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[Titus]

Mhsmith and I are in a 1 v 1. While scumhunting elsewhere is helpful, either he or I will be the lynch today.

That says nothing about the validity or invalidity of your thoughts on Impoetic, but they are GS cleared. Common sense says he's not scum as logically he'd be the one to CC me rather than mhsmith.

[JaeReed]

Spoiler:

[vote|impoe[/vote] BATTORU BATTORU

VOTE: cloudkicker

sad you rolled scum

Interesting since cloud did indeed roll scum.

Was that a "call me townie I scumread someone" play?

Can we vote the mafia cloudkicker for misspelling and misusing haiku in one go? And for fosing someone fos having 3 exclamation points but not wanting to be fosed for his post with about as much meaning to it as 3 exclamation points?

Here they shitpost scum read a player who later flips scum. Possibly making them and their scum bud look townie for it?

VOTE: burgerking

Naked vote on the leading wagon

VOTE: L.U.V.

i'll be a sheep because my SR was wrong

That scum read was on me. At the time I was happy enough for the good word but what I had posted at that point was pretty much NAI. They were quick to white knight me.

Impoetic:

Can you explain what you meant when you said your "sr was wrong"?

my sr on hermie was wrong based on the recent posts from him


cloud I was literally explaining that I could be wrong on transcend as I ALWAYS DO because I'm NOT A CONFIDENT PLAYER

Preparing for a town flip? Covering their bases?

mmmm yeah I'm gonna end up voting burgerking but preferably not until the VC + his claim which my confirmation bias lens will probably take as scummy no matter what -- like I can't see a scenario in which I don't -- but... should still hapepn.
.
also i feel bad for isping and im gonna iso the guy since there's an actual wagon here

otherwise I might have been wrong on hermie. Hmmmmmm

They voted the low hanging fruit wagon and threw shade at me with out perusing it any farther than that. Why?

please can i be deconfirmed as town

I'll do my best.







My mass quotes utterly suck but I do want people to look at Impoetics iso. I just get a bad vibe from them. I'm not gonna vote them right now because we have been warned to be careful with votes and I want to hear other people's thoughts on this. But I do intend to vote this if a more experienced player or 2 thinks it worth while.

Holy crap this is so scum.

1st: Our RVS phase lasted forever in this game. That was part of RVS shitposting.
2nd: Even you admit we were still in the shitposting phase. Still not much to read into it aside from tone, which many people who know Impo have said her tone was good at that point.
3rd: Whatever. I'm not bothering to go back and fact check on whether that was the leading wagon. Why are naked votes scummy?
4th & 5th: Actually, I believe I was also on the fence about you and decided you were town after that particular batch of posts and Transcend's defense of you. If you're going to call out someone for whiteknighting you? Yeah, that would be Transcend. Also, the 5th one is especially interesting because it's part of an interaction with Cloud that should leave no doubt that she's not a partner with him. Yet you conveniently ignored that.
6th: Maybe because you looked like a prime scumspect?
7th: You can't deconfirm her as town. You just pushed on someone who is pretty much mod confirmed town. CCC gave us his results as clearly as if he'd written in thread "I checked Impoetic as the town gunsmith and found her to not have a gun." and in fact, that is exactly why he died.

[JaeReed]

NO ONE PUSHES ON MY CONFTOWN IMPO >=(

[Impoetic]

Impoetic is cleared by CCC's gunsmith shot. Not sure what to make of that derpclear attempt; obviously scum would 100% know that Impo was cleared (unless we're truly dealing with lol wolves), so if Hermie genuinely didn't know, then it's a legit derpclear. The problem I have is, I'm skeptical Hermie didn't now, given the seeming effort he made to re-read the thread in order to pick out specific Impo quotes.

specifically, specific impo quotes impo made in response to being cleared.

[JaeReed]

Impoetic is cleared by CCC's gunsmith shot. Not sure what to make of that derpclear attempt; obviously scum would 100% know that Impo was cleared (unless we're truly dealing with lol wolves), so if Hermie genuinely didn't know, then it's a legit derpclear. The problem I have is, I'm skeptical Hermie didn't now, given the seeming effort he made to re-read the thread in order to pick out specific Impo quotes.

