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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:31 am

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Gamma is scum
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:33 am

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He's being super noncommital in his group because he doesn't want to expose himself by killing off both townies
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:33 am

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I still feel Frank is the most likely scum
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:34 am

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*in our group
If I were scum it would be more advantageous to lynch Howard, as Frank would be easier to chainML
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:35 am

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In post 328, Gamma Emerald wrote:If I were scum it would be more advantageous to lynch Howard, as Frank would be easier to chainML
That's a lie and it's the opposite
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:36 am

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Also 'if I were scum I would do x' arguments are dumb and usually come from scum
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:37 am

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Howard isn't the one acting super scummy.
If I were scum I'd lynch the townier one in the 1v1. It's simply the best play logistically.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:37 am

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In post 330, Dunnstral wrote:Also 'if I were scum I would do x' arguments are dumb and usually come from scum
I've done it several times as town
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:39 am

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How come you were acting like you were trying to figure frank out but don't look at howard and stay parked on frank all game

Howard, you need to reconsider

Frank, you also need to reconsider
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:40 am

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=68345
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Also this reeeks of desperation by Dunnstral.
Lynch him in the Power group.
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:41 am

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In post 333, Dunnstral wrote:How come you were acting like you were trying to figure frank out but don't look at howard and stay parked on frank all game

Howard, you need to reconsider

Frank, you also need to reconsider
Because it seemed he was actually casing Howard on better things at one point
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:43 am

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In post 334, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also this reeeks of desperation by Dunnstral.
Lynch him in the Power group.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:50 pm

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Arc suggested a NL but that will lead to mafia choosing so in my eyes we have to choose someone. I dont like that Arc suggested a NL with the mafia rule being in effect. This triplicate setup is throwing me for a loop.

VOTE: Arc
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:57 pm

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Wisdom group needs to reevaluate
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:16 am

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@SAJ: You know you're putting
3!
people at L-1, not just Arc...
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:22 am

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In post 324, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 323, Dunnstral wrote:Howard, why are you voting Frank over Gamma?

I think Gamma is voting Frank because then he can push the lynch onto you the next day. I do not think Frank is scum
I'm actually not sure what I would do if Frank flipped town. I'm with qubixes a bit but I kinda feel there's a very slight chance it is TvT and my group is the all-town group
You are getting it wrong. I'm not saying this is SvT. I am saying that if Frank flips town, I would need to re-evaluate Howard (and probably you and Lane as well), because a large part of his work which I read as town is based on his argument with Frank. It's not a hard argument to make as scum, because it is mainly based on Frank's banana play. Re-evaluate != Scum.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:07 am

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@Dunnstral: Why is that you care so much about Wisdom, and don't care at all what happens to my group?
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:31 am

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In post 330, Dunnstral wrote:Also 'if I were scum I would do x' arguments are dumb and usually come from scum
In post 149, Dunnstral wrote: Hint: If I'm scum I just let arc get lynched
Oh, so you're usually scum then. Good to know!

@Jin: I think you're making a mistake. I prefer you unvote for obvious reasons, but also I'm convinced that Dunn is a much better vote than Arc.

I understand that Arc suggesting NL looks scummy on the surface, but I think of it this way: if she knows the rules, it sounds rather silly to suggest a NL, because so far it is obvious that at least some other people are also reading the rules and she is sure going to get called out on it. So, from that I conclude she is very unlikely to be realizing that she is suggesting something that helps mafia. Could she suggest it as mafia while unaware of the rules, maybe. I think it's just as likely though that she would think in that direction as town.

I think we should be lynching Frank+GL+Dunn today, with the most probable scum team GL+Dunn.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:34 am

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In post 337, Secret Agent Jin wrote:Arc suggested a NL but that will lead to mafia choosing so in my eyes we have to choose someone. I dont like that Arc suggested a NL with the mafia rule being in effect. This triplicate setup is throwing me for a loop.

VOTE: Arc

what? that's no logic. why would i say No lynch if i am scum. Won't I rather choose to have one of you get lynched instead?

i only said that no lynch because i don't think either of you in my team is scum. Don't you forget the 33.333% possibility of everyone in one of the group being town.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:44 am

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@Arc: That is exactly what you're able to do as scum if you no-lynch... As mafia you would get to choose who dies of the three of you.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:59 am

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In post 344, qubixes wrote:@Arc: That is exactly what you're able to do as scum if you no-lynch... As mafia you would get to choose who dies of the three of you.
Exactly. I am seeing this my perspective.

Did you see the way Jin & Dunn votes on me and the way they testing each other looks like something only a townie could do it. I am town and I can say that to myself for sure. I read the rules twice to ensure that i understand the game. I am saying no lynch because i believe there is no scum in my team.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:00 am

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Think about this, If I am scum. would i suggest something this risky?
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:08 am

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What is the benefit of doing a no-lynch as town though? You get 1 extra NK analysis opportunity basically, but if you assume this is a plus, scum can randomize it and you don't get the benefit anymore. So it's only any good if scum are making a bad NK.

You have to be really very sure (95%+) that you are in the no scum group to even consider it, because it hurts a lot if you are wrong. I think Dunn can very well behave the way he did with the testing each other out. He tried to get town cred for it by saying he wouldn't do it as scum. That in itself is a pretty big red flag for me. Do you think scum!Dunn couldn't behave that way?
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:10 am

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In post 347, qubixes wrote:What is the benefit of doing a no-lynch as town though? You get 1 extra NK analysis opportunity basically, but if you assume this is a plus, scum can randomize it and you don't get the benefit anymore. So it's only any good if scum are making a bad NK.

You have to be really very sure (95%+) that you are in the no scum group to even consider it, because it hurts a lot if you are wrong. I think Dunn can very well behave the way he did with the testing each other out. He tried to get town cred for it by saying he wouldn't do it as scum. That in itself is a pretty big red flag for me. Do you think scum!Dunn couldn't behave that way?

I see your point. If i am forced to see the scum between Jin & Dun. I think it's more likely Dun who may be scum in the group.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:13 am

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I could use a little bump myself
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?

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