STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

Titus · Post Post #9050 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:44 pm

In post 9048, mastin2 wrote:
In post 9044, Titus wrote:Because a) they are scum with TWIE
Doesn't matter.
If the guilty is legit, then scum bus TWIE.
Period.
Thinking otherwise is thinking in first-level play and you should ABSOLUTELY not be that naive, Titus.

People are lurking because SnarkySnowman is scum, you're defending him and actively shitting on my plan to prove TWIE's alignment.
Gee, look at what I did to your words.

Now tell me, is that statement any less valid?

...Exactly.

If the guilty is accurate and scum cannot afford to lose the body, the 100% resist, if someone (you) gives them an out to do so. I don't deal in first level second level verbiage. I deal with what makes sense, is open and honest.

Because you're the one ignoring evidence to make noise how you're right while ignoring evidence and shading what doesn't fit your narrative of Farside being a wounded puppy.

mastin2 · Post Post #9051 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:46 pm

In post 9045, Titus wrote:My damn speciality is looking at groups and making coherent stories.

As a fellow storyteller.
Let me give you a critique:
You say you make coherent stories.

Sure aint showing them!

In post 9046, Titus wrote:Do you have absolute proof of who the NK was night 1?

No, but we do have TWIE's claim that he made Skybird's result accurate, and that would indicate scum tried to kill grapes. Grapes was already a strong townread, so there's little incentive for scum to try and lie/clear grapes. Ergo, regardless of whether TWIE's town or scum, it is very likely his result on Skybird is accurate.

Also, what does getting confirmation grapes was the N1 nightkill actually tell us?

Do you have an answer for that?

mastin2 · Post Post #9052 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:48 pm

In post 9049, Titus wrote:If you think Yume was screaming that Skybird was Connie, that she did not tell Skybird the gem information, that's insane.

If you know the gems as you say you do and hold that Skybird was going to townread them, then you're the insane one. Read her list again. Pay attention to the gems.

Skybird has 5 buddies (Cakez, DGB, doe, doe2 and doe3).

DGB does not count as a buddy because there was no confirmation she was scum.

Scumreading buddies but needing to sort is great for endgame when confirmed town won't shut up about lynching town.

Problem: what happens when you're called upon to follow through on your scumreads?

Titus · Post Post #9053 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:51 pm

In post 9051, mastin2 wrote:
In post 9045, Titus wrote:My damn speciality is looking at groups and making coherent stories.
As a fellow storyteller.
Let me give you a critique:
You say you make coherent stories.

Sure aint showing them!

In post 9046, Titus wrote:Do you have absolute proof of who the NK was night 1?
No, but we do have TWIE's claim that he made Skybird's result accurate, and that would indicate scum tried to kill grapes. Grapes was already a strong townread, so there's little incentive for scum to try and lie/clear grapes. Ergo, regardless of whether TWIE's town or scum, it is very likely his result on Skybird is accurate.

Also, what does getting confirmation grapes was the N1 nightkill actually tell us?

Do you have an answer for that?

Let's be frank here. TWIE's claim means shit. You would need an explanation for why and how Grapes survived given he's not a bulletproof. That's directly trying to sell you Farside town, but let's say you followed this line of hogwash TWIE sold to it's conclusion, you would have a totally necessary different scumread.

Titus · Post Post #9054 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:52 pm

In post 9052, mastin2 wrote:
In post 9049, Titus wrote:If you think Yume was screaming that Skybird was Connie, that she did not tell Skybird the gem information, that's insane.
If you know the gems as you say you do and hold that Skybird was going to townread them, then you're the insane one. Read her list again. Pay attention to the gems.

Skybird has 5 buddies (Cakez, DGB, doe, doe2 and doe3).
DGB does not count as a buddy because there was no confirmation she was scum.

Scumreading buddies but needing to sort is great for endgame when confirmed town won't shut up about lynching town.
Problem: what happens when you're called upon to follow through on your scumreads?

Yes there was, the moment she claimed traitor.

The gems were in still sorting.

mastin2 · Post Post #9055 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:58 pm

In post 9050, Titus wrote:If the guilty is accurate and scum cannot afford to lose the body, they 100% resist

Can't be more wrong there.

Scum, knowing the guilty is accurate, and knowing the source comes from

confirmed town

, will not resist.
Look at TWIE! The person the damn guilty is on! Did he deny it? No, not in the least. He said, basically immediately, "oh must be a gunsmith".
He quite literally went, "Why am I being lynched?" to "Guilty, huh? Must be gunsmith". He didn't ask who it was from first. He didn't deny it, saying, "must be wrong".