Pet theory:

A good scum player comes in and starts coaching Hermie.
Something along the lines of "you need to make a push and start interacting more with the thread. ISO someone and point out posts of theirs that you think could be scummy."
Hermie does just that. Doesn't connect the dots as to WHY Impo has been called conftown since D3.

Am I high or is this plausible?

[Titus]

Does Hermie normally selectively respond? I get the feeling they are dodging commenting on the 1 v 1 but I wanted to try a softer angle as to get them to let their guard down as scum. That's gone now.

[JaeReed]

Once we get the scum in the doc claims I 100% want Hermie lynched. No questions. Just do it.

[JaeReed]

Does Hermie normally selectively respond? I get the feeling they are dodging commenting on the 1 v 1 but I wanted to try a softer angle as to get them to let their guard down as scum. That's gone now.

Feel free to ISO him. There's not much there I think? His votes on the lynch wagons have always been off too.

[Titus]

Impoetic is cleared by CCC's gunsmith shot. Not sure what to make of that derpclear attempt; obviously scum would 100% know that Impo was cleared (unless we're truly dealing with lol wolves), so if Hermie genuinely didn't know, then it's a legit derpclear. The problem I have is, I'm skeptical Hermie didn't now, given the seeming effort he made to re-read the thread in order to pick out specific Impo quotes.

Pet theory:

A good scum player comes in and starts coaching Hermie.
Something along the lines of "you need to make a push and start interacting more with the thread. ISO someone and point out posts of theirs that you think could be scummy."
Hermie does just that. Doesn't connect the dots as to WHY Impo has been called conftown since D3.

Am I high or is this plausible?

It would be bad coaching.

A good coach tells them how to push. I have staged a few scumhunts.

It's bad coach, Derp town, or Hermie is really green.

[Titus]

*green in context there means new

[mhsmith0]

meh, i'll look back to see if titus/hermie make sense together. def. not tongiht though.

[Titus]

Once we get the scum in the doc claims I 100% want Hermie lynched. No questions. Just do it.

If we lynch mhsmith first, I would recommend it.

If we mislynch me first, you'd be in lylo and prone to manipulation.

[Hermie]

Who are your few good town reads?

mhsmith0 and Impoetic.

Talk through Impo a bit? What in particular have you seen from her to make her a solid town read? I've been kind of null on her, though honestly I haven't especially focused there so I could have just missed something important.

She's Town because she has empty hands.

...yeah, this won't mean anything yet. If it becomes necessary - that is, if either me or Impoetic are in serious danger of a lynch - then I can go into more detail. If I'm killed by scum, then this post should suddenly make sense, and you'll know everything I know.

I found it. Okay do what you want I'm an idiot.


I looked up gunsmith just now to even see what it was.

[Titus]

meh, i'll look back to see if titus/hermie make sense together. def. not tongiht though.

What are your thoughts on their play? You made a big deal about not having narrow focus and now you avoid comments on Hermie.

[Titus]

Who are your few good town reads?

mhsmith0 and Impoetic.

Talk through Impo a bit? What in particular have you seen from her to make her a solid town read? I've been kind of null on her, though honestly I haven't especially focused there so I could have just missed something important.

She's Town because she has empty hands.

...yeah, this won't mean anything yet. If it becomes necessary - that is, if either me or Impoetic are in serious danger of a lynch - then I can go into more detail. If I'm killed by scum, then this post should suddenly make sense, and you'll know everything I know.

I found it. Okay do what you want I'm an idiot.


I looked up gunsmith just now to even see what it was.

Just where are you up to allegedly?

[JaeReed]

Spoiler:

Okay so I am trying to catch up. I really am not picking anything up on my gut radar other than burger is spoiling for a fight and everyone claims lil Uzi is scum. Transcend seems to be town so I guess VOTE: lil Uzi

Spoiler:

Hey Hermie and rb!

VOTE: gerryoat

You better not be Team Moon!

This game is going to be a pain to reread.

I'm colorblind.

Btw io is mafia and i know for sure because i am a day cop nk-immune miller ascetic mason

Sounds sexy.

I'm colorblind.

Is this in answer to "did you get a red role pm"? Or something else?

