STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Almost50]

Also - everyone should confirm that all submitted alliances went through as requested.

Grapes and I were successful.

I'm allied with Shiro, yes.

[Shadow_step]

I have played with Cerb before and I honestly don't think he is dumb enough as scum to trigger an event which can lead them to be POE'd like this, plus when there is a mod confirmed IC and there is a mason confirmed townie. It was obvious that none of the scum were likely to be going to get that reward.

Never lynching
MOI/random/mastin/RR

Very unlikely to be lynching
Grapes

Rest all could be scum
But I'm pretty sure its in the three I mentioned before.

[Almost50]

What I think about scum is that one of Shiro / RR is scum unless there was no bussing on SirCakez.

While I have this feeling Shadow is the other scum.

Sorry, mate.. but I can't help it. So, you're telling us that "unless no bussing occurred; somebody might have actually bussed"??? Now how did I not think of that?!

Disclaimer: I REALLY do SINECERLY apologize if the above comment offends you in any way, shape or form. I assure you int was NOT my intention. I'm sarcastic by nature and things statements like this would NEVER escape my sarcastic remarks is all.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

SirCakez (LYNCH):

Not Chara

,

mastin2

,

Titus

,

McMenno

, grapes, Shiro,

Xkfyu

,

SnarkySnowman

,

Yume

,

Kraskaeaque

,

Klingoncelt

, Reasonably Rational

[MagnaofIllusion]

SirCakez

(LYNCH):

Not Chara, mastin2

,

Obi-Wan Kenobi

,

McMenno

, grapes, Shiro,

Xkfyu

,

SnarkySnowman

,

Yume

,

Kraskaeaque

,

Klingoncelt

, Reasonably Rational

So we have three unflipped on the wagon.

Again - if grapes is Town then either Shiro and / or RR is scum unless you believe this is a 100% Town wagon.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

it seems so hard to believe that this was an all town wagon......

As I was telling Far in our PT its more likely either Shiro or Grapes are scum given their vote position. A RR scum might of thrown a vote at the end but this seems the less likely of the possibilities given. I am still fairly convinced that dcum stayed off the SC wagon for some reason. At best I don't think there is ore than one on the SC wagon..... but I could be wrong

[Almost50]

I still lean strongly towards an all town lynch wagon on D1. For one thing, Cakez' role was too strong to give up on and simply throw to the wolves. For another; RR being the hammer doesn't make sense if scum had decided to bus (which is unlikely from the previous point). You don't let a wagon form on your buddy and decide to only intervene as the hammerer. If you insist on there being scum on the wagon it'd be between grapes and Shiro (I have town reads on both).

I'm all for a Creature lynch, but Fuzzy also work for me. I am undecided on Shadow, and have town reads on the rest of you.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I would say its hard to believe bc it goes against conventional thinking and scum play,,,,,,,

[Almost50]

Oops! Got ninja'd and didn't care to read before I submitted.

[Creature]

So SirCakez wagon means nothing?

[Creature]

Nvm

[Creature]

TFL should not be lynched today or tomorrow.

[Creature]

Okay, gonna wait others.

[Creature]

I think it's Shiro + Shadow

[MagnaofIllusion]

Someone needs to remind me if there is some game reason that Almost is clear.

Mastin I'm looking at you for this.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Yeah I think Shiro and Grapes are likely town..... and I am leaning town with them. I was just saying that given position they were more likely scum. We seem on the same page Almost...I believe it was an all town wagon and said so before. Its just hard to wrpa my head around this since it goes against normal scum play, A scumm RR gains nothing from hammering his buddy and is unlikely to do so......

Lynching Fuzzy is a bad idea.....unless you want to mislynch town

[Almost50]

@Fuzzy:

Your vig shot is one of the strongest reasons I'm ok with lynching you, fyi. As seen before (TWIE), Vigilante is one of the most fake claims used by scum. It explains why they have a gun and gives them an edge shooting whoever they like and claiming it too. A game has just ended with me and Chara playing as "Almost Chara" in it where I called out the SK on D1, and he still rode the game all the way to victory, outliving 12 players (technically he outlived 11, with one townie ending the game, but the SK still won although he had a guilty on him from N1 by our scum p FBI Agent).