He flat-out said it was accurate

. THEN, and only THEN, did he ask who got it. It's right there in his iso: 8818 has him assume gunsmith. The LATER post, 8820, is him asking for the source.

If TWIE were scum, I'd expect it to be the other way around. And if he were scum, his first instinct would probably not be, "oh yeah that result is accurate, just wrong". If scum acted the way you said. And if TWIE were one of them. TWIE would be looking for an out. But he's made no effort to give himself one. (SnarkySnowman doesn't count, because SnarkySnowman's ability is a PROVEN ABILITY and therefore not something he is making up.) Quite the opposite! He's set very specific parameters.

I deal with what makes sense, is open and honest.

Apparently not.
Because you're not factoring in that scum are

inherently

bus-happy.

Tell me I'm wrong!
Tell me,

especially with the flips we have

, that the scum have not been bussing a lot.
Your talking's delayed my VCA to do so myself, but go do it on your own, and look me in the face, I'm daring you, to say to my face with that VCA, "The scum haven't been bus-happy".

But they have been.
And if TWIE were scum, there'd be nothing stopping them from being bus-happy again.

Titus · Post Post #9056 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:00 pm

In post 9055, mastin2 wrote:
In post 9050, Titus wrote:If the guilty is accurate and scum cannot afford to lose the body, they 100% resist
Can't be more wrong there.

Scum, knowing the guilty is accurate, and knowing the source comes from
confirmed town
, will not resist.
Look at TWIE! The person the damn guilty is on! Did he deny it? No, not in the least. He said, basically immediately, "oh must be a gunsmith".
He quite literally went, "Why am I being lynched?" to "Guilty, huh? Must be gunsmith". He didn't ask who it was from first. He didn't deny it, saying, "must be wrong".
He flat-out said it was accurate
. THEN, and only THEN, did he ask who got it. It's right there in his iso: 8818 has him assume gunsmith. The LATER post, 8820, is him asking for the source.

If TWIE were scum, I'd expect it to be the other way around. And if he were scum, his first instinct would probably not be, "oh yeah that result is accurate, just wrong". If scum acted the way you said. And if TWIE were one of them. TWIE would be looking for an out. But he's made no effort to give himself one. (SnarkySnowman doesn't count, because SnarkySnowman's ability is a PROVEN ABILITY and therefore not something he is making up.) Quite the opposite! He's set very specific parameters.

I deal with what makes sense, is open and honest.
Apparently not.
Because you're not factoring in that scum are
inherently
bus-happy.

Tell me I'm wrong!
Tell me,
especially with the flips we have
, that the scum have not been bussing a lot.
Your talking's delayed my VCA to do so myself, but go do it on your own, and look me in the face, I'm daring you, to say to my face with that VCA, "The scum haven't been bus-happy".

But they have been.
And if TWIE were scum, there'd be nothing stopping them from being bus-happy again.

I don't know what vote counts you're seeing but each and every scum lynch has been hard faught for with scum standing in the way.

mastin2 · Post Post #9057 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:03 pm

In post 9054, Titus wrote:Yes there was, the moment she claimed traitor.

And the scum wouldn't know for sure she actually was one. No more than the town would.

The gems were in still sorting.

Yes. Exactly. Still sorting. Not town.

Skybird did not know the crystal gems in all likelihood. (Which actually makes me feel much better about them actually.)

mastin2 · Post Post #9058 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:05 pm

In post 9056, Titus wrote:I don't know what vote counts you're seeing but each and every scum lynch has been hard faught for with scum standing in the way.

Do tell.

Because VCA preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetty much shows otherwise.

It's DWTS right now (you actually made me miss the opener, not to mention, my dinner), so no proof. I didn't get Skybird's iso finished, yet alone Varsoon's. But when you've shut up, I've responded to everything, and DWTS is over, I'll show it.

Titus · Post Post #9059 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:09 pm

In post 9058, mastin2 wrote:
In post 9056, Titus wrote:I don't know what vote counts you're seeing but each and every scum lynch has been hard faught for with scum standing in the way.
Do tell.

Because VCA preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetty much shows otherwise.

It's DWTS right now (you actually made me miss the opener, not to mention, my dinner), so no proof. I didn't get Skybird's iso finished, yet alone Varsoon's. But when you've shut up, I've responded to everything, and DWTS is over, I'll show it.

Great, then we'll color the vote counts and show it.

But for now, pretty sure given no one healed grapes and grapes wasn't BP, that should be all the evidence there.

I am watching the voice and eating dinner now.

