Open 654 | Surrealism - Game over

eagerSnake · Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:51 am

Yakko or mimikyu.. hmm..

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:37 am

VOTE: yakko

Ya lets do that thing I've been talking about the whole fucking game

Mimikyu · Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:13 am

VOTE: Yakko

BTD6_maker · Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:57 am

I can presume Mafia killed Aubrey as I cannot see it being optimal for a wolf to kill Aubrey. Unless we kill Mafia today my death is certain.

What about Werewolves though? If Mafia killed Aubrey then either Werewolves ran a No Kill gambit (with no Stalkers, there is no reason for this) or their kill was protected by a Town Guardian. Hence I can presume a Town Guardian exists.

Yakko went nowhere. I can probably presume he is not Mafia. If he is a wolf he is probably the Roleblocker, in which case I can understand his action as he feared having to claim and being counterclaimed.

This time we want to lynch Mafia. I can probably clear Yakko of this (possibly Eagersnake, though that is less likely). If we do not my death is certain and we are left with just a Guardian.

VOTE: Mimikyu

BTD6_maker · Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:58 am

If Yakko is Mafia who No Killed, a wolf must have killed Aubrey and I cannot see the motivation behind that.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:59 am

In post 1778, BTD6_maker wrote:I can presume Mafia killed Aubrey as I cannot see it being optimal for a wolf to kill Aubrey. Unless we kill Mafia today my death is certain.

What about Werewolves though? If Mafia killed Aubrey then either Werewolves ran a No Kill gambit (with no Stalkers, there is no reason for this) or their kill was protected by a Town Guardian. Hence I can presume a Town Guardian exists.

Yakko went nowhere. I can probably presume he is not Mafia. If he is a wolf he is probably the Roleblocker, in which case I can understand his action as he feared having to claim and being counterclaimed.

This time we want to lynch Mafia. I can probably clear Yakko of this (possibly Eagersnake, though that is less likely). If we do not my death is certain and we are left with just a Guardian.

VOTE: Mimikyu

Isn't the other option that both scum targeted Aubrey?

Mimikyu · Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:19 am

In post 1778, BTD6_maker wrote:I can presume Mafia killed Aubrey as I cannot see it being optimal for a wolf to kill Aubrey. Unless we kill Mafia today my death is certain.

What about Werewolves though? If Mafia killed Aubrey then either Werewolves ran a No Kill gambit (with no Stalkers, there is no reason for this) or their kill was protected by a Town Guardian. Hence I can presume a Town Guardian exists.

Yakko went nowhere. I can probably presume he is not Mafia. If he is a wolf he is probably the Roleblocker, in which case I can understand his action as he feared having to claim and being counterclaimed.

This time we want to lynch Mafia. I can probably clear Yakko of this (possibly Eagersnake, though that is less likely). If we do not my death is certain and we are left with just a Guardian.

VOTE: Mimikyu

Given you said this:

In post 1743, BTD6_maker wrote:
If anyone but Yakko is lynched, Yakko is my target
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Why wouldn't Mafia!Yakko run a No Kill gambit? Just because you think a wolf wouldn't kill Aubrey? Aubrey is still conf-town even he wasn't a PR that affected them. Killing an innocent child is still better than killing a rando.

BTD6_maker · Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:22 am

Not in multiball. Scum want to kill players who aren't confTown for a greater chance of killing a scum.

Mimikyu · Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:41 am

In post 1782, BTD6_maker wrote:Not in multiball. Scum want to kill players who aren't confTown for a greater chance of killing a scum.

No. You definitely are killing conftown if you have the chance. You can't hope to guess and win at night. You need to win during the day which means eliminating conftown. Of course this, like anything, is not always true, but to think that scum wouldn't try to kill a conftown is insane.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:50 am

Am I crazy or was that an extra long night

VOTE: Mimikyu

Mimikyu · Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:55 am

In post 1784, Dunnstral wrote:Am I crazy or was that an extra long night

VOTE: Mimikyu

It was long. Deadline for night was 5:00 PM last night my time and game didn't open up until like 10:00 AM today my time.

Mimikyu · Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:14 am

In post 1784, Dunnstral wrote:Am I crazy or was that an extra long night

VOTE: Mimikyu

Let's pretend you don't think I am scum. Who is?

