Good to see Sotty has still got it after all these years!In post 30, Sotty7 wrote:First page discussion about dice voting
Second page post about not random voting
Only thing missing is a shameless bandwagon discussion
vote: goodmorning
Mini Normal 1843 - Endgame
-
-
Hoopla
- Posts: 10788
- Joined: October 12, 2008
-
-
goodmorning AnySurvivorAny
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 10204
- Joined: October 15, 2012
- Pronoun: Any
- Location: THE SWAMPS OF MOSQUITOEY HELL (aka Orlando, FL)
Glad to be of help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
Get to know a very pleasant AM.-
-
CloudKicker Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8835
- Joined: October 16, 2016
To sum it up, we vote our fos and we lynch them. Reads are easier to get and are more accurate since its easier to deceive when you have time to write a post vs real timeIn post 46, Sotty7 wrote:I'm curious Cloud, how do you kick start games on epicmafia without random voting?
RVS has been here for as long as I have been on this site, or at least as long as I remember. It's changed and migrated over the years, but it is pretty much always fruitful in starting the game from nothing, especially since day starts became more common. It's not perfect but the reason it is still here is because there hasn't really been anything to replace it.
I mean right now we have you and Michel debating playing style over anything that has really happened in the game yet. Strongly held play ideals won't change from a scum to town role, but perhaps how someone enters the game in "RVS" will.-
-
goodmorning AnySurvivorAny
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 10204
- Joined: October 15, 2012
- Pronoun: Any
- Location: THE SWAMPS OF MOSQUITOEY HELL (aka Orlando, FL)
mfw i don't ignore cloud but cloud ignores meeeeeee
EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
Get to know a very pleasant AM.-
-
CloudKicker Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8835
- Joined: October 16, 2016
-
-
mhsmith0 Balancing Act
- Balancing Act
- Balancing Act
- Posts: 10830
- Joined: March 7, 2016
- Location: Phoenix, AZ
Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?-
-
BlackVoid Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2725
- Joined: September 15, 2016
@Rask, what's there to like about GM's comments on BBT? If you are talking about post #8, there's nothing in there that's an alignment marker. Just looks like an early vote on someone they played with before and hoping that he is town which is something I could see from either alignment.
VOTE: Raskolnikov
This entire post gives me bad vibes:
Too many qualifiers. You undermine pretty much all the points you are making.In post 36, Raskolnikov wrote:I actually like what GM said about BBTAlso him saying the game was annoying I think mirrors how I felt about people arguing over the dice,unless it's a super catered pocketing attempt.although that's an assumption.
I'm wondering what the likelihood is micheal would issue that PSA #1 as scum, I think very low.The only issue is the chance he thought of it from pre-game and planned to say it regardless of role pm, instead of just now (makes sense given the circumstances).
No scumleads yet though.-
-
Hoopla
- Posts: 10788
- Joined: October 12, 2008
-
-
BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 23692
- Joined: April 10, 2014
- Location: Liverpool, UK
What did you like about it?In post 36, Raskolnikov wrote:I actually like what GM said about BBT unless it's a super catered pocketing attempt.
Not much has happened so far - we need to get a wagon going.
VOTE: RaskMeta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
-
Sotty7 That Damn Good
- That Damn Good
- That Damn Good
- Posts: 6744
- Joined: October 7, 2005
- Location: Minnesota
-
-
Sotty7 That Damn Good
- That Damn Good
- That Damn Good
- Posts: 6744
- Joined: October 7, 2005
- Location: Minnesota
Happy enough with hoopla's post on Michel to have him as my first town read. Hoopla piggybacks off this with a slight town read as well, even though she probably would point this out as scum or town.
Cloud I have a neutral read since most of his posts have been about playing style but I'm hoping that's just because he is new.
Everyone else is pretty much nothing at this point.-
-
CloudKicker Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8835
- Joined: October 16, 2016
lol funny, i have no idea why youd make a post avec someone null-telling with non-alignement tellings posts about mechanics. Also, whats the difference between ''much nothing at this point'' and ''neutral read'' -> isnt everyone a neutral read by default when you dont have any reads on themIn post 60, Sotty7 wrote:Happy enough with hoopla's post on Michel to have him as my first town read. Hoopla piggybacks off this with a slight town read as well, even though she probably would point this out as scum or town.
Cloud I have a neutral read since most of his posts have been about playing style but I'm hoping that's just because he is new.