Titus · Post Post #9060 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:17 pm

Spoiler: Selected Vote Counts

In post 2000, Varsoon wrote:
"I thought we agreed there was no Slinker, and we weren't going to call it 'The Slinker'."

-Amethyst

"Yes we did. But now it's undeniable the creature exists, and that Steven's name stuck."

-Garnet,
Reformed

VOTECOUNT 1.09

Not Chara (6):
grapes, Skybird, Yume, Almost50, Kraskaeaque

Reasonably Rational (4):
McMenno, DrippingGoofball, mastin2, Farside22

McMenno (3):
CooLDoG, SirCakez, Seraphim

Klingoncelt (2):
Firebringer, Obi-Wan Kenobi

Almost50 (2):
Shiro, Creature

SirCakez (1):
Not Chara

Creature (1):
Xkfyu

Farside22 (1):
SnarkySnowman

Not Voting (6):
Klingoncelt, Foxbird, Reasonably Rational, killthestory, randomidget, TheWayItEnds

With 25 Alive, it takes 13 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-09-21 15:10:00)

The Current Stress is -1:

In post 2200, Varsoon wrote:
"Well, what do you want? Just tell me and I'll do that!"

-Amethyst,
Reformed

VOTECOUNT 1.10

SirCakez (5):
Not Chara, Yume, mastin2, Obi-Wan Kenobi, McMenno

Not Chara (3):
grapes, Skybird, Kraskaeaque

Reasonably Rational (3):
DrippingGoofball, Farside22, Firebringer

McMenno (3):
CooLDoG, SirCakez, Seraphim

Almost50 (2):
Shiro, Creature

Creature (2):
Xkfyu, Almost50

Farside22 (1):
SnarkySnowman

Not Voting (6):
Klingoncelt, Foxbird, Reasonably Rational, killthestory, randomidget, TheWayItEnds

With 25 Alive, it takes 13 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-09-21 15:10:00)

The Current Stress is -1:

In post 2275, Varsoon wrote:
"This is an Ancient Sky Arena, Connie, where some of the first battles for Earth took place. It was here that I became familiar with the human concept of being a knight, completely dedicated to a person and a cause. This is what you must become, Connie; brave, selfless, loyal... a knight!"

-Pearl,
Sworn to the Sword

VOTECOUNT 1.11

SirCakez (5):
Not Chara, Yume, mastin2, Obi-Wan Kenobi, McMenno

McMenno (3):
CooLDoG, SirCakez, Seraphim

Not Chara (2):
grapes, Kraskaeaque

Reasonably Rational (2):
DrippingGoofball, Firebringer

Almost50 (2):
Shiro, Creature

Creature (2):
Xkfyu, Almost50

Shiro (2):
Farside22, Skybird

Farside22 (1):
SnarkySnowman

Not Voting (6):
Klingoncelt, Foxbird, Reasonably Rational, killthestory, randomidget, TheWayItEnds

With 25 Alive, it takes 13 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-09-21 15:10:00)

The Current Stress is -1:

I've got work today from noon to 6, so don't expect a VC until after that.

In post 2525, Varsoon wrote:
"Deep down, I know that I'm just a human—"

-Connie

"--but you know that you can draw your sword and fight."

-Pearl,
Sworn to the Sword

VOTECOUNT 1.12

SirCakez (7):
Not Chara, mastin2, Obi-Wan Kenobi, McMenno, Yume, grapes, Shiro

Shiro (4):
Farside22, Skybird, Almost50

Skybird (2):
killthestory, Creature

McMenno (2):
CooLDoG, Seraphim

Not Chara (1):
Kraskaeaque

Creature (1):
Xkfyu

Obi-Wan Kenobi (1):
SirCakez

Klingoncelt (1)
Firebringer

Farside22 (1):
SnarkySnowman

Not Voting (6):
Klingoncelt, Foxbird, Reasonably Rational, randomidget, TheWayItEnds, DrippingGoofball

With 25 Alive, it takes 13 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-09-21 15:10:00)

The Current Stress is -1:

To be clear:
In general, an Event that is beneficial to town will lower the Stress.
In general, an Event that is bad for town will increase the Stress.
Negative (or lower) Stress is reflective of town doing well, but it also tends to enable anti-town abilities and events.
Positive (or higher) Stress is reflective of town doing poorly, but it also tends to enable pro-town abilities and events.
The Scum Team's Factional Events tend to be anti-town Events that require low stress.
The Scum Team's personal Events tend to be pro-town Events that require high stress and are tied to their fakeclaim.
Not every Event will change the stress meter. If an Event does, it will be detailed in that Event's description.

