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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:46 am

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In post 80, Dunnstral wrote:Pretty sure there's scum in wisdom
Hmm I think you would know...
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:48 am

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ok as of now my pro reads are
Scum- Howard;Dunn
Other group should prob lynch bdub unless he gets replaced
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:51 am

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Maybe Arc? I get the sentiment with their read on me, but I'm not sure if scum would jump on me like that.
Maybe so, not my choice either way.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:54 am

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Apparently what Frank said about Howard doesn't apply to him.
If you thought hammers were locked like that why would you even vote?
Also the coin flip seems scummy to me but it might be NAI
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:00 am

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In post 103, Gamma Emerald wrote:Apparently what Frank said about Howard doesn't apply to him.
If you thought hammers were locked like that why would you even vote?
Also the coin flip seems scummy to me but it might be NAI
Thats exactly what I think. If he voted first I wouldnt have voted at all.

I hate saying reaction test. Because it skews the results.

Do you think town OR scum would have hammered there? So that doesnt really matter.

My Coin is VT as well.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:06 am

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If he had voted me I wouldnt think it was as scummy
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:06 am

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In post 104, FrankJaeger wrote: Thats exactly what I think. If he voted first I wouldnt have voted at all.
Sure...
I hate saying reaction test. Because it skews the results.
There's reaction tests and then there's that.
Do you think town OR scum would have hammered there? So that doesnt really matter.
I don't get the question.
If you are town, you have to think there's a chance one of us is scum. Why would you give the opportunity to quickhammer to scum?
My Coin is VT as well.
The fact that you said "coin flip" made it feel like "I could vote either one equally".
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:08 am

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In post 105, FrankJaeger wrote:If he had voted me I wouldnt think it was as scummy
Huh?
If I was scum I could have hammered, if you were right about hammers.
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:09 am

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In post 106, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 104, FrankJaeger wrote: Thats exactly what I think. If he voted first I wouldnt have voted at all.
Sure...
I hate saying reaction test. Because it skews the results.
There's reaction tests and then there's that.
Do you think town OR scum would have hammered there? So that doesnt really matter.
I don't get the question.
If you are town, you have to think there's a chance one of us is scum. Why would you give the opportunity to quickhammer to scum?
My Coin is VT as well.
The fact that you said "coin flip" made it feel like "I could vote either one equally".
Well it got a reaction from everyone but the guy who mattered.

I agree, but I also realize the only person hammering is scum. Scum knows this too.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:09 am

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In post 107, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 105, FrankJaeger wrote:If he had voted me I wouldnt think it was as scummy
Huh?
If I was scum I could have hammered, if you were right about hammers.
But you probably wouldnt.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:20 pm

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Now i am a bit on the fence concerning Power group. I think Frank might be scum and he has a scum read on Dunn and he said maybe also Arc. If Frank turns out to be scum then we can maybe discount his scum read on Dunn and Arc. I dont know who to vote in my group because Arc and Dunn are really good at being scum or they are town, like i think. All i know right now is if i could, i would vote Frank.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:59 pm

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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:13 pm

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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:29 pm

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In post 110, Secret Agent Jin wrote:Now i am a bit on the fence concerning Power group. I think Frank might be scum and he has a scum read on Dunn and he said maybe also Arc. If Frank turns out to be scum then we can maybe discount his scum read on Dunn and Arc. I dont know who to vote in my group because Arc and Dunn are really good at being scum or they are town, like i think. All i know right now is if i could, i would vote Frank.
I get this logic, but I have 2 suggestions;

1. I'm not scum, but it does not implicate them when I flip green.

2. Dont treat them as town because you think I'm scum.

So if your group is clear, and I am wisdom scum, who is the scum in the last group?
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:02 pm

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In post 113, FrankJaeger wrote:
In post 110, Secret Agent Jin wrote:Now i am a bit on the fence concerning Power group. I think Frank might be scum and he has a scum read on Dunn and he said maybe also Arc. If Frank turns out to be scum then we can maybe discount his scum read on Dunn and Arc. I dont know who to vote in my group because Arc and Dunn are really good at being scum or they are town, like i think. All i know right now is if i could, i would vote Frank.
I get this logic, but I have 2 suggestions;

1. I'm not scum, but it does not implicate them when I flip green.

2. Dont treat them as town because you think I'm scum.

So if your group is clear, and I am wisdom scum, who is the scum in the last group?
1. That is correct, it does not implicate them. If you are town then your scumreads are subjective. If you are scum then you know who scum is and wouldnt bus early on.
2. Im treating them as town because i read them as town.
3. I havent seen many posts from them but lane is townlean to me so Wobbuffet or Lion could be scummy. I dont have an answer for that.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:06 pm

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Ive considered lion as well. Lane does look pretty town. Wobb being afk makes ur group a harder to read
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:06 pm

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Omg not ur group their group
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:19 pm

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In post 115, FrankJaeger wrote:Ive considered lion as well. Lane does look pretty town. Wobb being afk makes ur group a harder to read
Do you think Wobb is afk or just lurking and hasnt posted?
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:23 pm

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Im assuming afk
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:24 pm

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In post 116, FrankJaeger wrote:Omg not ur group their group
Am i retarded?
THEIR GROUP IS HARDER TO READ

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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:25 pm

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In post 119, FrankJaeger wrote:
In post 116, FrankJaeger wrote:Omg not ur group their group
Am i retarded?
THEIR GROUP IS HARDER TO READ

Jesus
Discard this, as I misread my own post.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:06 pm

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In post 45, Gamma Emerald wrote:I have my own reads
Don't tell me how to do my job
the casual sass here makes me think gamma's probably town
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:09 pm

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In post 52, Secret Agent Jin wrote:Anyways, have you played triplicate mafia before? This is a pretty unique setup for me and i like it. It puts a fresh spin on the game.
SAJ, how does this question help you find scum?
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:16 pm

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on the claiming VT thing: the last time I played with AA9 - Kids With Guns (coincidentally also hosted by Not_Mafia) - she was town and scumread advantage for most of the game because he claimed VT at L-1 early in the game, so my first take is that she may be genuine here.
In post 79, HowardRoark wrote:I agree with the case against ArcAngel9. If not locked into groups today, that would be my current vote.
^this is weak
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:19 pm

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In post 94, FrankJaeger wrote:
In post 27, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 13, FrankJaeger wrote:Town wouldnt vote like that.
I could just jump right over and lynch gamma right now.
Isnt that what you want me to do?
walk me through why this doesn't apply to your vote
Me and Howard are in 2 different positions. My vote was literally random.

I dont think town would have voted at all in his position.

Scum has several reasons they would do what he did.

BUT I was more interested in his reply. Which was what exactly?
In post 102, FrankJaeger wrote:Maybe Arc? I get the sentiment with their read on me, but I'm not sure if scum would jump on me like that.
Maybe so, not my choice either way.
I like these replies, Howard's probably the scum in Wisdom
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