Open 657: JK9++ (Game over)

[TwiszTed]

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Spade gave pretty good reasoning for what happened and I don't scumread alban for it anymore
VOTE: Charloux

Stop taking everything at face value and look beyond what is being said to notice what is NOT being said.

[TwiszTed]

Alban

, if you're very familiar with Spade's play then you had no reason to ISO him here. My original scumread stands. You two share the Scum PT.

VOTE: Alban

Nah. alban being scum is not proof of Spade!scum.

[Creature]

Do you even have scum games?

[TwiszTed]

MiniDeathStar's play is too Team Leader. The way she was sheeped is too. By you and Fountain.

Fountain throws Spade's name in for a split second, then sheeps Mini. I'll have to look through the Role Madness to see why Transcend hates me so much... found it - it's because I know how to play Wake non-bastard games. Someone got mad because as a Mason I called out the bad "Backup IC" claim. So his rage at me isn't exactly warranted.

Why are these scummy to you?

Because reasons.

I can't say too much at this point in time, but what I saw is becoming site meta.

Your reason on MDS is bullshit.

She wasn't asking for sheep to vote with her.

[TwiszTed]

Do you even have scum games?

I'm never scum.

[TwiszTed]

Like, even if they did share the scum PT and alban wanted to tell him to put an avatar, he'd have done it IN THE BLOODY SCUM PT. Because alban isn't an idiot.

Like, even if he *is* scum, he's not scum for that thing in particular.

Agreed. He's scum for not putting the matter to bed himself and instead let players speculate on the viability of researching every single player's profile before a game.

If he had just mentioned that Spade was known elsewhere and he checked up on him for whatever reason, it would have prevented much of the noise.

[TwiszTed]

I typed out a long post and my delete key got stuck deleted it all. Anyways, this is what i saved from it.

I think you are a bit of a scumread MDS. You spoilered the other two people that you picked apart but left your post on Klingon wide open and i think that was on purpose. I believe she might have hit close to the truth with her scumlist and you wanted it seen that you were defending yourself to distance yourself from the others. Your whole post quoting Klingon reads as you panicking to me. As far as you being here a month and not finishing a game, i only have one other game to base my experience with you on and we both know how that went, i wont say anymore on that. I will give it to you that you argue your points well but i am waiting for the other shoe to drop with your playstyle. I believe you are deliberately picking Klingon apart for reasons other than you really believe she is scum. Call it scum deflecting blame on a town.

VOTE: MiniDeathStar

I also have a lynch boner for you.

[TwiszTed]

Not my fault everybody's being hard to read lol

This is not the town! Creature I know and tolerate.

Also, MDS is mad town.

[Creature]

Have you ever played with me?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why not? Alban strikes me as a polite and considerate person to newbies.

Also I think he's way smarter than to scumslip about an avatar in the village thread when he could just have said that in their scum topic.

I still want to know why Klingon thought alban and Spade were scum together but didn't even list Spade as an FoS. I have a feeling I'll be saying Qapla' to somebody soon.

I don't think the scum team has daytalk.

Doesn't matter. Usually they get a few hours in the PT to say hi.

They get whatever time they have before enough confirm to start the game.

You say that with such certainty.

Truth is, it depends on the mod... but you seem informed.

I've played scum before, got the ability to chat pregame even when daychat was not allowed.

[Gamma Emerald]

I like TwiszTed's attempts at sorting the game.

[TwiszTed]

--------------------Town read
MDS, Jin, Lane
Bangthemafia
--------------------Null=Alban, Spade_Ace
Fountain of dream'z
Klingoncelt
--------------------Scumread

Haven't perceived{Read their posts but didn't receive any kind of signals[They have a low presence]}:
Tiger moth
Creature
Kop

That is a disgustingly bad reads list.

[TwiszTed]

You mean you genuinely 'scumread' people as mafia? I don't buy that.

It's quite possible if you use the multiball approach as scum.

[TwiszTed]

SAJ also looks town.