Dunnstral · Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:19 am

It's hard for me to imagine Zach or Eagersnake as scum... I think they're really towning it up this game

So either I'm wrong on one of them and have basically given them a free pass yesterday

Or I was wrong on Yakko

But either way, I think you're one of the scum

Mimikyu · Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:24 am

In post 1787, Dunnstral wrote:It's hard for me to imagine Zach or Eagersnake as scum... I think they're really towning it up this game

So either I'm wrong on one of them and have basically given them a free pass yesterday

Or I was wrong on Yakko

But either way, I think you're one of the scum

Ok well you do actually need to accept you were wrong on one of those people unless you are scum, so who is it?

eagerSnake · Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:27 am

In post 1788, Mimikyu wrote:
In post 1787, Dunnstral wrote:It's hard for me to imagine Zach or Eagersnake as scum... I think they're really towning it up this game

So either I'm wrong on one of them and have basically given them a free pass yesterday

Or I was wrong on Yakko

But either way, I think you're one of the scum
Ok well you do actually need to accept you were wrong on one of those people unless you are scum, so who is it?

Who do you think it is?

Dunnstral · Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:31 am

In post 1788, Mimikyu wrote:
In post 1787, Dunnstral wrote:It's hard for me to imagine Zach or Eagersnake as scum... I think they're really towning it up this game

So either I'm wrong on one of them and have basically given them a free pass yesterday

Or I was wrong on Yakko

But either way, I think you're one of the scum
Ok well you do actually need to accept you were wrong on one of those people unless you are scum, so who is it?

I don't know. I'm not willing to lynch them over you.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:32 am

I'd be most inclined to say it was yakko I was wrong on but I'd have to look at it again

Mimikyu · Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:35 am

In post 1789, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 1788, Mimikyu wrote:
In post 1787, Dunnstral wrote:It's hard for me to imagine Zach or Eagersnake as scum... I think they're really towning it up this game

So either I'm wrong on one of them and have basically given them a free pass yesterday

Or I was wrong on Yakko

But either way, I think you're one of the scum
Ok well you do actually need to accept you were wrong on one of those people unless you are scum, so who is it?
Who do you think it is?

Gun to my head I think the two remaining are Yakko and Dunnstral, although I don't think we can lynch Yakko today due to the tracker results (even though it could just be scum-play). Zach is actually the only person I feel really strongly about being town. Eager is the person I've given a bit of a pass for a while but reading through I feel less good about.

UNVOTE:

In post 1790, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1788, Mimikyu wrote:
In post 1787, Dunnstral wrote:It's hard for me to imagine Zach or Eagersnake as scum... I think they're really towning it up this game

So either I'm wrong on one of them and have basically given them a free pass yesterday

Or I was wrong on Yakko

But either way, I think you're one of the scum
Ok well you do actually need to accept you were wrong on one of those people unless you are scum, so who is it?
I don't know. I'm not willing to lynch them over you.

I didn't ask if you were. I'm just interested to hear what else you have to say.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:36 am

Alright let me ask you all a question

Do you think the lynch on aristophanes was good for mafia yesterday?

Dunnstral · Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:36 am

In post 1792, Mimikyu wrote:Yakko and Dunnstral, although I don't think we can lynch Yakko today due to the tracker results

cute

Mimikyu · Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:38 am

In post 1790, Dunnstral wrote:Alright let me ask you all a question

Do you think the lynch on aristophanes was good for mafia yesterday?

Why would it not be good for mafia?

Dunnstral · Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:39 am

I'm asking if you think that lynch specifically was good for mafia; because aristo was clear of being mafia from a track result

eagerSnake · Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:40 am

In a way, I guess. I'm not sure I'm following your logic though. What's your conclusion?

eagerSnake · Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:42 am

The reason it's good for mafia is because

1) Mafia lives through the day
2) If we lynched someone else then the tracker would have 1 less option to target, giving him more chance to track mafia
3) He was already cleared of being mafia

But what's the conclusion?

Dunnstral · Post Post #1799 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:43 am

In post 1771, Creature wrote:

Votecount 3.3
[0] BTD6_Maker
[1] Mimikyu - Dunnstral
[0] Aubrey
[2] hi im Yakko - Zachstralkita, Aristophanes
[0] eagerSnake
[0] Zachstralkita
[0] Dunnstral

[5] Aristophanes - eagerSnake, BTD6_Maker, hi im Yakko, Aubrey, Mimikyu [LYNCH]

[0] Nolynch

Not voting:

There are 8 players alive, 5 votes is the majority.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-10-27 16:05:00)

In my mind, I'm really sure Zach isn't mafia, as I've individually kind of cleared him from being both mafia and werewolf

yakko isn't mafia barring shenanigans

Which means mafia is between eagerSnake and Mimikyu.