Open 657: JK9++ (Game over)

[Charloux]

Tiger isn't the SK so you can cross him out. Unless you really think all 3 scum are in the VT's.

[Creature]

Tiger can still be strongman and

ninja

SK.

[Creature]

Who we going for? We are going round in circles here.

Yeah, we don't want to lynch the villager from the pool.

[Creature]

Kling, Secret, Tiger, null.

Kop, Lane, townlean.

So, to summarise,
Scum: Spade, Creature
Null: Charl, Kling, Secret, Tiger
Town: Bang, Twisz, Mini, Gamma, Kop, Lane

[Creature]

How likely alban put one of his scum buddies in the null category?

[Kop]

Ok. Well I'm telling you the truth about my role, I can't defend myself any clearer than that. I don't know what else I can say to show that I'm telling the truth.

VOTE: Tiger Moth

[Creature]

UNVOTE:

[Creature]

Hey MDS, what do you think?

[Creature]

Also, do you think mafia JOAT would've used one of his powers N1?

[Kop]

Tiger isn't the SK so you can cross him out. Unless you really think all 3 scum are in the VT's.

What gives you this assumption?

[Kop]

Tiger isn't the SK so you can cross him out. Unless you really think all 3 scum are in the VT's.

What gives you this assumption?

That Tiger isn't the SK.

[MiniDeathStar]

I was writing a big EV table with all possible outcomes and it looks like some scenarios in which 2 townies die tonight put us in a scum draw.

[Charloux]

How likely alban put one of his scum buddies in the null category?

~90% in my opinion

[Charloux]

Tiger isn't the SK so you can cross him out. Unless you really think all 3 scum are in the VT's.

What gives you this assumption?

That Tiger isn't the SK.

MDS checked him last night, but he didn't visit anybody. I forgot about the ninja passive the SK is likely to have.(Like, who takes a bulletproof over ninja and strongman?)

[Creature]

Then Tiger and SAJ.

[Creature]

If the SK thinks scum isn't interested in killing him, he'd rather be strongninja.

[MiniDeathStar]

We're at 6:2:1 right now, mislynch + 2 town deaths = 3:2:1, which is LYLO-1. As in, scum draw.

No lynch + 2 town deaths = 4:2:1 -> 4:1:1 / 4:2 -> 3:1:1 / 3:2 / 2:1:1 -> 3:1 / scum draw -> 2:1.

We might actually have a LYLO situation *right now*.

[Creature]

If bang and I live and we're both vig, maybe we're not exactly screwed.

[MiniDeathStar]

Um guys you're forgetting that SK!moth killing alban makes no sense anyway. She would want to kill a scum read.

[Kop]

Tiger isn't the SK so you can cross him out. Unless you really think all 3 scum are in the VT's.

What gives you this assumption?

That Tiger isn't the SK.

MDS checked him last night, but he didn't visit anybody. I forgot about the ninja passive the SK is likely to have.(Like, who takes a bulletproof over ninja and strongman?)

I forgot that MDS said she checked him. But it's dependant on what he picked then.

She hasn't been vocal much this game, so may have chosen Ninja and just cruised along knowing that she won't be shot at ahead of the more vocal players. Just a thought.

[Kop]

Um guys you're forgetting that SK!moth killing alban makes no sense anyway. She would want to kill a scum read.

Huh? Alban was scum read and flipped scum. Or am I reading this post wrong?

[MiniDeathStar]

Btw are we really going to assume that all scums have claimed VT? Sounds close to impossible to me.

I'm townreading Creature. I think lane and bang are both scum.

Um guys you're forgetting that SK!moth killing alban makes no sense anyway. She would want to kill a scum read.

Huh? Alban was scum read and flipped scum. Or am I reading this post wrong?

Alban was scumread by Klingon and Ted and somewhat by lane. Tiger moth was townreading him. SKs don't shot their townreads on Night 1, they go for who they think is scum.

[Creature]

lane could also jailkeep you twice.

[MiniDeathStar]

lane could also be fakeclaiming JK.

[Creature]

Then you'd realise you're not getting "no result"s