Yep, I believe so.

if luv flips town i will donate a kidney to charity

IM THAT SURE HE WILL FLIP SCUM

I'll put a picture of your face on a billboard when I flip town

I have no idea what GT means. Translation?

How old are you Cloud?

How old are you Cloud?

He's 65

Are you Cloud?

How old are you Cloud?

He's 65

Are you Cloud?

He's my father (adopted, of course)

He's a little too old for you to still be answering for him.

Hey Hermie and rb!

VOTE: gerryoat

You better not be Team Moon!

what's team moon is that what the mafia team is called? i genuinely don't see where this is listed if it is.

Yeah I heard that's what they call themselves. Wanna sheep me?

I was just told this game started and then told not to post so guess what I'm gonna do? POST. OBNOXIOUS. ONE-LINERS. REPEATEDLY.

Who told you not to post?

Hey luv, did u read about gargamels towns ?

Nah, I couldn't find it on the wiki so I just assumed you were trolling. Sounds like something out of a cartoon though.

How old are you Cloud?

He's 65

Are you Cloud?

He's my father (adopted, of course)

He's a little too old for you to still be answering for him.

No, no, that's fair. However, since you now realize he's my father you should also realize that you've won $100 million in the secret lottery. To collect you need to give me all of your personal banking information. You can pm me or post it in thread. Don't worry, this will be 100% secure for you.

I'm already rich sir, but thank you for the offer!

Would you sell your soul for the answers? That is the question my friend.

VOTE: Impoetic

I am aware that it looks like a dumbtell and it sort of was in that I realized team moon was probably something else before posting it, but decided to post it anyway.

And you did this because ___?

why not? It was a quirky, fun entrance that somewhat proved my alignment in that I probably wouldn't have come up with such a weird dumbtell as scum, and it got reactions. I don't really know what to think of transcend's reaction, but it did get reactions.

so, tldr: idrc

I also haven't read up yet and am multitasking ATM so excuse the late response.

Why were you so focused on proving your alignment rather than looking for scum?

VOTE: Impoetic

I am aware that it looks like a dumbtell and it sort of was in that I realized team moon was probably something else before posting it, but decided to post it anyway.

And you did this because ___?

why not? It was a quirky, fun entrance that somewhat proved my alignment in that I probably wouldn't have come up with such a weird dumbtell as scum, and it got reactions. I don't really know what to think of transcend's reaction, but it did get reactions.

so, tldr: idrc

I also haven't read up yet and am multitasking ATM so excuse the late response.

Why were you so focused on proving your alignment rather than looking for scum?

Indoor voices fam', indoor voices.

Indoor voices fam', indoor voices.

VOTE: Impoetic

I am aware that it looks like a dumbtell and it sort of was in that I realized team moon was probably something else before posting it, but decided to post it anyway.

And you did this because ___?

why not? It was a quirky, fun entrance that somewhat proved my alignment in that I probably wouldn't have come up with such a weird dumbtell as scum, and it got reactions. I don't really know what to think of transcend's reaction, but it did get reactions.

so, tldr: idrc

I also haven't read up yet and am multitasking ATM so excuse the late response.

Why were you so focused on proving your alignment rather than looking for scum?

I wasn't, I just posted it because i could and that's part of my goal as town. It was a genuine thought I genuinely had, it was mildly amusing and it helped me show I was town, so I posted it despite realizing it was stupid.

Why is it so hard for you to grasp that? This seems like nitpicking rather than genuine confusion. Still multitasking so I can't look closer to verify that theory.

I just don't see a need for you to try show the rest of the town that you're town if you're town.

Your emphasis on genuine worries me as well.

Woah, tounge twister.

Am I tripping right now? Are there two Io's?

Smells like some next level reaction testing

Tuxedo cats for the win.

I don't like his posts and i don't think his progression through the game is genuine.

Have a great day Mr dude that tricked me in wakes role madness.

Opinions! How many of us have them?

Tone feels off too

Pedit: no

Tone would imply we've played together before no?

Tone feels off too

Pedit: no

Tone would imply we've played together before no?

No and i don't use meta when i tone read them

Why wouldn't it? You're basically implying I sound different from normal which doesn't make sense since we don't know each other.

What's the tone of a basic town? What's the definition of a basic town?

