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[gigabyteTroubadour]

5 days is close to deadline yeah

and i meant across multiple games lmao, House did that to me in our newbie

[kraska77]

Pull what off?

making weird left field votes and reads that dont align with what the widely townread ppl's reads

[kraska77]

"pull that off" is probably the wrong expression...i cant english

[MariaR]

Pull what off?

making weird left field votes and reads that dont align with what the widely townread ppl's reads

So you're saying because my reads are so different from everyone that makes me scum?
First of all that wouldn't make someone scum depends on why they sr someone Intent > Actions
second of all I don't think my reads are left field when my main sr's are gamma and the wagon I'm wanting to hammer

[kraska77]

theyre not just different, they dont make sense

[MariaR]

You're gonna have to go into detail cause I think my reads make perfect sense!

[kraska77]

look
u dont seem to be getting my point
just bc u called ssbm scum or whatever, doesnt mean ur read will automatically make sense to me if i share it. because ur read progression(or lack thereof) doesnt make an iota of sense and doesnt look real to me

ok bye for real

[MariaR]

look
u dont seem to be getting my point
just bc u called ssbm scum or whatever, doesnt mean ur read will automatically make sense to me if i share it. because ur read progression(or lack thereof) doesnt make an iota of sense and doesnt look real to me

ok bye for real

No you're the one not getting my point I'm not saying you should be getting my read because we agree with it I'm saying-sigh...you won't get it I guess

[Errantparabola]

I have no time to do typical wall formatting right now, so I apologize for the disorganization

Not enough content and he comes off too townie. I can't really explain why but my gut is telling me to lynch.

Does anyone have a reaction gif so that I can properly show how functionally incorrect I think this is?
Also: I'd like to retract what I said about the scumread confidence thing, I don't think that's valid hunting business anymore.

only child, eh?

if the category still existed (and you played more) I'd nom you for most enjoyable player

And all votes on Maria have been anecdotal fallacies

I'm noting this: you seem to be viewing maria votes in a different light than your non maria votes although imo they're pretty equivalent. that's all

Oh dear, how so? You're saying it's opportunistic in which way? Let me explain to you in a way that not only will you know that you're wrong, everyone will know you haven't been reading the game for coming to this conclusion.

You imply that my vote is opportunistic. Which means I'm taking advantage of the fact that others are voting you, correct? Now, if we use this logic, there are only 2 other people that are voting you. One being Maria and the other being Josh. Since you decided to post this now, it means I'm taking advantage of Josh voting you. As you can see from this post, I voted you way before he did.

At first, I thought this was a terrible response (although the push was also bad)
But it makes a lot of sense in context and I'm thinking gerry is town

Jordan is just lynchbait. That's independent from his scumminess.

I'm actually starting to come around to this theory (and josh's post before)
in an ideal world, we'd ruthlessly lynch the lynchbait until they stopped being lynchbait and help them become better outside of games to create a sitewide environment of better players, but that's just a faraway dream
i'd still love a jordan lynch but its not something i think i'll push for.

GIGA: your reads lacking any sort of substantive basis shows me one of two things
1) You're minimizing direct interaction with people
2) There is little excuse for them being overall bad

there is no legitimate transition onto the kyouko vote (which I also think is a bad vote)!
in fact, last mention of it was a null read and your only justification for that switch is a hamfisted attempt at saying that myko and gamma, your top scumreads from earlier, are now unvotable

and why do my catchups give me lynch immunity..........??

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
VOTE: giga

I would be okay with a compromise on most of the names on the table if it came down to desperate deadline shenanigans (actually at that point I'd lynch literally anyone above no lynch)
and yes, I will be here. I had a rough patch in life for a few days there.

Okay
This is incredibly juicy. Who is spreading this deadline paranoia and managing to swing a fast wagon on kyouko here because it's awful and everything about it smells

Before I hammer let's see what if anyrhing ep and RK have to say. I'd say jordan too but let's be real here.

yeah
here's what I have to say
dont do it dude
your vote is golden where it is

it's deadline and wagons tend to grow quick at that point

how
is
it
deadline
we have LIKE 30 PERCENT OF THE DAY LEFT
WHAT!

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i believe that 7 days until deadline is when deadline paranoia should start honestly. i'll say that again in post game bc it's true.

too many terrible experiences with them.

also i think my reads have substance?? i can go in depth about most of them but no one has really been prodding me to go into any of them more than i have? which reads are you talking about anyway

kyouko read hasn't really developed though, you're right in that regard i guess but?? i don't think voting for a nullread is a terrible idea especially if you feel less confident about a scumread and are exploring other angles... which is exactly what i am doing.

like some of things i liked (from what i can remember, paranoia, attention to weird things??) were really not enough to make me townread his slot... so iunno

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Can someone please just lol hammer

[MariaR]

*peeks in* did someone say lol hammer

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Yo I'm on lunch at work, in case I get hammered before I get home my most confident reads are on Gamma as scum and Gerry as town, fwiw
I'm vt so don't be scared of lynching a pr. Kraska is looking g really did to me, pretending my vote on Gamma is opportunistic. Seriously, read Gamma's ISO, and read mine, and tell me I'm scum pushing for his ml. This wagon is the work of kraska. Recommend any investigative PRs to check them tonight, fwiw

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Phone autocorrect messed that up: kraska is looking really bad to me*

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Oh and by this wagon I mean the one on me, not the one on Gamma

[ssbm_Kyouko]

And by them I mean kraska at the end. Investigative roles should check Kraska

[ssbm_Kyouko]

That's the end of my claim. Up to you guys at this point.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

EP is still town

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I will post a wall after work, but 2 quick things for now:
@Giga - If you really think a Gamma vote is just a weaker Myko vote compare their posts, especially see the difference between them after a few days in. Gamma is still contributing next to nothing, and Myko is actually helping move things along.
Kraska - I said it before, you called it disingenuous, and I've said it again above. Gamma is contributing next to nothing. Read his iso if you don't believe me, don't just call my opinion disingenuous to discredit it.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I mean unless you're scum then go ahead and ignore Gamma's ISO and pretend my opinion of it is disingenuous

[mykonian]

unvote

That feels quite alright really.

vote Jordan

[MariaR]

Waiting for the wall post before I vote

[Joshz]

Question in general. Ssbm's recent posts were not bad. But they weren't life changingly good either. If someone is L-1 and given an opportunity to speak, why would they not post the most substantive content possible? Ssbm had several hours to think of that reply if he was scum and following the thread actively. So why are people who were ready to lynch so accepting of it? Mykonian in particular please answer since you unvote before the legendary wall post.

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Guys ssbm is trolling twilight lol

[Transcend]

Oh wait,

He didn't get lynched

Fix this.