Micro 657: Vanillite Mafia (Game Over!)

[Postie]

I feel like we're not really getting anywhere here. Whatever. It's fine. Wyv isn't going to vote himself, and hopefully another towny will get onboard the TB train.
When ThinkBig flips scum I want shannon speedlynched. TIA.

[Dark Horse]

When ThinkBig flips scum I want shannon speedlynched. TIA.

Yeah no this isn't happening

[Dark Horse]

@aeronaut get back on wyvern

[ThinkBig]

Sorry for the extended V/LA. Will start catching up tomorrow.

I feel like we're not really getting anywhere here. Whatever. It's fine. Wyv isn't going to vote himself, and hopefully another towny will get onboard the TB train.
When ThinkBig flips scum I want shannon speedlynched. TIA.

And when I flip town, I want you lynched.

[shannon]

but a TB lynch gives us next to nothing.

If we lynch him today and he flips scum:

• algebra is cleared
  
• we're left with a pool of 4 people to choose between to lynch, all of which are actively posting

If we lynch him today and he flips town:

• we eliminate an unknown who was going to be lynched eventually anyway
  
• we don't have to keep get frustrated over the fact that he's not doing anything

If we don't lynch him today:

• we'll likely have to decide whether to lynch between him or algebra tomorrow, and if we choose wrong we lose
  
• that's not a choice I trust town with please let's not go there guys

[/quote]

- Algebra isn't cleared. If we only get two mislynches, then a bit of scum bussing D1 is a plausible strategy.

- Why are you assuming TB is going to be lynched anyway? Are you now lining up lynches?

- You're assuming that say TB or Algebra aren't going to be night killed if we lynch Wyvern today.
- Why are you leaving me off of the 'tomorrow' list when I'm a scum read of yours? No faith in your ability to make that case? Or do you think I'm dead tonight?

- So you think we can choose TB out of {TB, Wyvern, Algebra} today, but you think it's impossible to choose between {TB and Algebra} tomorrow? Please explain how that works.

[shannon]

PS I"m not being speedlynched at any point, I've never been lynched in my short history on site and I'm not about to start now.

[Postie]

And when I flip town, I want you lynched.

Ahahahahahahahaha

[Postie]

- You're assuming that say TB or Algebra aren't going to be night killed if we lynch Wyvern today.

This was hilarious also.

[shannon]

Tinfoil hat theory: Postie is scum

[ThinkBig]

Tinfoil hat theory: Postie is scum

Him and Algebra. I'll post more on my thoughts tomorrow, but those two are my top scum reads.

[Postie]

Nightkilling Postie will make me look bad so I'll have to do things another way. :[

FTFY

[shannon]

Nightkilling Postie will make me look bad so I'll have to do things another way. :[

FTFY

[Dark Horse]

Think big get on wyvern. Postie and algebra aren't getting lynched today. If you screw this up you'll find yourself lynched by an increasingly wack wagon.

[ThinkBig]

In post 358, shannon wrote:
Nightkilling Postie will make me look bad so I'll have to do things another way. :[

This is totally going in my sig. Thanks for the belly laugh at 3 AM.

[ThinkBig]

VOTE: wyvern

[Aeronaut]

back, reading up

[Postie]

Wyvernite is at L-1

(again)

[Aeronaut]

Excellent. Feeling better about townreading you.

Ok, first off, why does me agreeing with your point make me suddenly seem town to you?

1st Tier Lynchpool:

ThinkBig

⁴ /

shannon

⁴
2nd Tier Lynchpool:

Aeronaut

³
Townpool:

Dark Horse

¹ /

algebra

² /

Wyvernite

²

And you're saying I'm town, but I'm in your lynchpool.

What even are your points on shannon? I don't even remember you saying she's scum.

If wyv flips scum (which is what I'd suspect), then we'd have an extra mislynch. That scenario would also allow us to look at the possibility of algebra scum before a three man lylo, which sounds terrible

This is also a very, very good point.

If Wyvern is scum here he has zero understanding of basic scumplay and absolutely no common sense. Why isn't he trying to push through a lynch that isn't him? Why is he attacking some of the only people who stand any chance of being convinced to not lynch him?

That's indicative as scum, though, isn't it? Someone having nothing to base their arguments on so they just resort to defending themselves and not giving any real anything. At the very least, it's not town in any way.

He hasn't been pushing ThinkBig though. All he's done is expressed minor suspicion of him, and the same with algebra.

He has done absolutely nothing to try and make a lynch happen on either of them.

You understand that you're laying out a scum case, right? It's the

very fact

that he's talking and talking but saying a whole lot of nothing that should be raising red flags for you, but it isn't for some reason. I really don't understand.

Like, a townie is pushing for reads and trying to get somewhere, and you're literally admitting that Wyvern is doing the opposite of that. Why would you not be voting for him after recognizing this?

In addition to everything that put him in the spotlight, he's gone back to lurking while occasionally making a comment that he has no intention of following up. That's scummy as hell.

Yeah, honestly this.

Because he doesn't have to. Both of the lynches of substance behind them. Especially in the case of thinkbig's lynch, there's nothing he needs to do because of how hard you're gunning for it.

That's not how things were for the vast majority of the time he was sitting on his hands and letting things happen.

Again... sitting around and letting everyone else fight is exactly what scum does.

[Aeronaut]

Yeah.

Intent to hammer

Honestly Postie, besides the argument that it's going to be hard to deal with TB and Algebra tomorrow, I really don't agree with most of your defense of Wyrv right now. And that argument doesn't even really hold up anymore, because TB is back here posting right now. W flip gives us far, far more information than a TB one does right now, especially if he's scum which I'm honestly becoming more and more sure he probably is.

[Aeronaut]

In addition to that, how does sitting around and doing nothing = auto-town? It doesn't, that's how. And if it did, you could apply that same argument to ThinkBig, who also has sat around for the majority of the game and done nothing.

[Postie]

The point I'm making is that sitting back and letting himself get lynched is stupid as hell. The

only

reasonable way he cold have expected to not be lynched up until I started defending him was by pushing another viable wagon through, and he didn't do that. And what's this about him being on the defensive? Where is making an effort to defend himself?
What I'm saying is that

he wasn't doing anything to prevent his own lynch

.
Maybe he's scum that's given up, but I doubt that considering the amount of effort he's putting into the game wrt to explaining his thoughts.

[Postie]

Fuck this, Aero's back in my scumpool.

[Dark Horse]

Oh he absolutely was trying to avoid getting lynched. His whole inital reads list was him trying to buddy the guy that was attacking the two people who called him out. His whole readslist change was to try to backtrack and appease the town. There are mutliple ways he's tried to avoid getting lynched

At what time is the deadline on the 16th?

[Dark Horse]

Fuck this, Aero's back in my scumpool.

lol now you're reacting like wyvern did when he aeronaut started to disagree with him

[Postie]

VC 1.7

D1 will end

Nov 17/16

or in

(expired on 2016-11-17 07:30:00)

No premature hammers please. I want the chance to finalise my thoughts after how messy everything's gotten.
Also TB promised a catch-up, and I want to read it.