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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:34 pm

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In post 213, Thor665 wrote:
In post 212, ecane wrote:@Creature, Thor
Have you both played with Flubber before? You mentioned he's pretending to be solving the game. Are there any other games that made you think that, or are there any concrete examples here?
I don't see him as particulary townie, but not scummy either.
I have played with him at least once prior to this game.
I would say the evidence is easily present in this game, and when I made the statement it was entirely based on this game.
As an easy example - read his first 10 or so posts in the game, and note that he isn't really applying much pressure, isn't offering opinions, and the most focused attack he has is basically asking other people to attack someone for something he doesn't even find scummy but agrees with.
I would happily argue that the first real genuine idea expressed clearly that is unquestioningly scumhunting doesn't come in until 27 posts in. Giving him something like a 25/1 ratio of empty posting to posts that look like scumhunting.

Do you think he looks like he's solving anything?
If so - what?
If not - why ask this?
Could've been a little bit swayed with the activity at the start, but I just thought he was like expressing his thoughts about the game a lot and well at least I thought it was pretty genuine.

I find it weird how people are being pretty much fine with the lynch while prior to that they have expressed no particular thoughts about it whatsoever. Scum could easily just hop on the wagon that's forming rn, if they haven't already, and I feel like all would be good for them since almost everyone seems to be doing it anyways.
It just somehow seems too easy.
For that matter.. @Lowell, qubixes..explain please.

Especially Lowell. You unvoted Flubber in , what changed your mind?
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:37 pm

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In post 221, Flubbernugget wrote:I can't clip lines out of your wall anymore. Yay phone posts.

Ecane's looked like pushing towards an easy accidental mislynch under the guise of getting reactions. This is especially so considering there was some decent anti town behavior that sat before 26 for comment
So I'm opportunistic because I didn't buy your Not_Mafia is scummy for townhunting stuff?
People have different ways of scum hunting, I think townhunting is completely valid, thinking that townhunting is scummy is also valid. However, assuming people will agree with what you think is scummy is bs.

Why haven't you metioned that before, and if that was the case why haven't you voted me?
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:13 pm

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@ecane:

I was having similar reservations about flubbernugget (, ). His answers felt a bit like evasive maneuvering. I thought Aelin made the most towny entrance this game, with a strong suggestion of a newer player. (Though it looks like I'm the only one...) Anyway, flubbernuggets question seemed a bit suggestive and as an attempted to start a fire without having to acknowledge starting it. If Aelin was a very experienced player, I don't think it would be as great a deal.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:19 pm

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In post 220, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 219, Thor665 wrote:How does evidence (or lack thereof) of the slot being newb matter to me claiming the slot is town?
I also note you dodged the question for a second time.
I told you why I thought nmego was town. I then gave you examples. I brought you to water and you didn't drink. That's fine. Handwaving that by accusing me of dodging your question is dishonest and scummy.
I think Thor is asking a very reasonable question. In you talk about the "growing pains" of nmego being indicative of newb!town. Why would newb!scum not show these growing pains?
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:50 am

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In post 220, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 219, Thor665 wrote:How does evidence (or lack thereof) of the slot being newb matter to me claiming the slot is town?
I also note you dodged the question for a second time.
I told you why I thought nmego was town. I then gave you examples. I brought you to water and you didn't drink. That's fine. Handwaving that by accusing me of dodging your question is dishonest and scummy.
I had a response to this, but Quibixes pretty much summed it up without being sarcastic so maybe I'll just go with that with the note that I specifically asked you how those posts showed town intent moreso than scum intent and other than alingment neutral newb intent;
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8431037
In post 221, Flubbernugget wrote:Ecane's looked like pushing towards an easy accidental mislynch under the guise of getting reactions. This is especially so considering there was some decent anti town behavior that sat before 26 for comment
I am not surprised that a newer player (or even an experienced one, frankly most of the game weren't picking on the things you were choosing to pick on- I wouldn't have either) did what she did, especially after other people had. Might buy it as scum tring to blend in theory...but I'd need other evidence to run that path. Also, considering Lowell dogged her for it, and considering how Lowell entered - how can you think it's particularly an issue for her at all? The odds are super small at that point, no?
In post 223, Flubbernugget wrote:And yes I "attacked" your slot without scumreading it and I stand by it. When is the last time you found scum by rubbing their back and kissing them on the cheek?
I think the cheek kissing works better than attacking a slot by asking other people to attack something that you agree isn't a bad comment and isn't scum telling - yes.
Everyone knows backrubs don't work though - derp ;)
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:04 am

