Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]


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Post Post #5300 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:16 pm

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In post 5298, PeregrineV wrote:Or will lynch scum Giovanni. That will at least give us a "town Maxous" if he is to believed.
Let me say this again: I replaced during a Night Phase. If I was replacing into a scum slot in a game where one player has recently played with me (Creature) and knows my playstyle and another one might remember it (SirCakez) (in addition to anyone seeing my previous games and noticing that I play differently), I would have actually talked with my scumbuddies and went full analytical as I usually do with the help of faux scumhunting conclusions or whatever. We didn't have a shortage of suspects back then anyway, and we don't have one now. I wouldn't have touched the McMenno wagon and I certainly wouldn't risk my position spouting theories the way I did, especially since I happened to replace in a slot that was Townread by a majority of the players prior to me joining the game.

I think you overplay the whole bread-crumbing issue. I have one result (Maxous), who was chosen because I felt like it was the safest choice, as this is the first time I play a weak role and I was afraid of hitting non-town. Also, with the way I played during Day 2, there was a chance that I would be lynched eventually, so I figured that it would be unlikely for me to be nightkilled by scum; it would be unlikely to be nightkilled by town-aligned vigs as well, as they would had more prime candidates than me during the Night Phase.

In fact, I wouldn't had roleclaimed if the following quotes from Creature and Narna didn't happen:
In post 4390, Narna wrote:We're not seriously switching to LaL after three days of apathy. Town is boned.

Kill Maxous, Giovanni, and Titus.
In post 4393, Creature wrote:Maxous and Giovanni first. Maybe Almost50 too.
In post 4469, Creature wrote:Maxous, Giovanni and Almost50 are my top preferences.
In post 4480, Narna wrote:VOTE: Maxous

Disingenuous my ass.
First two posts are before the govern, the latter two are after.

Three posts after the last Narna quote, I kind of roleclaimed and voted Leonshade. Back then, right after the govern, I believed what Maxous said about Narna and Leonshade being scumbuddies (as opposed to now that I stated that I have no idea), hence my vote. When I saw the Narna vote, I also thought that Creature might be their scumbuddy and that they will attempt to lynch Maxous.

In any case, Creature was (and is) playing differently than what I know of Town!Creature, and seeing him stating twice that he is willing to lynch Maxous and I was definitely strange. Narna's two posts were strange in a similar fashion, as well, but it doesn't make sense if he didn't know that he will be governed. In retrospect, even the roleclaim's timing was wrong, as I had to see if Creature would join Narna first, before claiming.

Anyway, I have played terribly this game. If you are so sure that I am scum and I have to be lynched before any of the other possible wagons today, then go for it.

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Something else. I totally misunderstood what "Miller" is when I was explaining my Shiro vote. For some reason, it had stuck to my brain that "miller" is someone that turns mafia if he/she is nightkilled.

Even so:
In post 5020, Shiro wrote:

Nah, I am.not. Just really disinterested. Do you honestly think scum me would claim Rolecop Miller? Psh come on.
I don't get why a mafia rolecop wouldn't or couldn't claim miller rolecop. Seems plausible, especially since it kind of leaves some space to said supposed mafia rolecop to do eyebrow-raising things, like hammering MoI or getting out of Narna's wagon.
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Post Post #5301 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:34 pm

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lord what i wouldn't do for an execute or something right now
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Post Post #5302 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:47 pm

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In post 5300, Giovanni il Pellegrino wrote:
In post 5298, PeregrineV wrote:Or will lynch scum Giovanni. That will at least give us a "town Maxous" if he is to believed.
Let me say this again: I replaced during a Night Phase. If I was replacing into a scum slot in a game where one player has recently played with me (Creature) and knows my playstyle and another one might remember it (SirCakez) (in addition to anyone seeing my previous games and noticing that I play differently), I would have actually talked with my scumbuddies and went full analytical as I usually do with the help of faux scumhunting conclusions or whatever. We didn't have a shortage of suspects back then anyway, and we don't have one now. I wouldn't have touched the McMenno wagon and I certainly wouldn't risk my position spouting theories the way I did, especially since I happened to replace in a slot that was Townread by a majority of the players prior to me joining the game.