In post 2725, Varsoon wrote:
"Back during the war, Pearl took pride in risking her destruction for your mother.
She put Rose Quartz over everything; over logic, over consequence, over her own life."

-Garnet,
Sworn to the Sword

VOTECOUNT 1.13

SirCakez (10):
Not Chara, mastin2, Obi-Wan Kenobi, McMenno, Yume, grapes, Shiro, Firebringer, Reasonably Rational, SnarkySnowman

Shiro (4):
Farside22, Skybird, Almost50

Firebringer (2):
Klingoncelt

McMenno (2):
CooLDoG, Seraphim

Skybird (1):
Creature

Not Chara (1):
Kraskaeaque

Creature (1):
Xkfyu

Obi-Wan Kenobi (1):
SirCakez

Farside22 (1):
killthestory

Not Voting (4):
Foxbird, randomidget, TheWayItEnds, DrippingGoofball

With 25 Alive, it takes 13 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-09-21 15:10:00)

The Current Stress is -1:

I am currently searching for a replacement for Seraphim.

In post 3161, Varsoon wrote:
"Beach City, a sleepy seaside town. From far away, it looks ordinary, but take a closer look, and you'll start to notice the cracks in the facade."

-Ronaldo,
Rising Tides, Crashing Skies

VOTECOUNT 1.14

SirCakez (10):
Not Chara, mastin2, Obi-Wan Kenobi, McMenno, grapes, Shiro, Xkfyu, SnarkySnowman, Yume, Kraskaeaque

Farside22 (3):
killthestory, Firebringer, Almost50

Shiro (2):
Farside22, Skybird

Firebringer (2):
Klingoncelt

McMenno (2):
CooLDoG, Thefuzzylogic99

Obi-Wan Kenobi (1):
SirCakez

Not Voting (6):
Foxbird, randomidget, TheWayItEnds, DrippingGoofball, Creature, Reasonably Rational

With 25 Alive, it takes 13 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-09-21 15:10:00)

The Current Stress is -1:

Peridot @Peridot5xg tweeted:C’mon already! Can we please lynch someone?!!!!!!1

In post 3162, Varsoon wrote:
"You can't make up drama this good!"

-Ronaldo,
Rising Tides, Crashing Skies

VOTECOUNT 1.15

SirCakez (12):
Not Chara, mastin2, Obi-Wan Kenobi, McMenno, grapes, Shiro, Xkfyu, SnarkySnowman, Yume, Kraskaeaque, Klingoncelt

Farside22 (3):
killthestory, Firebringer, Almost50

Shiro (2):
Farside22, Skybird

McMenno (2):
CooLDoG, Thefuzzylogic99

Obi-Wan Kenobi (1):
SirCakez

Not Voting (6):
Foxbird, randomidget, TheWayItEnds, DrippingGoofball, Creature, Reasonably Rational

With 25 Alive, it takes 13 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-09-21 15:10:00)

The Current Stress is -1:

Peridot @Peridot5xg tweeted:Let's get dat stress level up too!

In post 3223, Varsoon wrote:
" But all the monsters just come here to get you guys, and then wreck things and put us in danger! Beach City would be way safer if you guys weren't here!"

-Ronaldo,
Rising Tides, Crashing Skies

VOTECOUNT 1.16 : LYNCH!

SirCakez (LYNCH):
Not Chara, mastin2, Obi-Wan Kenobi, McMenno, grapes, Shiro, Xkfyu, SnarkySnowman, Yume, Kraskaeaque, Klingoncelt, Reasonably Rational

Farside22 (3):
killthestory, Firebringer, Almost50

Shiro (2):
Farside22, Skybird

McMenno (2):
CooLDoG, Thefuzzylogic99

Obi-Wan Kenobi (1):
SirCakez

Not Voting (5):
Foxbird, randomidget, TheWayItEnds, DrippingGoofball, Creature

With 25 Alive, it takes 13 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-09-21 15:10:00)

The Current Stress is -1:

In post 6050, Varsoon wrote:
"This is my first production, so it needs to be exciting! It needs to be classic! It needs to be fully funded by Mayor Dewey. And it is... because he wrote it."