I can understand if you said you didn't like my tone or said it made you feel uncomfortable, but you said my tone felt off. Your choice of words my friend.

What's the tone of a basic town? What's the definition of a basic town?

I can understand if you said you didn't like my tone or said it made you feel uncomfortable, but you said my tone felt off. Your choice of words my friend.

It's hard to explain how i tone read people

But it's proven to work each time i do it.

Noted.

I got a couple of reads but I definitely need to check the shelfs again.

Logic and reasoning seem like my thing, at least at the moment.

Yeah I think I'm cool with this for now

(burgerking, CCC, JaeReed, rb)
(Cloudkicker, gerryoat, Hermie, Impoetic, VWXYZ)
(mhsmith0, Transcend)

Oh I forgot Io, probably null for me but have to reread her.

Guess why and I might say.

I liked his questioning of the Transcend scum read me which I had assume was a joke for like the longest time.

Yeah.

This isn't town.

I refuse to believe that you brushed my vote off on you as a joke.

Okay.

And at no point did you suspect it might very well be an easy buddying/pocketing play, or just distancing his reads when he has a teammate on you? Seriously that's incredibly lazy work there.

No I choose not to because I'm not going to psyche myself out and I don't see how questioning a read is buddying.

So you have a lazy town read on ccc for defending you. Are your other town/scum reads similarly lazy, or is there any meat behind the other ones?

How was questioning a read at that point in the game defending me? I was nowhere in danger of being lynched.

And yeah they're lazy, it's Day 1.

Oh look I questioned your scum read of transcend that must make me conf!town in your eyes now

I have not once said the words confirmed and town in the same sentence until now.

So you have a lazy town read on ccc for defending you. Are your other town/scum reads similarly lazy, or is there any meat behind the other ones?

How was questioning a read at that point in the game defending me? I was nowhere in danger of being lynched.

And yeah they're lazy, it's Day 1.

Oh look I questioned your scum read of transcend that must make me conf!town in your eyes now

I have not once said the words confirmed and town in the same sentence until now.

So you have a lazy town read on ccc for defending you. Are your other town/scum reads similarly lazy, or is there any meat behind the other ones?

How was questioning a read at that point in the game defending me? I was nowhere in danger of being lynched.

And yeah they're lazy, it's Day 1.

Do you actually believe in any of the reads you've stated or is it all weak leans backed up by basically air?

You think you need to be near lynch for someone to defend you?

Oh look I questioned your scum read of transcend that must make me conf!town in your eyes now

I have not once said the words confirmed and town in the same sentence until now.

So you nitpick on my wording instead of the actual point about your town reads seeming to be super cheap?

I do, for now. They can always change though.

No, but you're not telling me how is questioning a read defending me. Questioning is expressing doubt, not protecting or shielding one from attacks.

I'm just trying to understand how you're taking my town reads as confirming people as town. I never said CCC is confirmed town, I just gave a tier list. You assumed the rest.

wait why would Uzi be confscum just because he saw CCC as conftown?

Because scum are the only players who can be confident with their reads! Town is uninformed, scum knows.

Confidence is AI? That's new to me.

Oh I forgot Io, probably null for me but have to reread her.

VOTE: Lil

There is literally no way you can legitimately scum read Trans and not scum read me after how friendly he and I have been today.

Uh there is and I just did.

wait why would Uzi be confscum just because he saw CCC as conftown?

Insufficient evidence. I'd posted nothing but fluff and one or two minor questions before that read.

wait why would Uzi be confscum just because he saw CCC as conftown?

Because scum are the only players who can be confident with their reads! Town is uninformed, scum knows.

Well that's patently false as most town players develop strong scum or town reads in most games.

Yeah, but generally Town waits until it has a bit of evidence first, one way or the other. I'd posted practically nothing before that read.

Makes it look like Lil Uzi Vert might just have decided in advance how he wanted to read me, then ignored my actual posts. Which would seem more of a scum strategy than a town strategy.

This is somewhat meta but scum knows who is cum so they read each post with the knowledge of what that players alignment is. Therefore they can see exactly what is townie about each post. For me it is very hard to call some people town and some people scum when I am maf. I either see everyone as town and have to entirely fabricate my scum tells(sure way to end up misspeaking and dieing) or I see everyone as scum and noone trusts me because I read them as scum when they know they are town.Hope that makes sense but the wiki does have a page on this. Scum has the best scum read and town reads of all the players in the game. They know and therefore can see the signs in each player's post.

