Open 657: JK9++ (Game over)

[Gamma Emerald]

Why not?
Please stop using all caps. Reads as if you are screaming.

that's the point. There is literally no reason someone would go out of their way to do that.

[MiniDeathStar]

Why not? Alban strikes me as a polite and considerate person to newbies.

Also I think he's way smarter than to scumslip about an avatar in the village thread when he could just have said that in their scum topic.

I still want to know why Klingon thought alban and Spade were scum together but didn't even list Spade as an FoS. I have a feeling I'll be saying Qapla' to somebody soon.

[Charloux]

I am pretty sure Gamma thought alban had scumslipped and decided it was a much stronger scumtell than whatever he had on you.
He even said he "hadn't forgotten about you". I don't understand how that makes his read on you

Fake

, bolded and capitalised.

I read "Hadn't forgotten about you Charizzard" as a joke, and not as serious as you make it out to be. What's the real truth is unknown because nothing stops him from saying either of "It was serious/a joke"

[Gamma Emerald]

Why not? Alban strikes me as a polite and considerate person to newbies.

Also I think he's way smarter than to scumslip about an avatar in the village thread when he could just have said that in their scum topic.

I still want to know why Klingon thought alban and Spade were scum together but didn't even list Spade as an FoS. I have a feeling I'll be saying Qapla' to somebody soon.

I don't think the scum team has daytalk.

[alban]

I like to be informed with whom I am playing, their meta, activity levels and newbie statuses. Preps me for what to expect. I thought everyone does it.
Specifically about Spade, I found that it's been only a week since he has joined. Someone helped me in my first game by asking me to get an avatar. I extended that help to him.
Good night.

[Charloux]

I like to be informed with whom I am playing, their meta, activity levels and newbie statuses.

Alban, this is on the boundary of weird and creepy.

[Gamma Emerald]

I like to be informed with whom I am playing, their meta, activity levels and newbie statuses. Preps me for what to expect. I thought everyone does it.
Specifically about Spade, I found that it's been only a week since he has joined. Someone helped me in my first game by asking me to get an avatar. I extended that help to him.
Good night.

Not helping yourself at all: that was my first thought, then I realized "town wouldn't care that much: scum would like to understand their buddies and enemies."
Also it's the first thing I thought of so no novelty points for you.

[Klingoncelt]

Why not? Alban strikes me as a polite and considerate person to newbies.

Also I think he's way smarter than to scumslip about an avatar in the village thread when he could just have said that in their scum topic.

I still want to know why Klingon thought alban and Spade were scum together but didn't even list Spade as an FoS. I have a feeling I'll be saying Qapla' to somebody soon.

I don't think the scum team has daytalk.

Doesn't matter. Usually they get a few hours in the PT to say hi.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why not? Alban strikes me as a polite and considerate person to newbies.

Also I think he's way smarter than to scumslip about an avatar in the village thread when he could just have said that in their scum topic.

I still want to know why Klingon thought alban and Spade were scum together but didn't even list Spade as an FoS. I have a feeling I'll be saying Qapla' to somebody soon.

I don't think the scum team has daytalk.

Doesn't matter. Usually they get a few hours in the PT to say hi.

They get whatever time they have before enough confirm to start the game.

[Klingoncelt]

Why not? Alban strikes me as a polite and considerate person to newbies.

Also I think he's way smarter than to scumslip about an avatar in the village thread when he could just have said that in their scum topic.

I still want to know why Klingon thought alban and Spade were scum together but didn't even list Spade as an FoS. I have a feeling I'll be saying Qapla' to somebody soon.

I asked if Spade had a post deleted, which would have explained the missing avatar. I was waiting for a response.

[Klingoncelt]

I like to be informed with whom I am playing, their meta, activity levels and newbie statuses.

Alban, this is on the boundary of weird and creepy.

If I don't know a player I'll go through their profile ISO to pick up clues on their playstyle as different alignments.

I will not, however take time to note whether or not they have an avi.

[Randomnamechange]

VC 1.2

lane0168 - Fountain of Dreams
Klingoncelt – L-7
Tiger Moth - L-7
Gamma Emerald - L-6 - Alban
Fountain of Dreams - Lane0168, Secret Agent Jin
alban - Gamma Emerald
Charloux - L-7
Kop - L-7
MiniDeathStar - L-5 - Tiger Moth,
Creature - L-7
Secret Agent Jin - L-7
bangthemafia - L-7
Spade_Ace - L-7

(expired on 2016-11-20 12:10:00)

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey alban, I see you're still voting me!

Explain.

[Spade_Ace]

Wow. So much activity on my name, without me having even posted a single message. By the way, this is my first game in this forum. Have played offline games as well as on an some Whatsapp forums. Disclaimer: I know alban and bangthemafia from outside this forum. They know my style of play very well. Alban probably was just helping me get adjusted by pointing out about the profile pic. Maybe, the reason he didnt mention about us knowing each other, was that he thought i would have preferred otherwise. I dont think that makes a difference and it still doesn't aquit him as a scum in my mind.
@alban its amazing how you always manage to throw suspicion on me. Though, in ur defence u were probably trying to help me here.

