog]

lol

funny thought, Farside is the SK and Parama is the last mafia. that makes their Day 1 interactions fucking hilarious.

[Parama]

the context of farside's question helps, but it very specifically was asking which of mafia/sk would win in 3-way lylo. or if both would. there's no room for a town win in the question's wording or context.

mod: if there is a sk and mafia in lylo with a townie, who wins?

I just experienced in princess bride the worst mod decision I ever seen where scum/sk got a joint win.

[RachMarie]

uggh ckd I hope not, that would mean I am wrong about yet another read.

[curiouskarmadog]

I was not active day 1 because I was not active much of anywhere I was on V/LA for quite a period there.

And yes i was wrong about gear. Do you think if I were really the last remaining scum or the sk for that matter I would actually be that ballsy to push for a lynch on gear when far was set up nicely to be lynched? I did it because I genuinely believed gear was scum the wagon analysis said he was scum. And I wanted to eliminate the maf team first then go after the sk.

Now does it make sense?

But since I was wrong on gear, and the other wagon was far, it makes more sense to go back there. She is probably the sk but we need another non townie lynch or we are going to be screwed as a town. Especially with her wanting to know if the sk and scum can do a joint win.

We need to stop lynching townies and get the last scum and the sk,

(shrug)

that is why I am not voting you (at the moment). You laid the ground work to lynch farside today after Gear, did you not?

[RachMarie]

yes because I thought gear was the final scum and far was the sk

at this point having helped lynch a fellow townie I don't care anymore about protocol I want whichever one we can get lynched the final scum bucket or the sk

hence I am pushing far.