-Jamie,
Historical Friction

VOTECOUNT 2.14

Mathblade (8):
mastin2, Almost50, Xkfyu, McMenno, DrippingGoofball, Yume, Titus, Creature

DrippingGoofball (6):
Klingoncelt, Not Chara, Firebringer, SnarkySnowman, Shiro, Mathblade

Shiro (1):
Farside22

Shadow_Step (1):
Kraskaeaque

Farside22 (1):
randomidget

grapes (1):
killthestory

Xkfyu (1):
Skybird

Kraskaeaque (1):
grapes

TheFuzzyLogic99 (1):
Shadow_Step

Not Voting (3):
Reasonably Rational, TheWayItEnds, TheFuzzylogic99

With 24 Alive, it takes 13 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-10-02 00:10:00)

The Current Stress is +1:

Skybird and Farside22 are V/LA until 9/25/2016
Xkfyu is V/LA until 9/26/2016

In post 6318, Varsoon wrote:
"This planet has an expiration date, and I'm not gonna stick around to find out when!"

-Peridot,
Friend Ship

VOTECOUNT 2.16

Mathblade (
LYNCH
):
mastin2, Almost50, Xkfyu, McMenno, DrippingGoofball, Yume, Titus, Creature, Farside22, Not Chara, grapes, Mathblade, Firebringer

DrippingGoofball (3):
Klingoncelt, SnarkySnowman, Shiro

Shadow_Step (1):
Kraskaeaque

Farside22 (1):
randomidget

grapes (1):
killthestory

Xkfyu (1):
Skybird

TheFuzzyLogic99 (1):
Shadow_Step

Not Voting (3):
Reasonably Rational, TheWayItEnds, TheFuzzylogic99

With 24 Alive, it takes 13 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-10-02 00:10:00)

The Current Stress is +1:

Skybird and Farside22 are V/LA until 9/25/2016
Xkfyu is V/LA until 9/26/2016

In post 6975, Varsoon wrote:
"What? Your eyesight just magically got better?!"

-Dr. Maheswaran

"Yes!"

-Connie,
Nightmare Hospital

VOTECOUNT 3.02

Farside22 (7)
Titus, SnarkySnowman, MagnaofIllusion, TheWayItEnds, grapes, DrippingGoofball, Creature

DrippingGoofball (1):
Not Chara

Not Chara (1):
McMenno

Shadow_Step (1):
Kraskaeaque

Not Voting (12):
Shadow_Step, Xkfyu, Skybird, Almost50, Shiro, Farside22, Yume, Reasonably Rational, mastin2, Firebringer, Thefuzzylogic99, randomidget

With 22 Alive, it takes 12 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-10-13 05:20:00)

The Current Stress is 0:

Farside22 is V/LA until Friday, 10/07/2016.

In post 7300, Varsoon wrote:
"Aw, anybody can sound fine singing along with that song. It's so cheesy, and dumb, and-and catchy, and...
I know every single word."

-Sadie,
Sadie's Song

VOTECOUNT 3.03

Farside22 (7)
Titus, SnarkySnowman, MagnaofIllusion, TheWayItEnds, grapes, DrippingGoofball, Creature

DrippingGoofball (3):
Shiro, Thefuzzylogic99, Not Chara

Shadow_Step (3):
Kraskaeaque, Firebringer, McMenno

Skybird (1):
Farside22

Firebringer (1):
Yume

Not Voting (7):
Shadow_Step, Xkfyu, Skybird, Almost50, Reasonably Rational, mastin2, randomidget

With 22 Alive, it takes 12 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-10-13 05:20:00)

The Current Stress is 0:

Farside22 is V/LA until Friday, 10/07/2016.

In post 7350, Varsoon wrote:
"Ever since my act two years ago, there's been a rule that you gotta wear clothes."

-Steven,
Sadie's Song

VOTECOUNT 3.04

Farside22 (7):
Titus, SnarkySnowman, MagnaofIllusion, TheWayItEnds, grapes, DrippingGoofball, Creature

DrippingGoofball (3):
Shiro, Thefuzzylogic99, Not Chara

Shadow_Step (2):
Kraskaeaque, Firebringer

Firebringer (1):
Yume

Skybird (1):
Farside22

Not Voting (8):
Shadow_Step, Xkfyu, Skybird, Almost50, Reasonably Rational, mastin2, randomidget, McMenno

With 22 Alive, it takes 12 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-10-13 05:20:00)

The Current Stress is 0:

Farside22 is V/LA until Friday, 10/07/2016.

In post 7576, Varsoon wrote:
"You get this next act from their day job, delivering pizza! But tonight, they're delivering jokes!
...That was a joke!"

