Mini 1852 - Werewolves and Jester win!

[Hiraki]

I understand that - perhaps you could understand that you can only take so much before you just have to let a little out.

I apologize to Vedith for those comments. They were not appropriate.

[vonflare]

Ok, cool it you two.

I understand that arguing and trying to get a reaction out of the other person is part of the game, but please don't resort to personal insults.

Hiraki, if you still want to replace out please PM me.

[Hiraki]

I will continue for the moment but my tolerance for bullshit is very low.

[vonflare]

Banter and arguing is fine; personal insults are not.

[Vedith]

is insulting, and shouldn't be part of the game (though admittedly I sometimes screw up along those lines myself). I'd say that your engagement with Hiraki has been more insulting than actual constructive criticism, and it's reasonable for him to be upset (though probably thin-skinned, since I've seen plenty worse than this in games).

VI is a common term used in Mafia.
That is not an insult imo. I'm called it a lot and I just accept it.

I apologize to Vedith for those comments. They were not appropriate.

I wasn't looking for an apology.
However, I do get over aggressive sometimes and yeah I did antagonise the situation more than needed. I'll stop with it.
Sorry Hiraki and Von.

Now moving on. I really still don't care that you think me and Gamma are scum together, I'll work on proven that later on, but I really would like you (and others) to look at Coug and McMeno.
Memeno wouldn't vote Gamma there if a scum team, but Coug trying to distance themselves to McMeno...

[Hiraki]

Coug is OK. He called you weak town at first and then switched onto you with proper reasoning - regardless of whether you agree with the reasons.

McMenno, I've discussed at larger lengths. I've consistently called him town and only called that read into doubt with the 368 vote on Gamma. This will come into more substance if Gamma flips town. I'd like to believe, based on the quality of McMenno's other posts, that he does read the game but does not actively comment. I would like to see more active content mostly for alignment reasons rather than scumhunting reasons.

Memeno wouldn't vote Gamma there if a scum team, but Coug trying to distance themselves to McMeno...

This is too theoretical for Day 1 with no flips.

[Hiraki]

Coug is OK. He called you weak town at first and then switched onto you with proper reasoning - regardless of whether you agree with the reasons.

McMenno, I've discussed at larger lengths. I've consistently called him town and only called that read into doubt with the 368 vote on Gamma. This will come into more substance if Gamma flips town. I'd like to believe, based on the quality of McMenno's other posts, that he does read the game but does not actively comment. I would like to see more active content mostly for alignment reasons rather than scumhunting reasons.

Memeno wouldn't vote Gamma there if a scum team, but Coug trying to distance themselves to McMeno...

This is too theoretical for Day 1 with no flips.

sorry - coug called you town and is voting gamma so that part is wrong. not that it makes a difference - i have no qualms with coug's play atm.

[McMenno]

Personally, I have no trouble with this. I don't believe a lyncher win means town loses.
And that's if you're a lyncher.

You're okay if he's the lyncher?
No Kuroi... Do something worth while.

I have the second most posts this game. I've spent a lot of time in this game.
I feel like I've been doing something worth while.
You just disagree with me. I'm more worried about catching scum than worried if a win condition that has nothing to do with me and doesn't affect me is fulfilled or not.
And again, I don't know he's a lyncher.

your posts aren't very substantial though

I see. I know IGMEOY at FOS (Finger of Suspicion).

I use FoS as well for when I feel it's too strong to warrant an IGMEOY.

must follow the pupper

VOTE: gamma

This reeks of a bus of Gamma. Welcome to my #2 suspect slot.

Also, answer my question in #231.

I want to end the day earlier so the twon doesn't get to use such useless tools as "scumhunting" and "analysis"

[PUPPER]

): *cuddles hikari*

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm literally dealing with the incarnation of Donald Trump's persona on Twitter.

Mod: Sorry, I really

really

hate to do this but I have no will to play with this prick. If you don't think his actions are enough for at least a warning, please replace me.

For everyone else in the game, if you agree with me in some sense about his behavior - not even regarding lynching Vedith - please say something.

To Vedith, I hope you change for your own sake.

Vedith is a troll but I can handle him.

[StrangerCoug]

You missed my entire point. I'm saying there was no reason to town read me there.

OK. So there was no reason to townread you there. Now supply me with some other reasons to townread you.

You're not showing that you want to either...

Don't you just love unrealistic expectations?

As it currently stands, Hiraki is my top town read, with KuroiXHF in second place. I'd fight against a drealmerz lynch, too, and I have a better reason to consider you misguided than scum. So that's four people I can believe are town. PUPPER I want to reserve judgment on until he's investigated, but I wish he'd be more active. If somebody were to put a gun to my head and demand I decide whether PUPPER's town or scum, I'd say scum for that reason, but Gamma Emerald and McMenno are the two people I'd lynch today.

I want to end the day earlier so the twon doesn't get to use such useless tools as "scumhunting" and "analysis"

...This is a joke answer, right?

[Vedith]

Vedith is a troll but I can handle him.

Well, this is false on both accounts.
Just because you don't play how I do doesn't mean it's trolling.

OK. So there was no reason to townread you there. Now supply me with some other reasons to townread you.

I'm more interested in catching you slip up as scum or seeing others as scum than to prove I'm town.

Don't you just love unrealistic expectations?

I guess.

As it currently stands, Hiraki is my top town read, with KuroiXHF in second place. I'd fight against a drealmerz lynch, too, and I have a better reason to consider you misguided than scum. So that's four people I can believe are town. PUPPER I want to reserve judgment on until he's investigated, but I wish he'd be more active. If somebody were to put a gun to my head and demand I decide whether PUPPER's town or scum, I'd say scum for that reason, but Gamma Emerald and McMenno are the two people I'd lynch today.