[Fountain of Dreams]

Any reads, Spade_Ace?

I didn't think alban noticing you didn't have an avatar was a scumslip, btw.

[alban]

This is for everyone who feels checking other players' profiles is suspicious:
That is how I normally play. I like to profile and then see if the player is fitting it. It's less about the game, more like a human study. To see if people behave like you assumed they would.
Sorry to disappoint you. But I am not you, so you can't really expect me to behave like you. These personalised posts like 'if I were a scum, I wouldn't have done this...' or 'as a town, I do this...'...like 160 don't hold much promise.
I can understand if you are confused due to this and find me suspicious. There are players in this game who have played with me when I was a town as well as when I was a mafia. They can elaborate on my playing style.

P-edit: @Spade: They are not even suspecting you. So, chill. And I wasn't 'probably' trying to help you. I was indeed helping you. I expect you to be a bit more gracious about it though.

[MiniDeathStar]

Now that I have had time to actually read stuff and focus on the game, I'll give some preliminary reads.

I think alban is town. This looks like his townplay. Also I kind of agree with what he's saying. The profile picture thingy is just a silly accusation to make.

I don't know about Fountain. Hard to meta that

thing

(sorry, hydras creep me out), but the Transcend head is playing noticeably different than I remember. (Thank god for that, lol!) Tbh I like this new Transcend a looot better as a person. But the whole package known as Fountain is null right now.

Gamma seems town but I'll need to see more.

Klingon, idk. Something's off about that lady. Her reads look very forced.

Charloux could go either way. A lot of people think his interrogation of me was well-founded, and I could maybe get behind that if I also thought the me was concerned about Gamma on page 1. But the thing is, mafia!Charlie could just have seen an opportunity to scumread me and seized it, then dropped it when it stalled. Sure, it's a bit of a stretch but it still makes me reluctant to pay him some TownCred coins just yet. Call me paranoid. Also I didn't like his "FoS switch" accusation on Gamma.

Question for

@Tiger moth

- have you played any games on mafiascum or other forums before?

I don't think I have anything to say about the rest right now.


Finally there's this fellow:

Really, I wasn't actually trying to find scum.

If you weren't trying to find scum, what exactly were you trying to do? Psychoanalyse me? What was that whole bad cop act about?

And yet you say I pointed out several scummy things from others. This is a huge contradiction.

That contradiction is coming from you. Fountain thought you were scumhunting, *you* are saying you weren't. So again, what were you doing?

VOTE: lane0168

My turn to be the bad cop. Gamma can tell you all about it.

[Fountain of Dreams]

Other head thinks Lane might be town, but I disagree a little bit.

He's posted in our hydra PT but not in this thread.

I'm sure he will eventually.

For now, I want my vote on him.

Kling is probably just really bad town again.

[Fountain of Dreams]

But I refuse to townread Kling, ever.

[MiniDeathStar]

Oh wait. I kind of missed the context in lane's post. The contradiction actually referred to the thing he was quoting from Fountain. Never mind that part then.

UNVOTE: lane0168

I would still like to know what the interrogation was about though, if it wasn't scumhunting.

[lane0168]

Because it looks like you were reaching and not attempting to actually find scum. Lack of vote doesn't help you either when you pointed out several scummy things from others.

Really, I wasn't actually trying to find scum. And yet you say I pointed out several scummy things from others. This is a huge contradiction. I don't have to vote for shit if I don't want to. I'll vote when I'm ready. I'm ready now. Tell me why the lack of vote is scummy too. Why do scum point out scummy things and not vote?

VOTE: fountain

I was scum hunting. I was responding to fountain. You would've understood it maybe if I had an eyeroll at the end of it.

Maybe if you use the whole quote it will be easier mini. Fountain said I wasn't attempting to actually find scum. Then in the same breath says I pointed out several scummy things. That's the contradiction

[MiniDeathStar]

Yeah, I got that. It totally makes sense now. Sorry.

[lane0168]

No biggie, it's hard to catch tone in text sometimes

[lane0168]

So was I not scum hunting? Or pointing out several scummy things? What do you think of fountain contradicting himself?

[MiniDeathStar]

Well, you certainly had the whole 'interrogation-room, faulty-light-fixtures, fist-slamming, barking-questions' crime procedural drama going on. Did you manage to get a read on me amidst all that? I can't really say for sure if you were scumhunting or not, everyone scumhunts in her own way, what matters is whether it works or not. Fountain thinks you were reaching (like, fake scumhunting). I was your suspect so I'm obviously biased. I personally think the whole idea that I was concerned about Gamma was ridiculous to begin with, but it seems like a few people disagree with me. That's why I'm giving you (and Tiger moth and alban and Charloux) the benefit of the doubt. But you are the one who questioned me so it's up to you to say whether you liked my reactions or not and whether you think I'm scum.