-Mr. Smiley,
Sadie's Song

VOTECOUNT 3.05

Farside22 (9):
Titus, SnarkySnowman, MagnaofIllusion, TheWayItEnds, grapes, DrippingGoofball, Skybird, Yume, Xkfyu

DrippingGoofball (6):
Shiro, Thefuzzylogic99, Not Chara, McMenno, Creature, Farside22

Shadow_Step (2):
Kraskaeaque, Firebringer

Creature (1):
Almost50

Xkfyu (1):
Shadow_Step

Not Voting (3):
Reasonably Rational, mastin2, randomidget

With 22 Alive, it takes 12 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-10-13 05:20:00)

The Current Stress is 0:

Farside22 is V/LA until Friday, 10/07/2016.

In post 7725, Varsoon wrote:
"It doesn't matter what Earth is like! It's not going to be like anything soon!"

-Peridot,
Catch and Release

VOTECOUNT 3.06

Farside22 (9):
Titus, SnarkySnowman, MagnaofIllusion, TheWayItEnds, grapes, DrippingGoofball, Skybird, Yume, Xkfyu

DrippingGoofball (6):
Shiro, Thefuzzylogic99, Not Chara, McMenno, Creature, Farside22

Shadow_Step (2):
Kraskaeaque, Firebringer

Creature (1):
Almost50

Xkfyu (1):
Shadow_Step

Not Voting (3):
Reasonably Rational, mastin2, randomidget

With 22 Alive, it takes 12 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-10-13 05:20:00)

The Current Stress is 0:

Farside22 is V/LA until Friday, 10/07/2016.
Not Chara is V/LA until Saturday, 10/09/2016

In post 7812, Varsoon wrote:
"I'm back to kidnap you!
What, it's been long enough that we can joke about it, right?"

-Amethyst

"It's only been, like, an hour."

-Steven,
Catch and Release

VOTECOUNT 3.07

Farside22 (8):
Titus, SnarkySnowman, MagnaofIllusion, TheWayItEnds, DrippingGoofball, Skybird, Yume, Xkfyu

DrippingGoofball (6):
Shiro, Thefuzzylogic99, Not Chara, McMenno, Creature, Farside22

Kraskaesque (3):
mastin2, grapes, Shadow_Step

Shadow_Step (2):
Kraskaeaque, Firebringer

Creature (1):
Almost50

Not Voting (2):
Reasonably Rational, randomidget

With 22 Alive, it takes 12 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-10-13 05:20:00)

The Current Stress is +1:

Farside22 is V/LA until Friday, 10/07/2016.
Not Chara is V/LA until Saturday, 10/08/2016
MagnaofIllusion is V/LA until Monday, 10/10/2016

In post 8089, Varsoon wrote:
"Don't worry, she's harmless without her limb enhancers."

-Pearl

"I'm not harmless!!"

-Peridot,
When It Rains

VOTECOUNT 3.08 : NOT A LYNCH?

Farside22 (LYNCH?):
Titus, SnarkySnowman, MagnaofIllusion, TheWayItEnds, DrippingGoofball, Skybird, Yume, Xkfyu, Not Chara, McMenno, Kraskaeaque, Almost50

DrippingGoofball (3):
Shiro, Thefuzzylogic99, Creature

SnarkySnowman (3):
mastin2, grapes, Farside22

Kraskaesque (1):
Shadow_Step

Shadow_Step (1):
Firebringer

Not Voting (2):
Reasonably Rational, randomidget

With 22 Alive, it takes 12 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-10-13 05:20:00)

The Current Stress is +1:

Not Chara is V/LA until Saturday, 10/08/2016
MagnaofIllusion is V/LA until Monday, 10/10/2016
Xkfyu is V/LA until Monday, 10/10/2016

[/quote]

In post 8225, Varsoon wrote:
"Let's run into this corner! Oh no!"

-Steven

"We're cornered!"

-Peridot,
When It Rains

VOTECOUNT 3.10

SnarkySnowman (6):
McMenno, Farside22, Titus, Not Chara, grapes, mastin2

Farside22 (2):
Yume, Almost50

Not Voting (14):
Shadow_Step, Xkfyu, Skybird, Shiro, DrippingGoofball, Reasonably Rational, Kraskaeaque, MagnaofIllusion, Firebringer, Thefuzzylogic99, SnarkySnowman, Creature, randomidget, TheWayItEnds

With 22 Alive, it takes 12 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-10-22 19:50:00)

The Current Stress is +1:

MagnaofIllusion is V/LA until Monday, 10/10/2016
Xkfyu is V/LA until Monday, 10/10/2016

In post 8412, Varsoon wrote:
"Wait! I have a better idea that doesn't involve destroying the house!"

-Steven

"Classic Steven."