Town is dumb; scum is smart.


End of meta post

Yeah... that's why I'm suspicious of Lil Uzi Vert for his correct read on me based on practically nothing.

Mobile while driving really sucks.

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MAFIA WHILE DRIVING!

You should be paying attention to the road! Watching other traffic! Paying attention to the pedestrians and/or cyclists in your vicinity! NOT dividing your attention with a mobile browser!

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MAFIA WHILE DRIVING!

It's not safe!

I don't recall saying how strong my reads are but for the record, they aren't that strong at the moment and they like all reads during this time are subject to change and will.

I will say though that my questions toward Transcend was how I got my scum read on him.

wait why would Uzi be confscum just because he saw CCC as conftown?

Because scum are the only players who can be confident with their reads! Town is uninformed, scum knows.

Confidence is AI? That's new to me.

Lil Uzi. In post 612 you sure didn't seem to be backing off your town read. Now that you are taking some votes for that you are suddenly backing down? Kinda contradictory

How am I backing down? I only pointed out that I never once said how my strong my reads were due to a few people assuming my town read on CCC was a strong one. I still stand by that read.

Tell me what part of this says lil Uzi is town? And if he is town, we sure won't have lost a power player!

(By the same argument I ain't worth much either:/ )

i hardclaim scum

VOTE: burgerking

Iso burgerking and look at his posts.


Literally no content what so ever.

I can't find 1 post from BurgerKing that actually has them scumhunting.

ironic.

heres a few posts where i demonstrate scumhunting:

post 308
post 467

there are a bunch of other posts where i ask JaeReed, Io, Impoetic to explain things they said.

so blatant lie is blatant.

hmm let's look at u now.

post 483 - filler opening post (abt how theres a lot of pages, wanting to flip maf, calling the mod a noob etc.)
post 484 - another useless post abt how you're tired and you'll read later
post 552 - irrational logic
post 569 - another useless post abt how you're not even going to bother to read over what u missed
post 571 - u then announce that u'll skim-read and dont come back with a useful post
post 593 - useless "lol" post
post 704 - claiming to be serious about the irrational logic in post #552
post 706 - useless post
post 707 - useless post
post 712 - useless+incorrect post
post 706 - useless irony posting of facepalm emoji
post 721 - u ask someone to tell u to iso a player instead of just ISO'ing players
post 724 - useless post
post 726 - vague / lacks elaboration
post 729 - the one relevant post u made which is pretty much a BW on LUV

so u basically called me out on not scumhunting which was not only a lie but also completely ironic considerin all the posts u've made so far.

VOTE: Gerryoat

This is his only post more then a few lines and it's a mass quote on a townie.

I quoted mostly the stuff pertaining to Hermie's votes D1 & D2 if you're interested Titus. Some are quote walls, tho.

[JaeReed]

ahhh ewwww there was a spoiler in there I guess.

[mhsmith0]

What are your thoughts on their play? You made a big deal about not having narrow focus and now you avoid comments on Hermie.

I thought Hermie was more interesting and pushy in the newbie game when we were together as town, and here he's been more UTR. I haven't really been digging for connections, though, and frankly I spent a decent chunk of N3 tinfoiling that it was Io/Trans and I was gonna get NK'd by being too obvious about trying to bury Io's doc read of me, and any time when I think there's a realistic chance that I'd die, I'm a lot less likely to put a lot of attention into a thread.

The whole cloud lynch cluster was also kind of exhausting, so in large part I've put this game on the backburner.

[Titus]

@JaeReed, can you fix the post?

[JaeReed]

And if he is town, we sure won't have lost a power player!

Anyway this was the line I hated from him in particular with regards to Uzi's lynch (everything in the spoiler is what he quoted from Uzi so feel free to ignore that I guess, I wasn't paying attention to the fact he spoilered it).

Then Burgerking's lynch D2 he quoted him saying "I hardclaim scum." when he voted him, which I also really disliked.

[Titus]

Tbh, I am leaning mhsmith0 and Transcend.

