Open 657: JK9++ (Game over)

[Fountain of Dreams]

the fuck is Charizard's ISO
VOTE: Charloux

What don't you like about my top townread's iso?

[Gamma Emerald]

Meh, didn't even notice till now. The word Gamma just drew me in
Why are you concerned about the wagon?

This is almost a scumslip

Everybody who commented on my little sharade gets a townlean read from me
UNVOTE: MDS

Why??????
BS to the max

[MiniDeathStar]

Sorry, but I lol'd in real.
I followed that exchange between you guys, and it's just hilarious how ms keeps throwing problematic pairs together.
Imagining myself in a game with H (you know who, Mini) Never gonna happen.

I know right? But I wasn't kidding. I literally felt like crying. It's unbelievable how many emotions this game can bring out.

Nice to finally play with you by the way. ♥

Hi,

@Klingon

. Nice entrance. What's with the finger pointing?

@Fountain:

I kind of agree but I don't think he's lynchable just for that. If he keeps pushing the subject I may change my mind.

[MiniDeathStar]

@Gamma:

I don't see a scumslip?

[Fountain of Dreams]

Eh

Maybe you're right

After looking closely, those posts are pretty weird.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma:

I don't see a scumslip?

It feels like a cop-out for an inexcusable action.

[Fountain of Dreams]

Gamma is my new top town read.

Maybe. Idk.

[alban]

Spoiler:

Meh, didn't even notice till now. The word Gamma just drew me in
Why are you concerned about the wagon?

Why do you believe I'm concerned, Charloux? I've not unvoted now, have I?

Why do you believe I'm concerned, Charloux? I've not unvoted now, have I?

You didn't unvote

because

you didn't want to look concerned?

You didn't answer my question, you just asked another pointless and outlandish one of your own. I'm ending this now.

VOTE: Charloux

Serious vote.

VOTE: Minideathstar The question was answered, your "serious vote" is just you twisting the truth.

Why are you concerned about the wagon?

Implying I was ever concerned. Not answering what led you to that pre-assumed conclusion when I asked you to.

You didn't unvote

because

you didn't want to look concerned?

Now suddenly I didn't look concerned because I didn't unvote, because

if I had unvoted I'd have looked concerned

. Basically you just admitted that you made up my concern out of thin air.

And now you're lying that you had answered the question.

And OMGUS voting me and accusing me of "twisting the truth". That's rich.

I just got 2000% more confident in my vote on you.

16 and 17. My bad for not seeing the question properly

16 was just a comment on the wagon and an inside joke to Gamma. I tunneled him super hard in our last game together but his wagon never caught on. Now it did and really quick. I've actually never played a game where we got a person to L-2 on the first page. That's all 16 was about.

17 was me trying to softly nudge players out of RVS by asking them why they sheeped me.

Charloux, if you didn't see the question properly, why didn't you say that outright or ask me to clarify? Why did you lie that you had answered it and accuse me of twisting the truth?

Surprised by how quickly they mount pressure on each other and then deflate equally quickly.

Have played with Charl before. He plays like this. Mini's meta will point you to her earlier statements where she repeats that she can get defensive. But Mini, a q for you. You don't seem defensive here at all. Charl's question in 18 wasn't unreasonable. You don't require to be offensive/defensive to that though. Why were you offensive (even if it comes out of being defensive)?

[Fountain of Dreams]

Alban's town

[alban]

16 and 17. My bad for not seeing the question properly

Charl, really?
I wish you had stuck with your questioning.

[lane0168]

MDS

Lane's interrogation of you was awful.

Let's lynch him for that.

Explain why it's awful and why that makes me scum. It blows my mind how often people use reasons like theirs on page 3 of a game.

[Fountain of Dreams]

Because it looks like you were reaching and not attempting to actually find scum. Lack of vote doesn't help you either when you pointed out several scummy things from others.

[Fountain of Dreams]

MDS

Lane's interrogation of you was awful.

Let's lynch him for that.

Explain why it's awful and why that makes me scum. It blows my mind how often people use reasons like theirs on page 3 of a game.

I've page 1'd scum before. This is not a good defense from you.

[alban]

And Charl, I also wish you had stuck with your vote. Coz Mini's reply to you on Page 1 was indeed suspicious.

[Fountain of Dreams]

And Charl, I also wish you had stuck with your vote. Coz Mini's reply to you on Page 1 was indeed suspicious.

[Fountain of Dreams]

Alright alban seems like we've learned from our fire/ice goon ways. Who do you want to lynch?

[MiniDeathStar]

@alban:

I think the whole exchange with Charleux was because we misread each other's statements. I thought he was inventing some concern I supposedly had for Gamma and he thought I was trying to cover it up. His questions (especially about the not unvoting) felt really sketchy to me so I thought he could be fabricating a scumtell on me and that's why I pushed him so hard. As soon as I found out he was just mistaken my suspicion was gone.

I seriously had no second thoughts about that wagon. I literally only asked why people sheeped me to create discussion. RVS is annoying for me.

[Gamma Emerald]

@MDS: Why don't you like RVS? Why do you go along with it?

[alban]

I think Charloux is town.

Unsure about Mini, will need to investigate further.

Creature is playing too carefully too early, IMO.

VOTE: Creature

Gamma is my new top town read.

Maybe. Idk.

Alban's town

You are dispensing the reads pretty fast.
I don't know if you are trying to chum or this is how you play.
At least give reason behind the reads.

[Fountain of Dreams]

???

Pedit: it's how i play lol

[alban]

Alright alban seems like we've learned from our fire/ice goon ways. Who do you want to lynch?

Dunno.
Skimming the stuff right now for anything suspicious and asking questions.
After that, I will read all posts once again to make an opinion. And then the serious vote.

[Fountain of Dreams]

A lot of my reads are based on interrogations

I liked the interrogations that came from you, Gamma, and Charloux quite a bit.

[Fountain of Dreams]

And i don't like lane's.

[MiniDeathStar]

@Gamma:

Before I answer that question, why is suddently everyone so interested in what I do and what I like/dislike? I don't mind making my thought process transparent because I expect that from others to a degree, but I feel like if I reveal literally everything about the way I play then that would blur any genuine reactions I might elicit from people later on because they would know what to expect and what I'm looking for.

Okay, now to answer you: because RVS is random and jocular, and it's super easy to find an excuse for doing something during that stage. This is why I always try to end it fast and start placing serious votes. The longer RVS goes on the more difficult it is for me to get early reads.

[MiniDeathStar]

You are dispensing the reads pretty fast.
I don't know if you are trying to chum or this is how you play.
At least give reason behind the reads.

As far as I can tell, this is how Transcend plays. I don't get it either.