-Amethyst,
Back to the Barn

VOTECOUNT 3.11

SnarkySnowman (7):
McMenno, Farside22, Titus, Not Chara, grapes, mastin2, TheWayItEnds

DrippingGoofball (4):
Thefuzzylogic99, SnarkySnowman, MagnaofIllusion, Creature

Farside22 (1):
Almost50

Not Voting (9):
Shadow_Step, Xkfyu, Skybird, Shiro, DrippingGoofball, Reasonably Rational, Kraskaeaque, Firebringer, randomidget

With 21 Alive, it takes 11 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-10-22 19:50:00)

The Current Stress is +2:

In post 8587, Varsoon wrote:
"Pearls aren't for this! They're for standing around, and looking nice, and holding your stuff for you... right?"

-Peridot,
Back to the Barn

VOTECOUNT 3.12 : LYNCH

DrippingGoofball (LYNCH):
Thefuzzylogic99, SnarkySnowman, MagnaofIllusion, Creature, Titus, Shiro, Firebringer, grapes, McMenno, Farside22, Not Chara

SnarkySnowman (2):
mastin2, TheWayItEnds

Farside22 (1):
Almost50

Shadow_Step (1):
Kraskaeaque

Not Voting (5):
Shadow_Step, Xkfyu, DrippingGoofball, Reasonably Rational, randomidget

With 20 Alive, it takes 11 to Lynch.
Deadline
: (expired on 2016-10-22 19:50:00)

The Current Stress is +2:

Day 1:

SirCakez voted me, Mcmenno
Skybird voted NC and Shiro (maybe a bus, but unlikely given SC was the other option)
DGB sat on RR (you would have to case RR here but you're townreading him, so not a bus).

Day 2 - Day 3:
Skybird never voted DGB.

The bussing

just

is not there with flipped scum. You're supposing your argument is correct with vca unless you have a RR scumread you never revealed.

Titus · Post Post #9061 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:18 pm

In post 9057, mastin2 wrote:
In post 9054, Titus wrote:Yes there was, the moment she claimed traitor.
And the scum wouldn't know for sure she actually was one. No more than the town would.

The gems were in still sorting.
Yes. Exactly. Still sorting. Not town.

Skybird did not know the crystal gems in all likelihood. (Which actually makes me feel much better about them actually.)

She did. She could never stick them as scum so she towns or sorts them.

McMenno · Post Post #9062 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:05 pm

In post 9005, Titus wrote:
In post 9003, mastin2 wrote:
In post 8980, Titus wrote:You on the other hand, REFUSE to consider the CHANCE you might be wrong on Farside because it doesn't fit how you scumhunt.
I refuse to consider farside as scum because of all the MYRIAD of reasons against that, yes.

You're violating Occam's Razor to ignore a guilty and lynch your scumread instead because it fits your view.
I'm not saying let TWIE live indefinitely. I'm saying let TWIE live through today and today alone. And that's a view made, based off of...a combination of mechanical reasons (there's the possibility TWIE can use his vig) and play-based reasons: I'm dead serious I was aiming to get a hard innocent on TWIE. What that means is, he was someone I was townreading. Literally the ONLY reason I have to call him scum is the guilty result, and yet, by giving him one day to prove his ability or die, I am setting a definitive term.

I meanwhile, have come up with a plan to settle Farside that works if we lynch scum today and tomorrow.
Yeah, the problem being you said "if", and TWIE won't give us that.

I'm flat-out refusing to believe my own guilty result. I will let him die tomorrow. I won't oppose his lynch. I might even join it. I will do so fully thinking I'm lynching a false positive. Ideally, he wouldn't be lynched until two or three days later, since I'd prefer to lynch my other scumreads above him. But I won't stop you.

I will resist today.

No. You get a guilty, you lynch it. That is Occam's Razor.
Skybird giving you power suggests scum wanted you IC over me.
Snarky is suggested town based off the event.
TWIE clears Farside if I am wrong.
TWIE flip should unify town.
But you refuse to consider it because scum have framed your narrative.

this discussion has been had in wake's game. gunsmiths are for guilties, not for innocents

you know what I did when you got a guilty on my buddy? I bussed

THE FUCK

out of them. and my other buddies did too

Xkfyu · Post Post #9063 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:00 am

In post 8933, Varsoon wrote:
Shadow_Step has no other non-factional abilities or Episode Events besides the ability to confirm this information.

Wait, that's it?

That isn't nearly as confirmed as you told me you would be. In fact, that isn't confirmed at all.

Xkfyu · Post Post #9064 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:00 am

That's to Shadow, by the way, not Varsoon lol.

McMenno · Post Post #9065 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:01 am

VOTE: snarky

Xkfyu · Post Post #9066 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:09 am

In post 8957, mastin2 wrote:Considering Shadow_step is my top lynch candidate.