I think you overplay the whole bread-crumbing issue. I have one result (Maxous), who was chosen because I felt like it was the safest choice, as this is the first time I play a weak role and I was afraid of hitting non-town. Also, with the way I played during Day 2, there was a chance that I would be lynched eventually, so I figured that it would be unlikely for me to be nightkilled by scum; it would be unlikely to be nightkilled by town-aligned vigs as well, as they would had more prime candidates than me during the Night Phase.

In fact, I wouldn't had roleclaimed if the following quotes from Creature and Narna didn't happen:
In post 4390, Narna wrote:We're not seriously switching to LaL after three days of apathy. Town is boned.

Kill Maxous, Giovanni, and Titus.
In post 4393, Creature wrote:Maxous and Giovanni first. Maybe Almost50 too.
In post 4469, Creature wrote:Maxous, Giovanni and Almost50 are my top preferences.
In post 4480, Narna wrote:VOTE: Maxous

Disingenuous my ass.
First two posts are before the govern, the latter two are after.

Three posts after the last Narna quote, I kind of roleclaimed and voted Leonshade. Back then, right after the govern, I believed what Maxous said about Narna and Leonshade being scumbuddies (as opposed to now that I stated that I have no idea), hence my vote. When I saw the Narna vote, I also thought that Creature might be their scumbuddy and that they will attempt to lynch Maxous.

In any case, Creature was (and is) playing differently than what I know of Town!Creature, and seeing him stating twice that he is willing to lynch Maxous and I was definitely strange. Narna's two posts were strange in a similar fashion, as well, but it doesn't make sense if he didn't know that he will be governed. In retrospect, even the roleclaim's timing was wrong, as I had to see if Creature would join Narna first, before claiming.

Anyway, I have played terribly this game. If you are so sure that I am scum and I have to be lynched before any of the other possible wagons today, then go for it.

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Something else. I totally misunderstood what "Miller" is when I was explaining my Shiro vote. For some reason, it had stuck to my brain that "miller" is someone that turns mafia if he/she is nightkilled.

Even so:
In post 5020, Shiro wrote:

Nah, I am.not. Just really disinterested. Do you honestly think scum me would claim Rolecop Miller? Psh come on.
I don't get why a mafia rolecop wouldn't or couldn't claim miller rolecop. Seems plausible, especially since it kind of leaves some space to said supposed mafia rolecop to do eyebrow-raising things, like hammering MoI or getting out of Narna's wagon.
You replaced in for night1.
If you had a weak role, in which you would have died had you hidden behind them, why not make it so that reading your ISO after your death, we would see who you hid behind?
You had all day2 to post and let us know your suspect?
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Post Post #5303 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:22 pm

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Ugh. All motivation is dead for me,
just in everything.

I don't think Creature is a good lynch at all guys.
I have no good alternatives besides Shiro

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Post Post #5304 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:33 pm

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There's a day and a half left.
Everyone either gets on creature or not chara or be considered vig-bait.
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Post Post #5305 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:34 pm

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@Narna

I am pretty sure Titus is town, her push on Mcmenno is like so TownTitus
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Post Post #5306 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:40 pm

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In post 5297, PeregrineV wrote:I'll take reasons from both Creature and Not Chara about why they should stay in Undertales Mafia.

I'll vote the one that doesn't have the best reason to NOT lynch them.

