Open 657: JK9++ (Game over)

[MiniDeathStar]

I know PR!scum will lose with that strategy, but if the PR!scum survives, town will most likely lose and PR!scum could still hope the other scum decides to not hit him.

That would be incredibly stupid. VT!Scum has 67% winrate by shooting PR!scum and (33% draw 17% win) by shooting a real VT.

[Creature]

Okay, but what if Charloux is town vengeful and vengekills town? What is town chance?

[Charloux]

What if i'm not online when i'm hammered?

[MiniDeathStar]

That's what I am worried, not about the scum that will lose.

See, the difference is that tomorrow I *would* win if I were scum and Charlie vengekilled you. But today I can't, so I want to lynch him today.

Plus, I'm not 100% certain that you Creature are the PR scum. I still think there's a chance the villager scum didn't kill Kop but Charlie did.

[MiniDeathStar]

What if i'm not online when i'm hammered?

I think twilight lasts until you submit a kill. My old site used vengeful roles and their lynch extended twilight to 24h when it was normally 3h.

[Creature]

What if i'm not online when i'm hammered?

Not venging anyone is way better than venging town at this point.

[Charloux]

What if i'm not online when i'm hammered?

I think twilight lasts until you submit a kill. My old site used vengeful roles and their lynch extended twilight to 24h when it was normally 3h.

Twilight here lasts until the mod comes online. So, it could be 5 minutes or a whopping 2 days.

[MiniDeathStar]

It's not. Not venging takes away from town's odds and gives it to the PR!scum's odds.

[MiniDeathStar]

(Because town has way lower odds to instawin via both scum gunning each other to death)

[Tiger moth]

I'll reply to 1996 later but to give Charl the chance to subit his vengekill I'll hammer now.

Vote: Charloux

[MiniDeathStar]

What if i'm not online when i'm hammered?

I think twilight lasts until you submit a kill. My old site used vengeful roles and their lynch extended twilight to 24h when it was normally 3h.

Twilight here lasts until the mod comes online. So, it could be 5 minutes or a whopping 2 days.

Well I don't think that makes sense. If the mod is always online, vengefuls would be non-functional. I'm pretty sure he'll give you time to submit a kill.

[Creature]

Going 2:1:1 to night is the worst thing that could happen for town.

[Charloux]

@Mod: I want to vengekill MDS

[MiniDeathStar]

[MiniDeathStar]

Well, Creature, I hope you shoot right tonight because I'd hate to lose the game after everything I did.

MAFIA PLEASE SHOOT CREATURE WHEN I FLIP TOWN. THIS IS YOUR BEST SHOT AT THE WIN REGARDLESS OF WHOM CREATURE KILLS.

[Creature]

Why are you assuming the SK actually claimed PR?

[MiniDeathStar]

As for you, Charlie, congratulations on making the most stupid move ever made this game. I'll make sure I never enter another game with you.

[Charloux]

It's just a game, why get so worked up?

[Creature]

Btw, if MDS flips scum, should I risk a shot tonight?

[MiniDeathStar]

Why are you assuming the SK actually claimed PR?

Because I don't think you're mafia. What does it matter what I think now?

Spoiler: Me irl

[Creature]

We're going to night with 3:1 (with me probably dying as conftown), next day will be a 2:1 LyLo with no clears. However, if I shoot and hit the wrong person, scum will auto-win 1:1.

[Charloux]

She won't flip scum, i'm not vengeful, was just having fun a bit.

[Charloux]

The reason MDS is still alive was because i wanted to see how much time would pass before she realizes i am scum

[Creature]

MDS, should I still risk a shot tonight?

[Charloux]

If you don't kill, tomorrow will be 4 people with 3VT's. So, yeah, shoot!