The point is I would not trust a Vig claim unless an SK flipped already, and I don't even think there is one in this game, so I'm skeptical to accept your claim at face value.

P-edit:

I'll give you a weak one: I'm not Jasper, and Cakez did ally with me on D1. I can't think of much else for now, as I want to watch a soccer game that will kick off in 5 min.

[Creature]

1. Titus Obi-Wan Kenobi

2. Klingoncelt

3. SirCakez

4. Shadow_Step Twin Wings Foxbird

5. Xkfyu

6. Skybird

7. Almost50
8. Shiro

9. DrippingGoofball

10. Farside22

11. Yume

12. Mathblade Loopdan CooLDoG

13. Reasonably Rational (Cerberus v666 + Drixx)
14. grapes

15. mastin2

16. Not Chara

17. kraskaesque (kraska77 + lycanfire)

18. MagnaofIllusion killthestory

19. McMenno

20. Firebringer

21. TheFuzzylogic99 Seraphim

22. SnarkySnowman

23. Creature

24. randomidget

25. TheWayItEnds

[Creature]

1. Titus Obi-Wan Kenobi

2. Klingoncelt

3. SirCakez

4. Shadow_Step Twin Wings Foxbird

5. Xkfyu

6. Skybird

7. Almost50
8. Shiro

9. DrippingGoofball

10. Farside22

11. Yume

12. Mathblade Loopdan CooLDoG

13. Reasonably Rational (Cerberus v666 + Drixx)
14. grapes

15. mastin2

16. Not Chara

17. kraskaesque (kraska77 + lycanfire)

18. MagnaofIllusion killthestory

19. McMenno

20. Firebringer

21. TheFuzzylogic99 Seraphim

22. SnarkySnowman

23. Creature

24. randomidget

25. TheWayItEnds

[Creature]

Also, if you say I am posting these just to look busy, what am I trying to do to get town cred?

[Creature]

I have a lot of trouble with large themes, not necessarily because of the larger player size but because a lot of players tend to take it as an excuse to shitpost and troll and what have you rather than playing the actual game. This pisses me off which also tends to tilt my scumdar and read players as scum who are probably just town shitting around. It also increases my apathy levels and makes it more difficult for me to get firm reads. I know I can't be the only player like this; farside mentioned it earlier in the thread. Cool it on the shit posts; post well or not at all. There's already going to be a lot of noise in this thread. Firebringer, in particular, needs to tone it the fuck down.

Probably should do some real content too. But what content do I have?
Hmmmmm.

Well.

Creature is my strongest non-Mastin/Yume townread (i.e. based purely on play).
KTS is town.

I mostly just have a list of players I am peeved at but I think TheWayItEnds stands out as good scumread material.

Vote: TheWayItEnds

Would Seraphim distance TWIE here?

[Creature]

Foxbird seemed uninspired.

[Shiro]

Why are people so adamnt that there are two scum left opposed to my theory of 1 scum left ?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Why are people so adamnt that there are two scum left opposed to my theory of 1 scum left ?

Because it can't hurt to be conservative when it comes to the number of scumbags left to kill. If we are wrong and only 1 is around then we have more breathing room than we are planning for.

Also there are two missing members of the Ruby Squad but that's just flavor.

Tell me - given your theory on only 1 scum left who do you think it is?

[mastin2]

Someone needs to remind me if there is some game reason that Almost is clear.

Closest thing to it is the same reason for Shadow_step (rather, Foxbird with Skybird D1): he allied with scum, SirCakez in this case. AND, while having an alliance with SirCakez, still invited him to the joyride. A double waste of scum power there.

But you're correct.
It's mostly play-based.

Also, who do you want to lynch?
I seem to recall there was a distinct order upon a kraska townflip.