Oh HELL no.

This travesty of a read requires justification.

[TwiszTed]

Alban, I don't have any question for you and I don't suspect you. In fact, I have a town read on you. All I was saying in 360 was I was giving you first right of reply to Klingon's 275 and 276 before commenting on them myself. So why the attack on me for that?

This post strikes me as scum taken off guard by unplanned/unexpected distancing.

[TwiszTed]

About Bang, he is playing just as he plays. Aggressive, questioning and analytical. Spade, what do you think?

About Spade, he is not playing as he plays. He is usually very questioning and analytical, but he is not as active in this game. Maybe it's a lot to take in as his first game. Bang, what do you think?

As which alignment

That's tricky. Coz both of them make good mafias in that their mafia game doesn't vary much from their town game. Or at least I am not able to differentiate.
Both of them rely heavily on logic. So the only way to find their roles is to keep questioning them, in the hope that eventually they will be inconsistent. That's the only way to catch them.

I expected him to answer "as town", but instead he waffles. Sounds like an inconsistency to me.

[TwiszTed]

lane0168 - 1

Klingoncelt – 2
Tiger Moth - 3
Gamma Emerald - 4
Fountain of Dreams - 5
alban - 6

Charloux - 7
Kop - 8
MiniDeathStar - 9
Creature - 10

Secret Agent Jin - 11

bangthemafia - 12

Spade_Ace - 13

Wait, what happened to your townread of SAJ??

[TwiszTed]

Alban, Tiger Moth, Creature < happy lynching in here thus far.

[Gamma Emerald]

Alban, Tiger Moth, Creature < happy lynching in here thus far.

This is actually a half decent scum list.

[Gamma Emerald]

Kling prob townslipped

Just vig her tonight and move on

This post is still terrible.

[TwiszTed]

Yup, Tiger's probably not scum.

VOTE: Fountain of Dreams. If this is scum, Klingon takes 0 credit for it.

Even though I was the first to FoS and the first to list them as Scum.

I bet if they flip Town you'll be more than happy to hand me 100% of the blame.

Are you sure you're not Scum?

Why should you care about credit, unless you're scum?

All town needs to worry about is finding and lynching scum. Scum has to worry about how they look.

You're climbing in my scumreads.

[TwiszTed]

I have been sceptical about Gamma through the game but post 428 thru 432 reads as the start to a self-imploding meltdown train wreck. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near Gamma for the nwxt few pages incase he takes with him anyone near.

VOTE: Gamma

Damn your posts are slimy.

[TwiszTed]

BTW I never intended to let myself get lynched

Nice, empty threat, all for show. What was the point?

If you didn't know the point, why did you join the wagon???

Cause I want gamma dead. Maybe you should be asking, if gamma didn't know the point, why did he start it? It was all for show. Scum like to vote themselves to show people they aren't concerned about dying. It's an act

That's bullshit. Self-voting can easily lead into a flash lynch, the way Gamma did it.

Scum self-vote out of fake frustration. Not to troll others.

That said, I'm not scumreading Charloux simply because he reacts poorly to taunting.

[Secret Agent Jin]

I have been sceptical about Gamma through the game but post 428 thru 432 reads as the start to a self-imploding meltdown train wreck. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near Gamma for the nwxt few pages incase he takes with him anyone near.

VOTE: Gamma

Damn your posts are slimy.

I know this is your first game with me and i appreciate the attention. Please, present your exact reasoning that i am "slimy" as you say

[TwiszTed]

I have been sceptical about Gamma through the game but post 428 thru 432 reads as the start to a self-imploding meltdown train wreck. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near Gamma for the nwxt few pages incase he takes with him anyone near.

VOTE: Gamma

Damn your posts are slimy.

I know this is your first game with me and i appreciate the attention. Please, present your exact reasoning that i am "slimy" as you say

So many of your posts just reek of scum.

The only reason I'm not already voting you is because they feel superficially scummy. I haven't yet pieced together any actual scum motivation behind them.