Open 657: JK9++ (Game over)

[Creature]

Btw, Fountain of Dreams is a hydra of Transcend and who?

[Creature]

MiniDeathStar and Charloux can also be town I guess.

[Creature]

We're Transcend and Tenshii.

Nvm

[Creature]

Page 6

Readability considerably decreased

[Creature]

Hell I give up

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Creature

[Creature]

on trying to get reads on everyone

[MiniDeathStar]

@Klingoncelt:

I never force reads. Anytime someone says I have a post that seems fake or forced, they're lying, regardless of my alignment.

You mean you genuinely 'scumread' people as mafia? I don't buy that.

I can see I was wrong about you, too:

She can't possibly expect anyone to sheep those votes right now.

Please help me lynch Alban today.

In which case, what was up with this?

I'm a shit player on Day1, or at least that's my reputation. I expect to be ignored. So rather than waste my time trying to start wagons or anything I'll just point fingers today.

Here's you admitting you're a shit player on Day 1, yet you think I'm scum for doubting your reads and ignoring you. You're also admitting you wouldn't "waste your time trying to start wagons", but half your posts are you wasting your time trying to start an alban wagon.

Literally the only reason I'm townreading you right now is because I think your strategy is horrible scum play. But you know what? It's also horrible town play. Please pull it together or at least stop looking so scummy.

Now, as I was *saying*...

@lane0168

and

Gamma:

Can we not bring up RVS stuff again? That's like the most random, NAI thing that ever happens in games. We're 13 pages in right now, I'm pretty sure there are more significant tells you can attach yourselves to.

Also Creature wagon is probably bad. He isn't going to improve his game just because people are voting him. Do you think he's actually scum?

@bangthemafia:

At first I also thought Jin was scared that he bit off more than he could chew, but I now think another possible explanation is that he just didn't know how else to say that he was mistaken. I've only known him for a little but this strikes me more as a personality trait than alignment indicative. Like, it makes sense both as a panicked scum move and a regretful town move for him so I'd say it's null.

I'll need to see more of him before I form an opinion.

@Creature:

That... was your best? Uhm, okay. I would ask you to do the best of somebody better but nobody would get the reference. If you can't cope with the game, why don't you just replace out? I don't think you're helping either alignment right now.

@Charloux:

Thoughts on Gamma? You left him out of your list. Also why is Klingon your scummiest read?

@Fountain of Dreams:

I really think you should start answering people's questions. Almost nobody can read you right now and those who can think you're scum. Why should anyone trust your judgement?


Still waiting on catchup from

alban

and

Kop

.

Tiger moth

needs to respond properly or I'm voting her. I can't let her get away with that kind of posts any longer.

[Gamma Emerald]

RVS can be AI
You just need flips

[Creature]

Nah, not replacing out, maybe I can still get reads.

[MiniDeathStar]

Has anyone noticed how Fountain keeps tacitly defending me by attacking the people who FoS me, yet thinks I'm a null read? Don't you think that's a little weird? I think it's weird.

[Creature]

I wonder if the Tenshii head actually posted.

[MiniDeathStar]

RVS can be AI
You just need flips

AI how? Can you use an example from this game? I can't think of anything that can't be WIFOMed to hell.

[Gamma Emerald]

Let's put a fork in the road for everyone else then.

VOTE: Spade_Ace

PEDIT: Never mind.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

L-3.

This: if Spade Ace flips scum this could be fake pressuring a scumbuddy

[MiniDeathStar]

I mean, it *could* be, but that's a bit of a stretch. It could also be totally random.

Fountain has been for-real pressuring Spade_Ace for a while now. Why are you stuck on the RVS vote in particular?

[Spade_Ace]

Let's put a fork in the road for everyone else then.

VOTE: Spade_Ace

PEDIT: Never mind.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

L-3.

This: if Spade Ace flips scum this could be fake pressuring a scumbuddy

What I realised is this is what probably happened. One head voted for me and the other head voted for gamma. The second head then saw the other vote and modified his comment with a PEDIT

[Spade_Ace]

Post 7, 11 and 15.

[Gamma Emerald]

Tenshii hadn't posted by then

[Spade_Ace]

Ohhhhh okay... I guess I don't know how to check which head posted then.

[Gamma Emerald]

Normally hydras sign their posts
They don't
Idk why

[Creature]

Transcend used to sign his posts, not sure why he isn't doing it here.

[Spade_Ace]

Has anyone noticed how Fountain keeps tacitly defending me by attacking the people who FoS me, yet thinks I'm a null read? Don't you think that's a little weird? I think it's weird.

Not sure about that. He has already voted for you once. And for that matter has voted for 8 of the 12 players excluding him in this game. He has also voted for people who think you are town too.

[Spade_Ace]

@MDS what makes you think he was defending you?

[Gamma Emerald]

Let's put a fork in the road for everyone else then.

VOTE: Spade_Ace

PEDIT: Never mind.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

L-3.

This: if Spade Ace flips scum this could be fake pressuring a scumbuddy

What I realised is this is what probably happened. One head voted for me and the other head voted for gamma. The second head then saw the other vote and modified his comment with a PEDIT

Also: they'd already voted Spade
I'm fine lynching either rn tbh

[Spade_Ace]

@gamma sorry didn't get what you meant in the above post