STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Creature]

but will always scum read you if you play the same way.

Even if my scumplay is always lurky?

[Creature]

Still think kraska is scum, though I am wondering if I should actually test out that ability.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Grapes- you still in the game on a serious note you are in the same boat as Shiro. Both of your VCA points to be likely town

[Creature]

TFL, who would you shoot?

[Creature]

If you could.

[Creature]

Shadow
Almost
RR
MOI
Creature
random

MoI and random are Crystal Gems.

That'd be really bad if they were scum faking it, but I doubt it.

[Creature]

Also it's lacking Garnet and Pearl.

[Creature]

If we decide to let kraska live to LyLo, we can lynch within TFL/Shadow/Almost/Shiro/RR/Creature. Maybe get an alliance for TFL and have him shoot one of them.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Maybe...don't remember what game it was but there was a scum put in the mason group I was in,,,,,,,,, so I skeptical on there not being scum in with the gems.......

Maybe Almost or RR...I'm not 100 percent sure at the moment. I would need some time to decide who would be best to vig

[Almost50]

@Fuzzy:

Mate, you only had an alliance on 2 of 6 phases. You got away with the "I had just replaced in" on E2, and you had said something (that I forgot) to explain your lack of an alliance on E4 (Season Finale). E5 we all got the shenanigans resulting in just one alliance formed. Now it's E6 and you're still w/o an alliance. that's SUSPICIOUS.

Then I'm not buying your claimed character (Watermelon) for a Vig, besides all SKs will claim Vigs if given the chance to. I'm not6 saying you are a SK by necessity, but I'm just showing that the town doesn't necessarily have to believe there to be a TOWN Vig to begin with.

"If I was scum why would (edit: I) partner with my scumbuddy" is exactly my point. If it's you+kraska you probably wouldn't. I suspect there to be something that prevents you from forming alliances with certain people. I don't have your role PM though.

We know there's at least one scum alive in the non-top voters, and that's it's NOT random. It's either you, Shiro, Shadow or Creature. I have doubts about Creature playing this way as scum. I have been town reading Shiro since late D1 for reasons well known to at least 3 living players. Shadow still suspecting me makes me doubt he is scum as I wouldn't expect him to go against the flow on what is effectively a VT role by now. I mean, if Shadow is scum he should be pushing someone with a more powerful role, not clueless and powerless me.

By PoE you're the one that fits the profile of scum voting for no one in beach-a-balooza, forming no alliances, giving noncommittal reads (mind to provide a read list??), and a role claim that doesn't exactly match the claimed character.

P-edit:

THERE! You are starting to suspect me JUST NOW?? Where was that suspicion for the past century of the game??

[Creature]

THERE! You are starting to suspect me JUST NOW?? Where was that suspicion for the past century of the game??

If it's directed to me, I say no, I still think you're town, but you still can be scum.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Not having alliances is scummy Huh? this is a pretty weak reason ..... Night 2 I should of skipped reading the earlie days and played on the day I dopped in. this was just bad playing from me, Night 4 a lot of people did not ally Far mega bombed snarky and alliances was not set up. last night I tried to ally with Kras and failed...Why I do not know. I would love to ally with Kras to get better info if he was town or scum but that did not happen. There is nothing that is preventing me to ally...Either Kras did not put my name in or I was blocked by an ability. I don't know which

Ok..Fine but I am still WMS, I don't think the ability nessarily matches up with the character but the event does, Take that as you like.

Why cant it be Random? Can you explain this more. Also you are making quite an assumption here ..Why do you think scum are in the non top voter

I said I was suspicious earlier by you not being on zero scum wagon. You than explain why that did not make you scum. I think since then you have jumped heavily on me as scum. I could be wrong about the last part

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Honestly Almost I have no idea what to make of you and your playing, ( not in a personal way but as seen in in the game)

[Creature]

Let's play meta:

Scum!fuzzy: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=64535
Town!fuzzy: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=64156

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Almost

- I want to cut to the chase ... I see no reason to lynch Fuzzy first as an uncounterclaimed Vig kill on Firebringer when zero flips (and Chara) contradict the shot. Scum already had plenty of additional NK power with Remote Detonator and the Cluster event. Furthermore no reason for a scum Vig shot to take out Firebringer of all players.

Maybe more tonight once I have some time. If not probably tomorrow.

[Creature]

4. Shadow_Step Twin Wings Foxbird
13. Reasonably Rational (Cerberus v666 + Drixx)
17. kraskaesque (kraska77 + lycanfire)
21. TheFuzzylogic99 Seraphim

[MagnaofIllusion]

Also - kraska's "I'm confirmed Town in 3player LYLO" is such a crap claim I can't even begin to understand why anyone is taking that into consideration given Titus is an Innocent Child.

[Creature]

Anyone's familiar with Foxbird?

[Creature]

I think TFL should live to use his shot.

[mastin2]

In a three person lylo I become mod confirmed town

Everyone, are you safe with this?

Not particularly, no.

However,
VOTE: Creature.
I feel kraska should be allowed the chance to live long enough to use the role duplication power.

Also, right now:
We have MoI with a power that will soon confirm a player.
We have kraska with a power which could potentially confirm a player AND turn them BP.
We have a lynchpool of RR/kraska/farside|Fuzzy/Shadow/Creature/Shiro.
There's reason to believe RR/Shiro aren't scum. (Though, them being cleared would be appreciated.) There's reason to believe Shadow isn't scum. That limits the lynchpool to kraska/farside/Fuzzy/Creature.
If we decide to let kraska live long enough to use that power, then that leaves farside/Fuzzy/Creature as lynch options.

I am okay with this, especially considering my kraska vote was meant as a vanity vote.

[mastin2]

Mastin, are you a gem?

Tough question to answer.

I'm a

corrupted

gem.
I have the town wincon. Don't make me look at my role PM to paraphrase it again, that's a lot of effort. Aligned with Earth. Not gems. Not some other third party. Town. Was privately confirmed as such to Yume. I got to talk with Yume, but not the other gems. (Except by proxy, of Yume conveying what I said, of course.)

So, yes, that means that if kraska is telling the truth...we had one 1-way mason, a 5-man masonry, an IC, Shadow's ability, an ability to copy the IC, AND a 3p lylo confirmation in the same game.

That does seem like a little bit of a stretch.

[Creature]

Okay, if everyone's decided at lynching me, put me at L-1 (aka the hammer range for town).

[Creature]

Maybe make use of the shot Fuzzy got.

[Creature]

Yeah, I don't think I have a special ability to help town massively right now.

[Varsoon]