Gamma is too much of an easy lynch at this stage.
The only resistance seems to be from me. Unless scum are just so badly lurking and we hit a jackpot with el obviousé, I don't see Gamma flipping scum.
But sure, we can discuss over the option. Although it's not directly against the Gamma lynch, if Gamma was scum, Kling currently keeping off the radar, or appearing to be, with weak comments like Pupper's vote (sitting on the fence question) or just voting Snarky for lurking (iron knee) when Snarky lurks as either align...
The posts are there, but if you look at it, there's nothing.

So, I wouldn't expect scum McScummybagsack to vote Gamma this early on a bus. I just don't see it at all. Which means, to me they are not scum buddies even if 1 of them are. McScummysackofbags would have been an easier push for Gamma right now, and even if both scum, a good push for him. McMeno has given nothing to the game and just proceeds to do nothing. Why would Gamma put him as town? From a scum Gammer/Town McMeno or Scum Gammer / Scum McMeno situation, what does he gain there to put him as town?
1st instance if both scum, McMeno is day 2 lynched
if only Gamma scum, he's being lynched instead of McMeno.

Doesn't add up.

And I'm tired, so going to bed.

[StrangerCoug]

I'm more interested in catching you slip up as scum or seeing others as scum than to prove I'm town.

Fair enough

[Klingoncelt]

im sure asking pupper a question the fifth time will work - he will definitely write a wall about the game and not post any gifs

this is why he is ignorable and should be shot by any town PRs

scum won't shoot that doggie

I'm pretty sure the dog is Town-controlled.

[Klingoncelt]

looking at stranger a bit more:

dislike 48, tentative; ditto 97, with a poor question in that post
the on/off interaction with dreal was basically null on him; it's fakable, but at least suggests actual curiosity with respect to his alignment
224 is an easy post to make, but is still a decent post
229 basically where I'm at
262 is ok, by itself not hugely meaningful but suggests at least SOME curiosity about his stated suspect. would have been better with follow-up

overall nothing impressive, but nothing that really makes me want to lynch him either
UNVOTE:

Pease use the post links, no way am I crawling through the game to find he posts: [post][/post ].

[Klingoncelt]

*Please.

[Klingoncelt]

statistic:

drealmer suggests no-lynch on D1 9/10 times! scum or town! just to gauge reactions usually, or, ya know, if I'm a cop

it's a bastard game, I'm up for anything though, including no-lynch, as horrible of an idea as it typically is, this game is a NO STANDARDS FREE-FOR-ALL!!! I mean as long as you can justify it as town, and I do, because it's a bastard game and who knows, maybe no-lynch gives us a boon?!

I played a bastard game once where the only way to win was to no-lynch...otherwise the inept doctor kept killing all of their targets thinking 'omg I failed my save AGAIN?!' and we kept thinking there was scum in the game because of the deaths. Good times.

It's not a good idea to try and outguess the Mod based on another Mod's game, especially this early on Day1 when you have virtually no information.

[Klingoncelt]

@Kling - Snarky is always a lurker. Unless you have a policy of lynching lurkers your vote is bad, and even if it is a PL it's bad.
View on Mcnugget?
I think the opportunist on Gamma is real though.

I was in a game with him where he posted a good bit. He was kinda noobish and his reads were off, but when he died he flipped Town.

I expect to see more from him. I know he can do it.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Kling - Snarky is always a lurker. Unless you have a policy of lynching lurkers your vote is bad, and even if it is a PL it's bad.
View on Mcnugget?
I think the opportunist on Gamma is real though.

I was in a game with him where he posted a good bit. He was kinda noobish and his reads were off, but when he died he flipped Town.

I expect to see more from him. I know he can do it.

Who?

[Klingoncelt]

PUPPER

, is your vote on Gamma real, or is it leftover RVS?

*growls at GE*

I see. Thanks.

[Klingoncelt]

Thinking on it while McMenno's vote was bad his play feels like his townplay.

I disagree, and not because he's voting me.

It's because I'm his sole focus, he's got tunnelvision. But he's not asking me any questions, he's doing the tunnel thing wrong. He's an experienced player, he knows better than to lurktunnel.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm literally dealing with the incarnation of Donald Trump's persona on Twitter.

Mod: Sorry, I really

really

hate to do this but I have no will to play with this prick. If you don't think his actions are enough for at least a warning, please replace me.

For everyone else in the game, if you agree with me in some sense about his behavior - not even regarding lynching Vedith - please say something.

I can't help ya, kid.

On my homesite the death threats are real. Of those of us that migrated over here, I think I'm the only one that never ate a ban here.

Briefly my sig read: "Fuck you. In the eye. With a mangy, sore-covered, flea-infested rabid sewer rat that's been infected with fireaids."

My advice to you would be to grow thicker skin. It's a tough world.

[Klingoncelt]

@Kling - Snarky is always a lurker. Unless you have a policy of lynching lurkers your vote is bad, and even if it is a PL it's bad.
View on Mcnugget?
I think the opportunist on Gamma is real though.

I was in a game with him where he posted a good bit. He was kinda noobish and his reads were off, but when he died he flipped Town.

I expect to see more from him. I know he can do it.

Who?

Snarky.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Kling - Snarky is always a lurker. Unless you have a policy of lynching lurkers your vote is bad, and even if it is a PL it's bad.
View on Mcnugget?
I think the opportunist on Gamma is real though.

I was in a game with him where he posted a good bit. He was kinda noobish and his reads were off, but when he died he flipped Town.

I expect to see more from him. I know he can do it.

Who?

Snarky.

I've never seen active Snarky.

[Klingoncelt]

I think PUP is Town, I'm not sold on Gamma being Scum, I think Snarky and McMenno are Scum.