[JaeReed]

Okay so I am trying to catch up. I really am not picking anything up on my gut radar other than burger is spoiling for a fight and everyone claims lil Uzi is scum. Transcend seems to be town so I guess VOTE: lil Uzi

Spoiler:

Hey Hermie and rb!

VOTE: gerryoat

You better not be Team Moon!

This game is going to be a pain to reread.

I'm colorblind.

Btw io is mafia and i know for sure because i am a day cop nk-immune miller ascetic mason

Sounds sexy.

I'm colorblind.

Is this in answer to "did you get a red role pm"? Or something else?

Yep, I believe so.

if luv flips town i will donate a kidney to charity

IM THAT SURE HE WILL FLIP SCUM

I'll put a picture of your face on a billboard when I flip town

I have no idea what GT means. Translation?

How old are you Cloud?

How old are you Cloud?

He's 65

Are you Cloud?

How old are you Cloud?

He's 65

Are you Cloud?

He's my father (adopted, of course)

He's a little too old for you to still be answering for him.

Hey Hermie and rb!

VOTE: gerryoat

You better not be Team Moon!

what's team moon is that what the mafia team is called? i genuinely don't see where this is listed if it is.

Yeah I heard that's what they call themselves. Wanna sheep me?

I was just told this game started and then told not to post so guess what I'm gonna do? POST. OBNOXIOUS. ONE-LINERS. REPEATEDLY.

Who told you not to post?

Hey luv, did u read about gargamels towns ?

Nah, I couldn't find it on the wiki so I just assumed you were trolling. Sounds like something out of a cartoon though.

How old are you Cloud?

He's 65

Are you Cloud?

He's my father (adopted, of course)

He's a little too old for you to still be answering for him.

No, no, that's fair. However, since you now realize he's my father you should also realize that you've won $100 million in the secret lottery. To collect you need to give me all of your personal banking information. You can pm me or post it in thread. Don't worry, this will be 100% secure for you.

I'm already rich sir, but thank you for the offer!

Would you sell your soul for the answers? That is the question my friend.

VOTE: Impoetic

I am aware that it looks like a dumbtell and it sort of was in that I realized team moon was probably something else before posting it, but decided to post it anyway.

And you did this because ___?

why not? It was a quirky, fun entrance that somewhat proved my alignment in that I probably wouldn't have come up with such a weird dumbtell as scum, and it got reactions. I don't really know what to think of transcend's reaction, but it did get reactions.

so, tldr: idrc

I also haven't read up yet and am multitasking ATM so excuse the late response.

Why were you so focused on proving your alignment rather than looking for scum?

VOTE: Impoetic

I am aware that it looks like a dumbtell and it sort of was in that I realized team moon was probably something else before posting it, but decided to post it anyway.

And you did this because ___?

why not? It was a quirky, fun entrance that somewhat proved my alignment in that I probably wouldn't have come up with such a weird dumbtell as scum, and it got reactions. I don't really know what to think of transcend's reaction, but it did get reactions.

so, tldr: idrc

I also haven't read up yet and am multitasking ATM so excuse the late response.

Why were you so focused on proving your alignment rather than looking for scum?

Indoor voices fam', indoor voices.

Indoor voices fam', indoor voices.

VOTE: Impoetic

I am aware that it looks like a dumbtell and it sort of was in that I realized team moon was probably something else before posting it, but decided to post it anyway.

And you did this because ___?

why not? It was a quirky, fun entrance that somewhat proved my alignment in that I probably wouldn't have come up with such a weird dumbtell as scum, and it got reactions. I don't really know what to think of transcend's reaction, but it did get reactions.

so, tldr: idrc

I also haven't read up yet and am multitasking ATM so excuse the late response.

Why were you so focused on proving your alignment rather than looking for scum?

I wasn't, I just posted it because i could and that's part of my goal as town. It was a genuine thought I genuinely had, it was mildly amusing and it helped me show I was town, so I posted it despite realizing it was stupid.

Why is it so hard for you to grasp that? This seems like nitpicking rather than genuine confusion. Still multitasking so I can't look closer to verify that theory.

I just don't see a need for you to try show the rest of the town that you're town if you're town.

Your emphasis on genuine worries me as well.

Woah, tounge twister.