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unvote thor
, who wins this argument with flubber.

quib is scum. If I could doublevote him I would. He's too polished.
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:39 am

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In post 230, Lowell wrote:
unvote thor
, who wins this argument with flubber.

quib is scum. If I could doublevote him I would. He's too polished.
Uh, thanks? Why not unvote the rest to make my wagon more significant?
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:59 am

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Or maybe vote Flubber, who you're calling scummy?
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:00 am

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In post 162, Thor665 wrote:@Lowell - back up your attack on Ecane - she asked you a very valid question of how voting everyone is more townish than voting almost everyone so all the wagons are equal. I wouldn't call either blinding town, but to suggest one is scummy while doing the other is pretty nonsensical. Back up that gak.
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:59 am

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I looked through nmego's other game (scum). It looks like at least his productivity isn't very alignment indicative. His demeanor looks a bit less like a newbie in that game, which confuses me a bit, but perhaps that is because it was a Newbie game. His style was quite different than in this game though. Oh, and it seems he got replaced 2/2 games so far...
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:22 am

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unvote all


VOTE: qubizes
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:44 am

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UNVOTE: Flubber
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:19 am

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Bah, I need to re-read.

If I don't answer your question, it's because it's boring to answer.
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:20 am

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qubixes looks town there.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:21 am

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Don't think it's ecane or nmego either.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:22 am

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I don't think I'll go through the entire game without getting paranoid of Flubber, but I think he's town.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:22 am

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Bah can't townread Thor
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:23 am

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malpascp never read the thread in one sitting, that's sad.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:23 am

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I also retract my Lowell townread.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:02 am

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Votecount 1.1.06


Lowell (3) - Flubbernugget, Not_Mafia, ecane
Not_Mafia (3) - Flubbernugget, nmego12345, Thor665
qubixes (2) - ecane, Lowell
Flubbernugget (2) - Thor665, Creature
malpascp (1) - Not_Mafia
Creature (1) - nmego12345
nmego12345 (1) - Not_Mafia
Thor665 (1) - Not_Mafia

Not Voting (2) - malpascp, qubixes

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Prodding malpascp and nmego12345.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-10-25 15:59:37)
Is it any wonder things seem so awry? We swim in a sea of confusion and don't have to think to survive, so nobody listens!
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:28 am

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In post 233, Thor665 wrote:
In post 162, Thor665 wrote:@Lowell - back up your attack on Ecane - she asked you a very valid question of how voting everyone is more townish than voting almost everyone so all the wagons are equal. I wouldn't call either blinding town, but to suggest one is scummy while doing the other is pretty nonsensical. Back up that gak.
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:35 am

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@Thor- my move was bold and awesome. Her move was designed to look brave but was actually an attempt to stall progress. When someone does something exciting, then someone else does a lesser version of that same thing, the second person is scummy.

Also, creature is now town.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:44 am

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How was your move of voting everyone bold and awesome?
Functionally it is also a stall - as it doesn't put anyone ahead in vote counts without other people doing stuff, and is a way to hide your own thoughts. It's the opposite of bold, yeah?
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:41 am

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V/LA for indefinite period of time
. Basically my ISP cut my connection for no fucking reason so I'm posting using my mobile data, and that will be my only option for the next few days, so I have to use it sparingly.
Tomorrow I'll post something game related (tbh I didn't even catch up yet)
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:32 pm

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In post 228, qubixes wrote:
In post 220, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 219, Thor665 wrote:How does evidence (or lack thereof) of the slot being newb matter to me claiming the slot is town?
I also note you dodged the question for a second time.
I told you why I thought nmego was town. I then gave you examples. I brought you to water and you didn't drink. That's fine. Handwaving that by accusing me of dodging your question is dishonest and scummy.
I think Thor is asking a very reasonable question. In you talk about the "growing pains" of nmego being indicative of newb!town. Why would newb!scum not show these growing pains?
I would expect the blithering to be more defensive instead of inquisitive.

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