In post 178, Kop wrote:Page one
3 votes pretty much straight away. Not a great deal to comment on those 3 votes since it's RVS, but it's worth something noting down for future use because even though it's RVS, sometimes scum find good enough reasons to have a slight distance of team mates by voting in such ways, as it's easy to do.
Really? I've never paid attention to RVS votes after an RVS ended.
And scum tend to try forge partnerships with town, possible creating pockets for town to slide into. Look at the whole partnership that has come from the whole RVS, creating misunderstandings, then boiled from there, to now on page four possible buddying from FOD and MDS.
Two things.
1) Buddying isn't a scumtell, especially this early and this minor.
2) I wasn't buddying Fountain. I assume you refer to their "let's lynch him?" That's pretty one-sided buddying. Where did *I* buddy anyone?
Not a good scum tell I know or may not even make sense in the manner I'm explaining it, but It's something I'm going to keep a good eye on, I think town reads early game are thrown around far too easily, and it can be easy for scum to forge that since they know who town are. So for the first few pages, FoS on MDS and Fountain of dreams.
Fountain's one head is Transcend, who as far as I can tell always dispenses reads like church flyers. IME this is not alignment indicative of him.
As for me, I'm usually extremely transparent with my thoughts and reads, even if they are weak. If you haven't seen it already, you will soon.
Fountain, I may have missed the post of you explaining your vote on spade then a full U turn to go back onto Gamma, what was that all about?
I think this was already discussed earlier and they said it was to create a wagon. I'd let them answer instead of me, but they aren't exactly known for answering questions.
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FOD, what makes you think Charloux is town? What gives you that impression that he is town from the misunderstanding posts he made early on? How would you class a tunnel town motivated?
I, too, would like to know, but like I said above...
I disagree with your creature point of him being too careful. During RVS posts and votes come in fairly quick if everyone is on, and putting a wagon at L-1 when random votes are flying all over, it's easy for someone to jump in put a vote on someone (who may have gone onto L-1 as he is typing that vote out, and he could easily hammer if he fails to read the preview box. I don't see any scum motivation in that for you to vote for him, based on that.
FOD, in post 28 you were unsure of MDS and needed to investigate more. You didn't investigate up until you voted for him in post #42, after the little back and forth with Creature who you were voting for him, what made you turn around?
*cough* I'm female.
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Lane, regardless if those 2 quotes show concern or not, she wanted to find out what reasons/motivations for them voting after her, yeah it's RVS, but there has to be a reason and whether it's RVS/serious/previous encounters etc. She will only find that by asking questions, I couldn't care less if it shows concern or not. Or am I reading it all wrong. If so, I apoligise.
I was slightly curious why they chose to sheep me over Spade's wagon, but mostly I was just trying to create discussion and get out of RVS. It was a random question.
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Didn't see much worth commenting on.
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Nothing catching either, apart from that buddying as stated earlier in page one. That makes me nervous.
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MDS Post #116 RVS is a good tool to use, in my honest opinion. It sometimes can be used a indicator to things, get to know how people handle things etc etc, I've seen scum try set the tone early on the game and try maintain the same mentality than joining into it. Setting the tone, creating patterns, making pockets, creating avenues and just allowing the town to be sucked in, is something scum would like to do, rather than joining on town, makes more suspicion jumping on. . (However that is obviously dependant on how experienced that scum team are.) It can't all be used as 100% concrete facts.
Thanks, all that tells me is that RVS is useful to scum. And I'm not scum, soooo... Can I continue hating it now?
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Lane post #131 for some strange little reason, I see town frustration. Mainly gut feeling.
Erhm, I can plausibly see both town!lane and mafia!lane getting frustrated at that.
Charloux post #141, how going from one scum read to another thing being brought up, how does that make it fake? It could be possibly he sees something bigger than you right now (albeit brought up by kingoncelt), doesn't make his read on you, fake.
Reminder: you can use [pøst]#141[/post] tags to make it a hyperlink. I had to dig through the pages to find those two posts. Just something to keep in mind in future, thanks.
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(sorry about the umlaut, idk how to parse BB code here)
Also, I already asked him that same question.
"Btw i'm 90% certain that this is Lane's town game. He seems to like being unpleasant as town when pushing hard. Or am i wrong?"
Your 90 % sure, but what is with the question on the end? What answer you aiming for here?
I think that's a bit far-fetched but points for the effort.
That's where am pretty much up too, the last two pages will have to come tomorrow.