You're not gonna get away with leaving this vague.

Shadow claimed the exact same "I have a role kinda like an IC" stuff in our alliance PT, so I was really thinking he was going to reveal and we'd all know he was confirmed town.

That is obviously not what has happened though, and I'm no longer convinced.

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #9067 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:13 am

In post 9063, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 8933, Varsoon wrote:
Shadow_Step has no other non-factional abilities or Episode Events besides the ability to confirm this information.
Wait, that's it?

That isn't nearly as confirmed as you told me you would be. In fact, that isn't confirmed at all.

How confirmed did he tell you he would be/what did he say would happen?

-Cerb

Pedit: I mean, realistically if he just said it's kinda like an IC, what exactly were you expecting? What he did is far from an IC (and pretty fucking anti-town tbh, since I don't actually see ANY positive effect from him telling scum that he's a VT), but I can't imagine what else he could have been referring to. "Like an IC" seems to mean publicly, mod confirmed reveal of something related to his role, and there's basically nothing role related that could be "revealed" which would confirm his alignment.

Xkfyu · Post Post #9068 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:18 am

In post 8983, Titus wrote:Oh and Snarky winning given my entire hood agreed to vote Creature is even MORE evidence Snarky is town.

My entire hood did vote Snarky.

Creature · Post Post #9069 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:19 am

lol at players that think wagon resistance can determine the wagonee's alignment.

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #9070 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:24 am

In post 9059, Titus wrote:
In post 9058, mastin2 wrote:
In post 9056, Titus wrote:I don't know what vote counts you're seeing but each and every scum lynch has been hard faught for with scum standing in the way.
Do tell.

Because VCA preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetty much shows otherwise.

It's DWTS right now (you actually made me miss the opener, not to mention, my dinner), so no proof. I didn't get Skybird's iso finished, yet alone Varsoon's. But when you've shut up, I've responded to everything, and DWTS is over, I'll show it.
Great, then we'll color the vote counts and show it.

But for now, pretty sure given no one healed grapes and grapes wasn't BP, that should be all the evidence there.

I am watching the voice and eating dinner now.

How do we know either of those things, that nobody healed grapes and he isn't BP? You said yourself we have like "7" protectives.

-Cerb

Xkfyu · Post Post #9071 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:28 am

In post 9067, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 9063, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 8933, Varsoon wrote:
Shadow_Step has no other non-factional abilities or Episode Events besides the ability to confirm this information.
Wait, that's it?

That isn't nearly as confirmed as you told me you would be. In fact, that isn't confirmed at all.

How confirmed did he tell you he would be/what did he say would happen?

-Cerb

Pedit: I mean, realistically if he just said it's kinda like an IC, what exactly were you expecting? What he did is far from an IC (and pretty fucking anti-town tbh, since I don't actually see ANY positive effect from him telling scum that he's a VT), but I can't imagine what else he could have been referring to. "Like an IC" seems to mean publicly, mod confirmed reveal of something related to his role, and there's basically nothing role related that could be "revealed" which would confirm his alignment.

He assured me that we would "know" that he is town.

Xkfyu · Post Post #9072 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:36 am

Ok I'm going to put an end to this.

Not Chara passively protected Grapes while they were allied. Not Chara also didn't claim to Grapes while they were allied. Therefore, Grapes didn't know he was being protected.

Knowing this, Skybird more than likely really did try to kill Grapes. Therefore, TWIE wouldn't have revealed Skybird's attempt to kill Grapes, giving town yet another confirmed town, if they were scum together.

Shadow_step · Post Post #9073 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:41 am

In post 9063, Xkfyu wrote:Wait, that's it?

That isn't nearly as confirmed as you told me you would be. In fact, that isn't confirmed at all.

I told you I got the crappiest role lol

I thought this clears me because I'm obviously not responsible for the scum events like Message recieved?

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #9074 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:44 am

In post 9073, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 9063, Xkfyu wrote:Wait, that's it?

That isn't nearly as confirmed as you told me you would be. In fact, that isn't confirmed at all.
I told you I got the crappiest role lol

I thought this clears me because I'm obviously not responsible for the scum events like Message recieved?

Lol no.

It specifically says non-factional in there. Like A50 said, all it does is confirm that if you're scum, you're just a goon.

And if you're town, you terribly misplayed this.

Why weren't you trying to appear as a strong or of some sort? Or pushing people hard andbeing super active? The only value a VT has is in their scumhunting, and getting killed instead of an actual PR.

-Cerb