Mini 1837: Family Mafia (GAME OVER)

[UpTooLate]

Vote Count 3.05

Ranmaru - [1] Camn
Elyse - [1] Ranmaru
Dramonic - [2] Nachomamma8, House
Camn -
SirCakez -
House -
gigabyteTroubadour -
Nachomamma8 - [2] Elyse, SirCakez

Not Voting - [2] Dramonic, gigabyteTroubadour

With

8

alive it takes

5

to lynch!

Mod Notes - Pagetops are a great way to start the morning! Happy Monday!

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2016-10-29 13:25:43).

[Elyse]

VOTE: giga

I actually think this is the best play today

[House]

House, thoughts on Elyse?

Overall underwhelmed.

Nacho has made some good points. I wouldn't cry if she was wagoned too claim, but I'm not voting there until I can read the game closer.

What is your high opinion of me from anyway?

Like I'm flattered and all but I'm muuuuuch better as scum than town.

FFX AU, you called out the entire scum team like, day 2 or something iirc.

Been a minute, but the impression stuck.

[camn]

Look Ranmaru is doing exactly what kraska did

Exactly.

And good morning, lovelies!
I need you all to know.. last night the I went into a trance, my third eye opened and I saw all of Ranmaru's post writ in red.
I need to reread them to try and clarify... Which I will try and do soon. First coffee.

[Elyse]

FFX AU?

[House]

FFX AU?

How many times are we going to have the same conversation?

[House]

Simple Complexity I think it was. Keep mixing those up

[Elyse]

Idr but ok

[Nachomamma8]

You're missing a key point here. kraska's push DID begin to drive my wagon toward a lynch.

Kraska's push didn't do jack shit. Kraska voted you on page 17, the wagon continued to stall for the next 10 pages. Postie voted on page 27. SpyreX voted soon after. Zito joined after that. Those three people were who drive your wagon towards a lynch, not kraska.

I think next you go into how kraska gave me the support I needed, blah blah blah: why would kraska support her scum buddy on a push that wasn't working? Wouldn't that just make her look worse when one of me/you flipped? It's not like I was in danger and kraska bailed me out; she supported me on a push that had been failing the entirety of the day.

[Nachomamma8]

I actually planned on gunning for camn today but your vote on me was worse than what she's done.

Did you really expect me to drop my suspicion on you because kraska was scum? Do you think that town Nacho who had been convinced you were scum all day would see scum soft-pushing you for a while and go "welp guess I was wrong on Elyse all along"...? The only way I'm changing my read on you is if you look town or I see compelling interactions; I already talked to giga about what those are exactly.

[Nachomamma8]

So if I were to flip scum, how would this make her look good? I'd expect a scumbuddy looking to distance to have some solid, original reasoning of their own but not push it too hard.

This assumes optimal scum play.
I already gave a scum motivation for what kraska did. I don't believe that scum always distance with original reasoning and find this argument ridiculous in general.

[Nachomamma8]

I also have a sneaking suspicion you keeping scumreading me and not voting me because you know should I flip town, you're donezo. But me, I'm willing to face the music if I'm somehow wrong about you.

If you are getting lynched I am on your wagon.
If you flip town there is no way people are going to go "look Nacho didn't vote her though" and give me a pass.

This argument doesn't come close to making any sense unless you've never heard of suspecting someone without voting them before.

[Nachomamma8]

And if you haven't, I'm suspecting you. I'm not voting you. You are my top suspect. I'm not voting you.

[Nachomamma8]

And I'm sorry for my frustrated tone towards you; it's not your fault. It's mostly just tedious interacting with you when I know no one is paying any attention to what we're saying.

[camn]

I am paying very close attention.

[Nachomamma8]

How's that coffee going?

[House]

And if you haven't, I'm suspecting you. I'm not voting you. You are my top suspect. I'm not voting you.

I loled.

[camn]

How's that coffee going?

It turned into booze accidentally.

[dramonic]

been pretty disconnected from the game, busy with a million other things, but

I'm pretty sure we'll net one/two scum within camn, elyse and giga. Nacho doesn't really feel like scum to me?
I'd like to see a sober post out of camn in the near future, cuz that ranmaru scumread is ridunculous
Ran (I think it was), mason aren't investigative. Knowing one person as conftown isnt an investigation, especially when they're lovers anyways. Also whatever you're trying to get out of Cakez you should stop that. There's no reason to extract more than we already have.

vote: Elyse

gonna reread and get back into gear (or into gear period, depends on perspective)

[camn]

I have somewhat of a plan, dram.
Ranmaru is scum.
I'm undecided on Elyse.

[dramonic]

We're reading different games.

[camn]

Are we? Our scumlist is strikingly similar.
Mine is Giga/Ranmaru/Elyse.
Yours is Giga/MYSELF/Elyse.

[dramonic]

I cant really imagine Ran being scum here.

[camn]

Ok.. I found what rang my bell last night.

I think my play does make sense today when I didn't consider Cakes being a tracker.

This.
A) throwing shade at Cakez is priceless. He pulled a guilty in a previously pretty unsuspected scumzor. That pretty much earns you a free ride to LYLO if you are scum... Or a nightkill if you are town. Why go after Cakez now? Because a mislynch of the proven PR is tight.
AlsoB) the wording.
"

I think my play does make sense

"
this is a scum mindset. This is Ranmaru doing self-meta in real time, trying to make sure that everything is perceived the right way. Real Townies don't care about consistency.

[UpTooLate]

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