GO Chef Ramsey!!!!
I can point out that I am way too careful as scum when posting.
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Post Post #5307 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:36 am

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Day 3, Vote Count #20

Current Vote Count:

(0)
SirCakez
(1)
Giovanni il Pellegrino -- PeregrineV
(0)
Maxous
(6)
Creature -- Almost50, Nahdia, Titus, Leonshade, Not Chara, Maxous
(0)
PeregrineV
(2)
Titus -- SirCakez, Narna
(1)
Shiro -- Giovanni il Pellegrino
(0)
Nahdia
(0)
Firebringer
(3)
Not Chara -- Ankamius, Andrius, Creature
(0)
Ankamius
(0)
SlySly
(0)
SnarkySnowman

(0)
Narna

(0)
Almost50
(0)
Leonshade
(0)
Andrius
(0)
massive

Not Voting:
SnarkySnowman, Shiro, SlySly, massive, Firebringer

With 18 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Leonshade is V/LA until 11/20.

Day 3 Will End on Sunday, November 20th, at 9 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-11-20 21:00:00)



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Post Post #5308 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:40 am

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In post 5307, Skullduggery wrote:(6) Creature -- Almost50, Nahdia, Titus, Leonshade, Not Chara, Maxous
Hello, we're the scumtubbies!
We're going to stall the game in a town wagon so town must deadline mislynch.
Time to say bye!
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Post Post #5309 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:44 am

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In post 5305, Shiro wrote:@Narna

I am pretty sure Titus is town, her push on Mcmenno is like so TownTitus
So why won't you vote?
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Post Post #5310 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:49 am

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I've been reviewing, this seems to be the general consensus on reads.

Town:

SirCakez
Giovanni il Pellegrino
Maxous
Creature
PeregrineV
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Shiro
Nahdia
Firebringer
Not Chara
Ankamius
SlySly
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Leonshade
Andrius
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Shiro
SlySly
massive
Firebringer

Scum:


The general consensus also seems to be, "let's ignore what has happened in this game and let those who need rope for what they have done in this game live. let's instead look for some obscure thing that happened in a previous game that is remotely similar to something said in this game and make them pay for it!"

I'm sure glad that governing happened. Look how much more informed and unified we are because of it.

There is but one that should be hanging today, and that is Leonshade.
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Post Post #5311 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:52 am

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at this point i'll vote leonshade just bc im salty about that govern.
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Post Post #5312 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:52 am

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Agreed. Leon should of been auto-lynched.
People really over complicated this with WIFOM.
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Post Post #5313 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:53 am

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sure:
VOTE: leonshade
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Post Post #5314 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:07 am

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In post 5311, Nahdia wrote:at this point i'll vote leonshade just bc im salty about that govern.
Yep.
VOTE: Leonshade, scum governor
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Post Post #5315 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:31 am

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The villainy you teach me I will execute—and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction.
VOTE: Leonshade
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Post Post #5316 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:47 am

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Do.not.lynch.leonshade. that is so fucking backwards. There is zero reason to off leonshade before me. Leon's role is even testable.

VOTE: almost50 for glory.
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Post Post #5317 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:51 am

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Narna just claimed sci buddies with scum governor
Zzz

His role is provable

YEAH WE KNOW HE BROKE US OVER HIS KNEE
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Post Post #5318 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:53 am

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inb4 someone claims the serial killer is leading all the wagons today
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Post Post #5319 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:56 am

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Do you think scum has a governor who can pardon every day? I don't like outguessing the mod, but that is seriously broken. I just claimed "strong town role who was pardoned by the gov." It's obvious why I would defend him.
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Post Post #5320 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:58 am

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1.Bastard game
2. Doesn't have to be every day
3. Potential for lying
4. You know you're next once we lynch your scumbuddy
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Post Post #5321 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:58 am

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Hammer commitment: Leonshade
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Post Post #5322 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:58 am

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In post 5318, Andrius wrote:inb4 someone claims the serial killer is leading all the wagons today
I missread your don't have a killing ability nonsense, so I dropped the tp read a while back. The whole ploy was still needlesly misleading and anti town.
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Post Post #5323 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:59 am

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In post 5312, Maxous wrote:Agreed. Leon should of been auto-lynched.
People really over complicated this with WIFOM.
WILL YOU JOIN IN OUR CRUSADE
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Post Post #5324 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:59 am

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In post 5321, SlySly wrote:
Hammer commitment: Leonshade
SLYSLY YOURE THE BEST
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