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[Infinity 324]

It's unlike lane to be so cautious

[MathBlade]

The claim is...
My night action was blocked and that's why there was no NK.

That means 1 of the 2 of the following are true:
1. SlySly is scum that issued the NK for scum and Stargazers blocked it
2. Stargazers, who has a guilty against them, is scum

Vote accordingly.

Neither of these have to be true.

There are a lot of possibilities where both could be town.
Like Stargazers is town and roleblocked Sly and scum kill is doctored/BP/whatever and Creature is redirected.
Mafia/Town Lightning Rod
Stargazers town and roleblocked the killer who does not necessarily have to be sly. Creature is lying and is a low power role.

I think the main thing is that people are mechanics over scumhunting.

[MathBlade]

There are a lot of things not being considered here. Let's slow down and think.

[Creature]

If there's a Mafia Lightning Rod, I don't know how we would play out anyway.

[Creature]

Btw, I am not lying.

[Creature]

Would you abandon your guilty because there's a possibility (even if it's small) that someone could've messed up your investigation?

is this a hypothetical question? as in the "you" is referring to yourself, creature?

Yes, it's an hypothetical question.

[SlySly]

Stargazers town and roleblocked the killer who does not necessarily have to be sly.

One of your ridiculous theories destroyed.

we roleblocked slysly last night

Occam's razor. It's me or SG.

[MathBlade]

Generally lightning rods are limited shot so the game can be played. My point is scum would have ways of fucking with PRs. In Shadowrun Mafia I explicitly created situations that conf!scummed a townie to get rid of a mason crumb.

[MathBlade]

I do not believe in Occam's Razor without analysis

[lane0168]

It's unlike lane to be so cautious

What is this shit? Cautious of what?

[MathBlade]

The biggest thing is even if Stargazers blocked Sly it is not condemning of Sly. It means that if Stargazers is town then Creature's result is messed with or Creature is scum. There is not conclusive evidence of who did the kill.

[MathBlade]

This becomes a matter of if Creature is trusted.

[MathBlade]

And Creature wasn't fucked with.

[MathBlade]

I am at work but I want to reuse creature

[SlySly]

The biggest thing is even if Stargazers blocked Sly it is not condemning of Sly. It means that if Stargazers is town then Creature's result is messed with or Creature is scum. There is not conclusive evidence of who did the kill.

There is conclusive evidence that there was no kill. That razor keeps getting shinier.

[Infinity 324]

It's unlike lane to be so cautious

What is this shit? Cautious of what?

Just slow to act and considering all possibilities

It's out of character for you

[PantherPunt]

VOTE: Creature

I'm pretty sure we most likely blocked the kill last night because that flip on Gamma was scummy as fuck

@mathblade I agree about scumhunting over mechanics

so how do you not care about the cognitive dissonance in this post

I don't know what actually happened but I know this perspective doesn't add up for someone who is evaluating who the most likely scum is from their point of view

I realize now the other hyrda head said the thing about "you were redirected or framed" but just in this one post alone there's a disconnect

[Infinity 324]

I'm 99% sure one of stargazers and slysly is scum.

[MathBlade]

Reiso* autocorrect sucks.

Yes. No kill does not mean Stargazers blocked it. This is what I take issue with. Doctors BPs or other things can interact with it if they exist. I want to look back and figure it out.

[Infinity 324]

Reiso* autocorrect sucks.

Yes. No kill does not mean Stargazers blocked it. This is what I take issue with. Doctors BPs or other things can interact with it if they exist. I want to look back and figure it out.

Suit yourself, I'm sticking with my guns

[Stargazers]

I already answered your question Infinity nothing more can really be said because this site always tests "guilty" claims because people don't like to think for themselves I have nothing to say on the matter I think we prob caught 2 scum so our lynch is the best outcome
~Maria

[Expedience]

Here, I'll start the wagon for you.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: SlySly

Not again! =(

So there's no other explanation for no kill?

Probably a doctor or roleblocker that didn't claim.

[Infinity 324]

I already answered your question Infinity

Where?

[MathBlade]

That is the crux of it.

IMHO if anyone is scum I would pick Creature over Stargazers. The last will mechanic would let Creature out his guilty. Instead he could have tunneled Nahdia and then saw who didn't want to vote her and see if his guilty was untampered with. However if it was the reads are lost because people are giving scum an out. (The paragraph assumes Nahdia town)

I think gut reaction based on how things went both are town or Creature is scum and Sly would be likely but not confirmed scum.

However I want to read and confirm. I also have a hard time believing Stargazers would crumb as scum.

[SlySly]

Math is scum.