Micro 657: Vanillite Mafia (Game Over!)

[shannon]

The only reason a townie should hammer another townie is if they are genuinely mistaken and think that the other townie is scum.

[Dark Horse]

Hammering right now is incredibly anti town because half the town has yet to make any meaningful contributions
If there was someone at L-1 right now and a townie quickhammered I'd never want to play mafia with that townie again

[shannon]

Maybe if we're quiet for a while someone else will say something

[Aeronaut]

She hasn't said anything that changes my opinion. How are you getting a strong town vibe

Ok, so Dark Horse is still harping on about shannon and the pros and cons of putting someone at L-1 right now, complaining that we need to see more of the day first, but while simultaneously contributing nothing but D1 theory play.

Meanwhile, half the game is mute.

So, I'm going to ask you for the second time, do you have reads besides Shannon?

[Aeronaut]

VOTE: Algebra

You also have contributed nothing so far besides wanting to lynch flames for lurking. What do you think about the game right now?

[Flames682]

Reading later today

[Aeronaut]

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[Aeronaut]

I guess I assumed that Flames was gonna get replaced, but if he's back, I'd love to hear what you have to say also

[Dark Horse]

Aeronaut what are your reads

[Dark Horse]

And if you answer "nothing solid" then you have no right to say that i'm tunneling

[Aeronaut]

Flames682 - Null
ThinkBig - Null
Creature - NullTown
Algebra - Lean Scum
Shannon - Town
Dark Horse - Scum

[Aeronaut]

If you're curious how my scale works, it goes

ConfScum

>>

Scum

>>

Lean Scum

>>

NullScum

>>Null>>

Nulltown

>>

Lean Town

>>

Town

>>

Conftown

[Dark Horse]

There you go, I was wondering how long it was going to take for you to come out and actually say that I'm scum. Trying to discredit me only to vote algebra was a bad move

Creature's town, thinkbig's slightly town

So I asked you this before, why is shannon town? It's annoying that instead of answering this you've tried to discredit my push instead. The fact that you asked me to clarify the hammering stuff, and then then tried attacking me for clarifying hammering stuff was terrible.

[Aeronaut]

Oh, I thought I'd answered that question before.

Shannon seems town to me, because as someone who has ICed and SEed and in general been in a lot of Newbie games, her cautiousness and approach to the game screams newtown to me. It's also exactly how I acted in my first few games as town, so I guess that gives me positive vibes from here. As you can probably imply, when someone comes in and started pushing a new player that looks town, using bullshit reasons looks shady as fuck to me.

To me, you just look like you're trying to look busy, which is also something that a few players are doing here. They difference is that you continue to divert away from giving me any sort of reads and are just like SHANNON IS SCUM BECAUSE SHE'S TOO CAUTIOUS!!!, when at the same time you're the one telling everyone that we shouldn't be putting anyone to L-1 because "we need more day discussion!"

Which is something I would normally agree with, but the fact that you said that, and then continued pushing the same person in posts such as "vote shannon, she's scum" with no other real content kind of makes me thing that you're posting to us about why we should have MORE DISCUSSION in an effort to look like town.

[Dark Horse]

PS - I agree with you about scum being more fun to play, but hopefully neither of us is having a fun game today and we're both Team Town.

My biggest problem with shannon comes with how forced this line feels. Yeah, I can see a noob town doing "fwiw I have no reads right now," but this in particular comes off as incredibly unnatural.

The whole reason why it seems like I'm "tunneling" shannon is that it seems like most of the people who are actually posting in this town are putting zero commitment in their votes. That's why it felt like an RVS stage for so long. You want to get out of RVS? You have to actually try to get the game moving, which is what I did. I think she's scum, and by actually sticking on her instead of trying to pressure inactives like some other people here I was able to give us some actual meaningful discussion

I didn't give you my reads earlier because town reads aren't as important in this stage of the game.

And of course, there's only so much I can do to get the game moving. For this game to really take off we need opinions from people like algebra and thinkbig, who have yet to take any meaningful stances.

[Aeronaut]

Town reads are incredibly important at any stage of the game. Which players do you read as town?

[Dark Horse]

Creature's town, thinkbig's slightly town

I felt like creature was also making an effort to get past RVS, and I liked thinkbig's quickhammer question

[algebra]

Dark horse is town

[Dark Horse]

Dark horse is town

Are you going to say anything else

[algebra]

your mom

I dislike sharing my minor reads, and my other thoughts are minor

[shannon]

PS - I agree with you about scum being more fun to play, but hopefully neither of us is having a fun game today and we're both Team Town.

My biggest problem with shannon comes with how forced this line feels. Yeah, I can see a noob town doing "fwiw I have no reads right now," but this in particular comes off as incredibly unnatural.

That's

what your whole read is about? Yeah, it's unnatural, I think I've said elsewhere that I struggle with social stuff and I'm still learning the 'script' for mafia. My whole life feels unnatural, I have to learn responses that are appropriate. It's NAI at best and something I'd try to cover up more as scum at worst.

[shannon]

@Aeronaut's 88 - I didn't realise I was being cautious. This is just how I am, since I got in trouble my very first game for tunneling someone who turned out to be town, and then tunneling the person they were arguing with, who turned out to be the doc.

[Aristophanes]

VC 1.4

Shannon

(2): Flames682, Dark Horse

Algebra

(2): Creature, Aeronaut

Creature

(1): ThinkBig

Flames682

(1): Algebra

Dark Horse

(1): Shannon

Not Voting

(0): Nobody!! =D

With 7 people alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.
D1 will end

Nov 17/16

or in

(expired on 2016-11-17 07:30:00)

Mod Notes:

ThinkBig is being prodded.

I missed his V/la. Prod rescinded.

[Creature]

Leaning on Flames + ThinkBig (algebra as third candidate), but not sure if both scum would lurk like hell.

[algebra]

Im with a thinkbig wagonVOTE: thinkbig