Open 655: Fire and Ice Mafia OVER

[Lowell]

VOTE: flubber

LOLHAMMER! Hell yeah!

For the record I agree with the slithering point, particularly since flub made a point about how he doesn't see the case on me. But really, LOLHAMMER WOOO!

[Lowell]

I'm hammer, right?

[Firebringer]

I am very sure you did

[Flubbernugget]

I wasn't joking

Scum cases now

Gogogogogogogogogo

[Lowell]

If you flip yourself maybe.

[Io]

I turn around for a minute and everything happened.

[Flubbernugget]

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME

[Io]

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME

What are you even talking about? You're not making any sense.

[Transcend]

VC 2.2

Flubbernugget

LYNCHED

(6) Firebringer, Not_Mafia, Creature, Dunnstral, MariaR, Lowell
Lowell

L-4

(2) Io, Flubbernugget
Charloux

L-6

(0)
Creature

L-6

(0)
Dunnstral

L-6

(0)
Firebringer

L-6

(0)
Io

L-6

(0)
malpascp

L-6

(0)
MariaR

L-6

(0)
Not_Mafia

L-6

(0)

No Lynch

L-6

(0)

Not Voting (2) Charloux, malpascp

With 10 alive, it requires six (6) votes to achieve a lynch!

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-10-29 18:00:00)

[Transcend]

Uncertain

Flubber

who is he?

Well Map Wolf, let's find out. Flubbernugget has been lynched and was a(n)..

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

Please send in night actions. Deadline is in (expired on 2016-10-20 02:00:00)

[Transcend]

Good morning! 7 of you are alive, which means tonight we lost 2 more people. Who were they???

Dunnstral has been

BURNED

on Night 2. He was a(n)...

Spoiler:

Ice Goon

malpascp has been

FROZEN

on Night 2. He was a(n)...

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

[Transcend]

Good luck!

VC 3.0

Charloux

L-4

(0)
Creature

L-4

(0)
Firebringer

L-4

(0)
Io

L-4

(0)
Lowell

L-4

(0)
MariaR

L-4

(0)
Not_Mafia

L-4

(0)

No Lynch

L-4

(0)

Not Voting (7) Charloux, Creature, Firebringer, Io, Lowell, MariaR, Not_Mafia

With 7 alive, it requires four (4) votes to achieve a lynch!

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-11-03 02:00:00)

[Creature]

Toooold you.

[Creature]

Now we have two associatives to work with.

[malpascp]

Snipped. No posting after death.

[Io]

VOTE: Lowell

Can we just kill him now? Seriously I'm now like 99.9% sure he's the fire goon especially with Dunn burned and him pushing Lowell heavily.

[Io]

Putting this out here now since it seams that the logic is scum will scum hunt so don't trust people scumhunting. No that's just wrong. Just because it's multiball doesn't devalue the value of scumhunting as a town tell. This is because even outside of multiball scum will "scumhunt" but it wont be sincere. The same logic would still apply here as scum are still scum hunting just more than they would do outside of multiball. The point is that scum will be not as genuine with their scumhunting so shrugging of a player scumhunting as NAI is not reasonable.

In multiball it's considerably less likely (source: I made it up) that scum will bus each other; because they generally have less members and there's another scum faction

So don't expect bussing, but keep in mind that someone who got one faction lynched can be the other faction

Though this post does pretty much clear Lowell as being Ice.

[Lowell]

Nothing good has ever come from people saying "I'm like 99% sure..." of anything.

Settle down. It's a new day, let's have a detente.

FYI I no longer think Io is scum. If she were, there's no way she would kill someone other than me two nights in a row. I also don't think it's creature.

VOTE: maria

I'm now like 99% sure she's scum.

[Firebringer]

I was hard townreading Dunn...that flip surprised me.
Going to rebook at game tomorrow.

[Creature]

So it's currently 5:1:1, even if it doesn't look like, we're in a good spot:

Always calculate the number of players left in each faction.
5:1:1
4:1:1
3:1:1
If the game is currently in one of these states, you can aim to get scum without straight out losing (note that you'll have to find the other scum too).

When it's 2:1:1, one town member should volunteer to get lynched:
- Scum won't volunteer because then they'd auto-lose.
- If scum doesn't vote, he basically outed his identity to the other scum.
- With a town lynch, we'd go night to 1:1:1

1:1:1
If it's day, aim to nolynch. If one scum tries to push your lynch so both scum can tie, vote him. If scum are aware they'll be voted if they do it, they'll avoid doing it so they don't lose.
Scum are going to be stuck in a dilemma:
- If both scum decides to kill the other, town wins.
- If both scum decides to kill the town, the townie won't die.
- If one scum decides to kill the other while the other decides to kill the town, then one of them will win. But I find it unlikely one scum will target the town when it's basically handing the other scum the win.
- If scum keeps no killing, keep nolynching. "Happily ever after" draw is better than a loss.

[Creature]

Actually, I think it's better to nolynch during 3:1:1.

[Charloux]

Why am i still alive... *exhales*
I have an exam tomorrow, so i will try to catch up afterwards. The thing that piques my interest the most atm was that lol-hammer by lowell.
@Lowell:What were you thinking about, when you hammered?

[Io]

I'm ok my phone now but will be on a computer in a little bit, but to put this out now I also suspect Char is the Ice goon after malp was frozen as they were pretty hard pushing Char and I can see Dunn attempting to try and protect Char since he was making it clear early on that Mafia would be trying to keep each other alive.

[MariaR]

I haven't been really been doing much in this game but I don't understand how you can scumread me mostly cause I've only been doing filler posts but feel free to make a case on me I guess.

[Lowell]

So it's currently 5:1:1, even if it doesn't look like, we're in a good spot:

Always calculate the number of players left in each faction.
5:1:1
4:1:1
3:1:1
If the game is currently in one of these states, you can aim to get scum without straight out losing (note that you'll have to find the other scum too).

When it's 2:1:1, one town member should volunteer to get lynched:
- Scum won't volunteer because then they'd auto-lose.
- If scum doesn't vote, he basically outed his identity to the other scum.
- With a town lynch, we'd go night to 1:1:1

1:1:1
If it's day, aim to nolynch. If one scum tries to push your lynch so both scum can tie, vote him. If scum are aware they'll be voted if they do it, they'll avoid doing it so they don't lose.
Scum are going to be stuck in a dilemma:
- If both scum decides to kill the other, town wins.
- If both scum decides to kill the town, the townie won't die.
- If one scum decides to kill the other while the other decides to kill the town, then one of them will win. But I find it unlikely one scum will target the town when it's basically handing the other scum the win.
- If scum keeps no killing, keep nolynching. "Happily ever after" draw is better than a loss.

I spoke too soon about creature. I think we need to talk about his scummy metaing. What possible purpose does this serve other than to look town without doing anything? "Look at how I'm saying 'we' when referring to town, guys!"