Open 657: JK9++ (Game over)

[Spade_Ace]

@creature the FoD slot was always a town read for me. Ted's style of play is scumhunting. If he is faking it, am not able to read it.

[Kop]

VOTE: Gamma

I could live with that.

[Charloux]

VOTE: Gamma
yay, finally! Not sure if i can log on again before the deadline.

[Creature]

Wished we had more VCs.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Kop]

Gamma is currently L-2.

[TwiszTed]

UNVOTE: Creature
If it was somebody else, i would ask for a full claim. If Bang is mafia, what prevents him from claiming a PR? Or anybody else for that matter?

Claiming a PR shortens a player's lifespan.

If they continue to live, they're scum.

[MiniDeathStar]

Gamma (4/7) - MiniDeathStar, Kop, Charlie, Creature.

Correct?

[TwiszTed]

I fail to understand why would a scum claim PR? VT is a bigger pool to hide for a scum and doesn't need any further explanation from the player

Town will usually hammer VT anyway, and getting cc'ed gives scum something in exchange for losing a member.

[TwiszTed]

Not lynching Gamma. Creature flip flopped onto him way too easily.

VOTE: bang

[Creature]

Creature flip flopped onto him way too easily.

If you're basing your read on Gamma from my stance on him, that's kind stupid.

[TwiszTed]

Creature flip flopped onto him way too easily.

If you're basing your read on Gamma from my stance on him, that's kind stupid.

Not if you're scum.

[Spade_Ace]

Vote Count
Gamma - Charls, Creature, MDS, Kop
Spade - Tiger, Bang, Kling, Lane
Creature - Gamma, Alban
Bang - Ted
Kling - Spade
Not voted - SAJ

[TwiszTed]

Creature flip flopped onto him way too easily.

If you're basing your read on Gamma from my stance on him, that's kind stupid.

Funny how you say stupid instead of scummy.

Implies that you think I'm town, but you've been pushing for my lynch.

[MiniDeathStar]

I haven't liked Gamma lately this game, and his caps lock one-liners suspiciously remind me of his scum style.

[Creature]

Creature flip flopped onto him way too easily.

If you're basing your read on Gamma from my stance on him, that's kind stupid.

Funny how you say stupid instead of scummy.

Implies that you think I'm town, but you've been pushing for my lynch.

Scum can also make stupid arguments.

[alban]

Building and receding wagons on 3 people in 24 hours is the sign of a confused town. We have a few more hours left, so let's not do walls, ISOs, metas and replies. The only way through is to logically go over the options, make a list of suspects you don't mind voting out, vote for your top suspect, make a compromise in case your top suspect isn't generating enough traction, and vote for one of your other suspects. I can vote for Kling and Charl. Maybe even Twisz. I don't want to include Creature and Spade in this list anymore. But I can vote for them in case someone can convince me that it is quite likely that they fakeclaimed (Spade is certainly capable of doing that). But atm, I will be apprehensive in voting out Creature or Spade.

UNVOTE:

[alban]

Vote Count
Gamma - Charls, Creature, MDS, Kop
Spade - Tiger, Bang, Kling, Lane
Creature - Gamma
Bang - Ted
Kling - Spade
Not voted - SAJ, Alban

[lane0168]

VOTE: gamma this should be the lynch, if it's not, we can't keep running people up we're not willing to lynch.

[alban]

@alban,bang, so you think spade would think of softclaiming VT as scum? Like is that something he's capable of thinking of doing as scum or is that not his style/experience?

Absolutely capable. He can adapt to changing situations naturally and quickly. But as of now, I wanna believe his claim. Also, didn't he softclaim or whatevr long before the wagon was building on him? That gives more credence to his claim.

How about Creature? Is he capable of lying?

[alban]

VOTE: Kling

Vote Count

Gamma (L-2) - Charls, Creature, MDS, Kop, Lane
Spade - Tiger, Bang, Kling
Kling - Spade, Alban
Creature - Gamma
Bang - Ted
Not voted - SAJ

[lane0168]

Yeah he's capable of lying. And that's what I'm asking you, how likely is spade to do that as scum. You're saying he's capable but then say you believe it because he did it before the wagon. That's the part I'm asking about.

[lane0168]

Wtf Alban. You're not helping with that vote. Klingon will not get traction to get lynched

[Gamma Emerald]

I think we can push a flashwagon right?

UNVOTE:

[lane0168]

Spade and gamma seem to be the options this late. Votes elsewhere are unhelpful and anti town

[Gamma Emerald]

I fail to understand why would a scum claim PR? VT is a bigger pool to hide for a scum and doesn't need any further explanation from the player

PR fishing. It's a thing goons usually do.