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Post Post #9275 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:40 pm

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In post 9265, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 9262, mastin2 wrote:
In post 9120, Reasonably Rational wrote:Generally, when a vote is placed all previous votes are removed.
This becomes relevant if, and only if, farside was aware of this fact.

Demonstrate knowledge that farside would be aware her previous vote would be removed, and you have a case.
Fail to demonstrate that farside had knowledge, and you have something that is null.
And, public knowledge and/or past V games don't count for this. Players can and will miss facts.

Pull quotes from farside's iso which show she knows her voting power would remove her previous vote, and you'll have me interested.
Otherwise, I'll just go with the lynch TWIE first plan which, yknow. Is what I promised.
Keep reading Mastin. That's what I was tryng to figure out, and later she states she was planning for 8 votes.

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You said it did before I responded to the question.
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Mastin: I'm sure I'll be lynched but do you think getting rid of the event helps?
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Post Post #9276 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:44 pm

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In post 9275, farside22 wrote:Mastin: I'm sure I'll be lynched but do you think getting rid of the event helps?
The action of getting rid of the event neither harms nor helps at this moment.
If everyone has posted a vote and you/kraska are literally the only ones who can vote, there's something really important to be gained from that.
Further thoughts should wait until everyone has cast a vote.

And I mean, not claimed they can't vote.
Everyone has ACTUALLY cast a vote for proof.
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Post Post #9277 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:45 pm

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In post 9267, Reasonably Rational wrote:Fyi Mastin (and Shiro will corroborate) Titus set out an action plan, and the first point was lynching Farside, not TWIE. Sorting TWIE (not lynching him) was actually the fifth or sixth item.

Just something you might want to know since you're concerned about this promise.

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Post Post #9278 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:45 pm

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In post 9276, mastin2 wrote:
In post 9275, farside22 wrote:Mastin: I'm sure I'll be lynched but do you think getting rid of the event helps?
The action of getting rid of the event neither harms nor helps at this moment.
If everyone has posted a vote and you/kraska are literally the only ones who can vote, there's something really important to be gained from that.
Further thoughts should wait until everyone has cast a vote.

And I mean, not claimed they can't vote.
Everyone has ACTUALLY cast a vote for proof.
Shadow and twie haven't voted.
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Post Post #9279 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:48 pm

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Spoiler:
HAVE NO VOTE:
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HAVE POSTED BUT NOT VOTED:
Shadow_step

HAVE VOTES:
farside
kraska

WAIT FOR THE MOD (but probably not)
mastina (I submitted McMenno, so)

HAVEN'T POSTED/VOTED:
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Post Post #9280 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:35 pm

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There not enough votes to lynch anyone scum or town......'The only option is to No lynch

The question is should we keep going or No lynch as soon as possible. I hate making the day go on longer but I think if we keep this day going for a bit we might cause a scum slip

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Post Post #9281 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:28 pm

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VOTE: TFL

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Post Post #9282 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:29 pm

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY FARFAR
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Post Post #9283 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:32 pm

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not sure what you guys are drinking
but we have confirmed scum at hand, the logical thing to do here is lynch twie. after that we can maybe discuss policy-ing far
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Post Post #9284 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:54 pm

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In post 9283, kraskaesque wrote:not sure what you guys are drinking
but we have confirmed scum at hand, the logical thing to do here is lynch twie. after that we can maybe discuss policy-ing far
huh how can we lynch when we need 7 and at most we have 3-4 people that we can vote


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I am just oing to ignore you bc you are tunneling, From what I can tell fro VCA and ISO you and your predecessors are bad town. You are like 0 for 100 in the scum hunting game, I doubt you are scum.

Almost has a weird VCA. Almost was off the Cakes and DGB lynch and on the Farside, and Blades lynch. Not sure if this coincidence or something else. The only town lynch she was off was Snarky.
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Post Post #9285 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:56 pm

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@ Shadow
should clarify you have not been on either a town or scum lynch,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post Post #9286 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:59 pm

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Fuzzy I'm going to stop the event later so everyone can get their votes back
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Post Post #9287 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:13 pm

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How are you going to do that???

Who do you think are scum???
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Post Post #9288 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:22 pm

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If you can stop events, why didn't you stop the cluster event?
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Post Post #9289 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:24 pm

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In post 9285, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:@ Shadow
should clarify you have not been on either a town or scum lynch,,,,,,,,,,,
Didn't realise that.
I live in a different time zone (+x GMT) so when all the lynched happen I'm asleep.
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Post Post #9290 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:30 pm

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Cluster was resolved during climax
I can only stop events that are ongoing during exposition

@fuzzy you clearly haven't read any of the posts I made today dude. Iso me pls
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Post Post #9291 (ISO) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:17 am

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Player that could have an alliance today but don't rr and shiro.
Shadow who were you in an alliance with yesterday?
Moi who were you in an alliance with yesterday?
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Post Post #9292 (ISO) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:17 am

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In post 9282, kraskaesque wrote:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY FARFAR
Thanks you!
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Post Post #9293 (ISO) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:39 am

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In post 9233, Reasonably Rational wrote:Welp, now that MoI has 100% outed you, Random, can you explain how you both thought gems were all town, but also had MoI as your top suspect out of creatures pool?