Everyone else is pretty much nothing at this point.-
-
Hoopla
- Posts: 10788
- Joined: October 12, 2008
-
-
TwoFace Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6397
- Joined: September 1, 2016
-
-
TwoFace Jack of All Trades
-
-
Raskolnikov Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6395
- Joined: November 15, 2015
I liked it because it's what I thought, I had a lot of trouble with BBT our last 2 games. One game it took me 4 days to make my mind up on him, but he mislynched me, next game I mislynched him day 1 and got nightkiilled. The caveat is because it's an assumption I would have to later check it again, but it was okay for early.
Ironically, now that I said that and people actually voted me for it, 47 rubs me the opposite way. People won't like me saying this, but fuck it.
As for the qualifiers point, this is lame but I do think like that. People hate wishywashyness so much though, sometimes I bury the doubts down and just present a simplified viewpoint to make things easier for people. But then again I've been getting nightkilled early in recent games so this might be for the best.-
-
CloudKicker Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8835
- Joined: October 16, 2016
-
-
TwoFace Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6397
- Joined: September 1, 2016
-
-
Sotty7 That Damn Good
- That Damn Good
- That Damn Good
- Posts: 6744
- Joined: October 7, 2005
- Location: Minnesota
What do you think of this wagon that's popped up?In post 61, CloudKicker wrote:
lol funny, i have no idea why youd make a post avec someone null-telling with non-alignement tellings posts about mechanics. Also, whats the difference between ''much nothing at this point'' and ''neutral read'' -> isnt everyone a neutral read by default when you dont have any reads on themIn post 60, Sotty7 wrote:Happy enough with hoopla's post on Michel to have him as my first town read. Hoopla piggybacks off this with a slight town read as well, even though she probably would point this out as scum or town.
Cloud I have a neutral read since most of his posts have been about playing style but I'm hoping that's just because he is new.
Everyone else is pretty much nothing at this point.
You're right about the neutral read but I wanted to make more of a mental note when it came to you.-
-
TwoFace Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6397
- Joined: September 1, 2016
can you please link me to where you have outed reads, I have trouble locating them when looking over your iso.In post 66, CloudKicker wrote:Havent outed a single read-
-
Raskolnikov Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6395
- Joined: November 15, 2015
Of those on my wagon.
Blackvoid vote has understandable reasoning and I like him thinking that way. BBT's makes sense because he'd probably want to sort me based of our experience, but there are caveats. twoface/sotty is blank/neutral, I assume the "justification" is to get an early wagon going but I can't read into alignment on that so much.
I don't like hoopla vote justified on association; If you scumread someone enough this early to look at associations, I think you'd keep pushing them instead. 57 is a little ridiculous.
In my own experience I love to push association tells as scum (because it's easy and low-commitment) and people rarely call you out for pushing things on it.
I also enjoy
a) linking a scumpartner with a townie in associations, best case scenario townie lynch makes the scumpartner look better, worst case scum gets lynched and get the townie in return
b) super scumread a scum for strong reasons but end up pushing/voting town for weak reasons
but in this case, although the switch by hoopla from gm to me is weird I don't think that was distancing. I would imagine goodmorning would have fought hoopla back a bit more if that was the goal, instead of voting victor. Same with goodmorning's comment on being annoyed earlier.
Mostly though, the post saying she feels her scumread is about to crack under pressure but she changes vote is absurd to me. You pressure someone and then right when you feel you're almost there, you switch to something like an weak association as town. I think the frustration in 62 is over the top considering she didn't really put that much effort into changing people's minds. Again, anecdotal, but as scum I love to complain about "oh no I have to do this because everyone else" and not take responsibility or effort into fighting against it and changing people's minds (for obvious reasons)... she didn't really push gm with much effort before complaining like this, if you look at the iso.
VOTE: Hoopla-
-
TwoFace Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6397
- Joined: September 1, 2016
if you want to lynch gm, why the vote change?In post 62, Hoopla wrote:I can't believe we're letting goodmorning off the hook...
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Raskolnikov-
-
Raskolnikov Jack of All Trades
-
-
Raskolnikov Jack of All Trades
-
-
TwoFace Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6397
- Joined: September 1, 2016
eh, this comment was unnecessary cause omgus as a valid tell died years agoIn post 72, Raskolnikov wrote:And yeah, omgus. Bite me.
p,edit - you're right, i didn't
Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.