Am I tripping right now? Are there two Io's?

Smells like some next level reaction testing

Tuxedo cats for the win.

I don't like his posts and i don't think his progression through the game is genuine.

Have a great day Mr dude that tricked me in wakes role madness.

Opinions! How many of us have them?

Tone feels off too

Pedit: no

Tone would imply we've played together before no?

Tone feels off too

Pedit: no

Tone would imply we've played together before no?

No and i don't use meta when i tone read them

Why wouldn't it? You're basically implying I sound different from normal which doesn't make sense since we don't know each other.

What's the tone of a basic town? What's the definition of a basic town?

I can understand if you said you didn't like my tone or said it made you feel uncomfortable, but you said my tone felt off. Your choice of words my friend.

What's the tone of a basic town? What's the definition of a basic town?

I can understand if you said you didn't like my tone or said it made you feel uncomfortable, but you said my tone felt off. Your choice of words my friend.

It's hard to explain how i tone read people

But it's proven to work each time i do it.

Noted.

I got a couple of reads but I definitely need to check the shelfs again.

Logic and reasoning seem like my thing, at least at the moment.

Yeah I think I'm cool with this for now

(burgerking, CCC, JaeReed, rb)
(Cloudkicker, gerryoat, Hermie, Impoetic, VWXYZ)
(mhsmith0, Transcend)

Oh I forgot Io, probably null for me but have to reread her.

Guess why and I might say.

I liked his questioning of the Transcend scum read me which I had assume was a joke for like the longest time.

Yeah.

This isn't town.

I refuse to believe that you brushed my vote off on you as a joke.

Okay.

And at no point did you suspect it might very well be an easy buddying/pocketing play, or just distancing his reads when he has a teammate on you? Seriously that's incredibly lazy work there.

No I choose not to because I'm not going to psyche myself out and I don't see how questioning a read is buddying.

So you have a lazy town read on ccc for defending you. Are your other town/scum reads similarly lazy, or is there any meat behind the other ones?

How was questioning a read at that point in the game defending me? I was nowhere in danger of being lynched.

And yeah they're lazy, it's Day 1.

Oh look I questioned your scum read of transcend that must make me conf!town in your eyes now

I have not once said the words confirmed and town in the same sentence until now.

So you have a lazy town read on ccc for defending you. Are your other town/scum reads similarly lazy, or is there any meat behind the other ones?

How was questioning a read at that point in the game defending me? I was nowhere in danger of being lynched.

And yeah they're lazy, it's Day 1.

Oh look I questioned your scum read of transcend that must make me conf!town in your eyes now

I have not once said the words confirmed and town in the same sentence until now.

So you have a lazy town read on ccc for defending you. Are your other town/scum reads similarly lazy, or is there any meat behind the other ones?

How was questioning a read at that point in the game defending me? I was nowhere in danger of being lynched.

And yeah they're lazy, it's Day 1.

Do you actually believe in any of the reads you've stated or is it all weak leans backed up by basically air?

You think you need to be near lynch for someone to defend you?

Oh look I questioned your scum read of transcend that must make me conf!town in your eyes now

I have not once said the words confirmed and town in the same sentence until now.

So you nitpick on my wording instead of the actual point about your town reads seeming to be super cheap?

I do, for now. They can always change though.

No, but you're not telling me how is questioning a read defending me. Questioning is expressing doubt, not protecting or shielding one from attacks.

I'm just trying to understand how you're taking my town reads as confirming people as town. I never said CCC is confirmed town, I just gave a tier list. You assumed the rest.

wait why would Uzi be confscum just because he saw CCC as conftown?

Because scum are the only players who can be confident with their reads! Town is uninformed, scum knows.

Confidence is AI? That's new to me.

Oh I forgot Io, probably null for me but have to reread her.

VOTE: Lil

There is literally no way you can legitimately scum read Trans and not scum read me after how friendly he and I have been today.

Uh there is and I just did.

wait why would Uzi be confscum just because he saw CCC as conftown?

Insufficient evidence. I'd posted nothing but fluff and one or two minor questions before that read.

wait why would Uzi be confscum just because he saw CCC as conftown?

Because scum are the only players who can be confident with their reads! Town is uninformed, scum knows.

