Mini Normal 1841 - At The End... (GAME OVER)

[JarJarDrinks]

So we pretty much paused until we get a replacement?

[MathBlade]

Seems that way since voting in MyLO is crazy dumb without everyone here and it looks like Dong is scum but I want to see how the replacement coming in thinks of the game and their reads. Need to see how the replacement reacts to things.

[Manuel87]

Wont be able to read/post much this WE.

[Donempire]

If we do nl math will do so its utterly useless.
we will lynch today. And its not me. Its not going to be town, jar is the pick of the day. End of story. You're blind to even whats in front of you, so either open your eyes or listen to me.

[Donempire]

Math will die*

[Donempire]

Bring out ALL the reasons you have to lynch me, i'll respond to them accordingly. Im not getting lynched.

[Something_Smart]

Read the neighborhood thread.

[JarJarDrinks]

Bring out ALL the reasons you have to lynch me.

Have you given even ONE reason you have to lynch me?

[MathBlade]

If we do nl math will do so its utterly useless.
we will lynch today. And its not me. Its not going to be town, jar is the pick of the day. End of story. You're blind to even whats in front of you, so either open your eyes or listen to me.

Let's assume you are right that I would die. How would you know that unless you were scum?
If you really thought I was town then you would be trying to convince me of where my mistake on my JarJar read is.

Secondly again let's assume you are right and town and that I would die. Then other players would see what you said and start examining your reads more thoroughly and see if they had merit or if it was scum flail and you just said who you thought would die.

The only reason we lynch today is if we are 100% sure no regrets. Otherwise we NL and force scum to narrow down options. If I have to be NK'd in order for us to lynch scum here so be it but I am not an obvious NK here.

[MathBlade]

FYI the Neighborization was what I referred to as most neighborizers are weak so I had thought ergo conf town. A nonweak neighborizer is even more powerful damn. Makes me think it is Manuel + Dong or SS. Dong because he was inactive in the hood and SS because his reads seemed more capitalistic.

I was on a total hiatus and refrained from doing anything for those few days on all of ms (november 4-6) so by that logic i wouldnt be able to chech the mafia pt either.
Ss isnt scum too. Youre barking up the wrong tree here math.

...Mafia PT? You have a mafia PT?

I really want to lynch this terribad.

[Something_Smart]

I should probably just out my second scumread now.

[MathBlade]

Yep. Probably should. Everyone should be transparent right now. That way we lynch scum today (or tomorrow if we NL) then pound scum into the pavement.

[Something_Smart]

Okay.

I think the scumteam is Dongempire/Mathblade.

[MathBlade]

....Keep in mind this is MyLO. Let's assume it is me + Dong. Why?

[Something_Smart]

Everything you say pings me.

[MathBlade]

...I ping my own grandmother when I am town. Again this is MyLO. I have stated I am willing to lynch Dong. Going to have to do a little better than "pings me" to explain why as scum (which I am not) I would bus a teammate here.

You'd need to demonstrate what Dong and I have done throughout the game.

[Something_Smart]

You already scumread Dong, though, correct?

[Something_Smart]

And bussing is a natural state to be in for scum because you can make arguments you genuinely believe in. So given that neither of you were under serious suspicion coming into this day (and that nobody's buying your ML on likely town Manuel based on some of the worst setup spec I've ever seen), you two as a team would likely be expecting to lynch one of you and have the other coast to victory pretty handily on the towncred.

[MathBlade]

Yep. I am trying to get you to see how it cannot be a me+Dong team by asking you to make a case. Because as it stands we lynch Dong and he hopefully flips scum then all scum have to do is wait for you to vote me then hammer. Pretty much I am trying to get you to think deeper than "gut".

"Gut" has been getting you mislynch on mislynch.

I have been consistently arguing Infinity scum since before the guilty. We could have had Infinity before then if you had listened to me. Who argued JarJar town to you: Me.

4 full blown PRs (Unlimited BP, JK, Watcher, plus non weak neighborizer the strongest PR on all of MS IMHO) vs anything but three full blown scum PRs is not balanced. A one shot tracker has flipped.

[MathBlade]

If Manuel is one shot then still would need three full blown lesser PRs. Like damn that is a shit tone of power.

Out of ten town 4 PRs. That is 40% power that ain't balanced.

[MathBlade]

Quit fishing. You be scum with Infinity.

VOTE: Infinity324

Rolefishing accusations are usually dumb. If the info is so valuable, the townie can just not reveal it, and if scum did decide to rolefish, they probably wouldn't do it so blatantly...

Explain how this happens if I am scum with infinity.

[Something_Smart]

So you look like you aren't partners.

I ran a game with 4 town PR's that was comparable to this setup (because ofc Manuel would be 1-shot) against a scum rolecop as the only real scum power. Your conception of balance is wrong.

And are you saying that "gut" has got

me

mislynch after mislynch? Because I was off all three mislynches. (And my flip on JarJar came from nobody but myself.)

[MathBlade]

And that would be horrible. Each PR is a point. If you give town one you give scum one. Otherwise town of any caliber should be running all over scum. If you give town a Watcher that is fullshot you either give scum an infinite shot roleblocker or a Watcher enabler. Every PR would have a counter. (The exception is theme games.)

One shot BP give scum one shot strongman.
Watcher + JK would need infinite shot roleblocker and infinite shot tracker. Ninja is out of the question as infinity was seen.

The fact there are four claimed PRs against a one shot tracker is garbage.

And yes I said that. I have been arguing my scumreads with cases and evidence and have been consistently told I am wrong except for oh wait I have been proven right.

You don't want to make a case because you don't want to confront the fact you might be wrong. If you are smart town a case should be rather easy to make and is in your interest. So either you WANT to tunnel and not admit you are wrong or you WANT to tunnel because you are scum. Either way you WANT to tunnel and getting you to listen to JarJar town among other things has been like leading a horse to water.

I can lead you to the oasis of making an argument but I can't read your brain and make your case for you. This is MyLO. If you think I am scum make a case. Otherwise shut up we lynch dong together and hopefully we can have overnight to think about your reads and how clearly mistaken you are and wake up and see I am town.

[MathBlade]

Would rather the posts not be deleted because then it isn't an accurate record. Have to go to bank then late meeting won't be on for a while.

[JarJarDrinks]

Fire should be forced to replace in to the ira slot.