Also, MoI, we only fought Farside's kynch on one day. And we pushed REALLY hard to get farside lynched on D3, after we realized we'd be able to bypass her lynch protection, if she had any more.

Not that that went badly since we still ended up on DGB, but you're absolutely misrepresenting us fighting against Farside's lynch.
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Post Post #9294 (ISO) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:28 am

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In post 9291, farside22 wrote:Player that could have an alliance today but don't rr and shiro.
Shadow who were you in an alliance with yesterday?
Moi who were you in an alliance with yesterday?
Xk, we were going to ally again today.
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Post Post #9295 (ISO) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:22 am

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In post 9294, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 9291, farside22 wrote:Player that could have an alliance today but don't rr and shiro.
Shadow who were you in an alliance with yesterday?
Moi who were you in an alliance with yesterday?
Xk, we were going to ally again today.
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Post Post #9296 (ISO) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:43 am

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In post 9291, farside22 wrote:Player that could have an alliance today but don't rr and shiro.
Getting tired of your manipulative bullshit. You keep trying to throw shade on us because you're caught and cornered like a rat and you know it.

We had a really good reason to ally differently today and we actually told the person we were trying to ally and it was right here in the thread.

If you want to talk about alliances ... let's start with you agreeing to ally Titus so that you two could stop poisoning the thread (you were both doing it, and you are STILL doing it) and get yourselves in check, but somehow you mysteriously knew that you needed to ally elsewhere during the night.

@Kraska - Be honest please. When did Farside suggest that you two ally instead of her previous arrangement and whatever you would have done? Was it
AFTER
Varsoon posted the flip and the stress moved, but there was the note there saying that the stress change wouldn't affect anything submitted in the night? Basically what I'm asking is ... did Farside basically do an "OMG, we can kill Titus!" and then ask you to ally? Because ... that's what it looks like from the outside, and you're literally helping her get away with it.

@Farside - No interruptions please. We would like to see what Kraska will say about when this all went down, because we asked you earlier and you already lied about it. You claim that you decided before yesterday ended that you weren't going to ally Titus, AND TOLD HER SO, when you did no such thing. Even if we take your earlier statement as truth, you basically said "I deceived the only actual conftown in the game who I knew had claimed to be BP while in an alliance and placed her in a situation where she would have no alliance." - I mean ... I get that your goose is totally cooked when Kraska checks the time stamps and confirms that you changed your mind about allying only AFTER you realized your team could kill Titus ... but what you said before wasn't exactly much less damning. (P.S. - Post #8845 you agreed to ally Titus, so yeah).


And the rest of you... I already pointed out that the gems were essentially a very large masonry. Now look they've admitted to being exactly a masonry. Still believe the scum team is small and low powered like the flips we've seen or do you think MAYBE ... JUST MAYBE ... a high powered role like lynchproof, alliance destroyer, nearly unliminted multivoter might be scum? And oh look ... the player with that role has taken literally the scummiest actions in the entire game! At this point, the game will be fucking over before people stop with absurd shit like "Scum wouldn't trade 1 for 4" or whatever the hell it is if Farside manages to get out of today.

It's not a fucking policy lynch. It's so obviously scum that it's like a gigantic phallus slapping the game in the face at this point. AND we now know that there was a group of individual 3P called "the leftovers" and one of them got to join with the gems after beach-a-palooza. It therefore makes sense that Farside could have done the whole vote for Not Chara thing, knowing that her vote would count full, then use it to try and push the idea that she and Not Chara were both conftown (which she did!!!) and then she could have joined the scum team. It fits ... and frankly it fills in what looks like a gigantic power void between scum and town+gems (assuming the gems are essentially a town friendly masonry).

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Post Post #9297 (ISO) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:04 am

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In post 9296, Reasonably Rational wrote:@Kraska - Be honest please. When did Farside suggest that you two ally instead of her previous arrangement and whatever you would have done? Was it AFTER Varsoon posted the flip and the stress moved, but there was the note there saying that the stress change wouldn't affect anything submitted in the night? Basically what I'm asking is ... did Farside basically do an "OMG, we can kill Titus!" and then ask you to ally? Because ... that's what it looks like from the outside, and you're literally helping her get away with it.
after the lynch happened but before varsoon made snarky's flip public
she said something about how there were 4 votes added instead of 5 or idk...and that that means snarky is town(@far can you clarify what you meant with this? sorry im just not really sure how you figured from the way your vote worked that snarky is town)
and then asked me to ally again
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Post Post #9298 (ISO) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:06 am

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We could also force farside22 to seventuple vote TWIE.
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Post Post #9299 (ISO) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:06 am

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*septuple
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