Well that's patently false as most town players develop strong scum or town reads in most games.

Yeah, but generally Town waits until it has a bit of evidence first, one way or the other. I'd posted practically nothing before that read.

Makes it look like Lil Uzi Vert might just have decided in advance how he wanted to read me, then ignored my actual posts. Which would seem more of a scum strategy than a town strategy.

This is somewhat meta but scum knows who is cum so they read each post with the knowledge of what that players alignment is. Therefore they can see exactly what is townie about each post. For me it is very hard to call some people town and some people scum when I am maf. I either see everyone as town and have to entirely fabricate my scum tells(sure way to end up misspeaking and dieing) or I see everyone as scum and noone trusts me because I read them as scum when they know they are town.Hope that makes sense but the wiki does have a page on this. Scum has the best scum read and town reads of all the players in the game. They know and therefore can see the signs in each player's post.

Town is dumb; scum is smart.


End of meta post

Yeah... that's why I'm suspicious of Lil Uzi Vert for his correct read on me based on practically nothing.

Mobile while driving really sucks.

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MAFIA WHILE DRIVING!

You should be paying attention to the road! Watching other traffic! Paying attention to the pedestrians and/or cyclists in your vicinity! NOT dividing your attention with a mobile browser!

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MAFIA WHILE DRIVING!

It's not safe!

I don't recall saying how strong my reads are but for the record, they aren't that strong at the moment and they like all reads during this time are subject to change and will.

I will say though that my questions toward Transcend was how I got my scum read on him.

wait why would Uzi be confscum just because he saw CCC as conftown?

Because scum are the only players who can be confident with their reads! Town is uninformed, scum knows.

Confidence is AI? That's new to me.

Lil Uzi. In post 612 you sure didn't seem to be backing off your town read. Now that you are taking some votes for that you are suddenly backing down? Kinda contradictory

How am I backing down? I only pointed out that I never once said how my strong my reads were due to a few people assuming my town read on CCC was a strong one. I still stand by that read.

Tell me what part of this says lil Uzi is town? And if he is town, we sure won't have lost a power player!

(By the same argument I ain't worth much either:/ )

i hardclaim scum

VOTE: burgerking

Iso burgerking and look at his posts.


Literally no content what so ever.

I can't find 1 post from BurgerKing that actually has them scumhunting.

ironic.

heres a few posts where i demonstrate scumhunting:

post 308
post 467

there are a bunch of other posts where i ask JaeReed, Io, Impoetic to explain things they said.

so blatant lie is blatant.

hmm let's look at u now.

post 483 - filler opening post (abt how theres a lot of pages, wanting to flip maf, calling the mod a noob etc.)
post 484 - another useless post abt how you're tired and you'll read later
post 552 - irrational logic
post 569 - another useless post abt how you're not even going to bother to read over what u missed
post 571 - u then announce that u'll skim-read and dont come back with a useful post
post 593 - useless "lol" post
post 704 - claiming to be serious about the irrational logic in post #552
post 706 - useless post
post 707 - useless post
post 712 - useless+incorrect post
post 706 - useless irony posting of facepalm emoji
post 721 - u ask someone to tell u to iso a player instead of just ISO'ing players
post 724 - useless post
post 726 - vague / lacks elaboration
post 729 - the one relevant post u made which is pretty much a BW on LUV

so u basically called me out on not scumhunting which was not only a lie but also completely ironic considerin all the posts u've made so far.

VOTE: Gerryoat

This is his only post more then a few lines and it's a mass quote on a townie.

I quoted mostly the stuff pertaining to Hermie's votes D1 & D2 if you're interested Titus. Some are quote walls, tho.

@Titus can't fix it, can make a new one. Here.

[Hermie]

Mhsmith. My mq is the exact reason I've been quiet this game. Any time I think I have come up with something it's because I missed some vital part of information that makes what ever it is I'm pushing at that Moment entirely irrelevant.

[mhsmith0]

Mhsmith. My mq is the exact reason I've been quiet this game. Any time I think I have come up with something it's because I missed some vital part of information that makes what ever it is I'm pushing at that Moment entirely irrelevant.

mq?

[mhsmith0]

Tbh, I am leaning mhsmith0 and Transcend.

spicy. What makes you think me and trans fit together?