Micro 660: Triplicate Mafia - Game Over

[Not_Mafia]

Dunnstral

was

Power Lynched

day 1, he was a

Vanilla Townie

FrankJaeger

was

Wisdom Lynched

day 1, he was a

Vanilla Townie

quibxes

was

Courage Lynched

day 1, he was a

Vanilla Townie

Day 2 will being in

(expired on 2016-12-01 14:00:00)

[Not_Mafia]

lane0168

has been

killed

night 1

Spoiler: They were

Vanilla Townie

[/spoiler]

[Not_Mafia]

VC 2.00

ArcAngel9 (0)-

Secret Agent Jin (0)-

HowardRoark (0)-

Gamma Emerald (0)-

Guilty Lion (0)-

Not Voting (5)-

ArcAngel9, Secret Agent Jin, HowardRoark, GammaEmerald, Guilty Lion

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-16 01:00:00) - Dec 16th 01:00 GMT

[ArcAngel9]

Wow.. Very well played scum so far.

So the last two scum has to be between Howard, Gamma & Guilty. I knew for sure there was no scum in my team. Jin is still town to me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually, I kinda suspect Arc, as she was in a position to ride out the first day, as the other two were dictating everything pretty much.

[Secret Agent Jin]

It has to be between Howard, Gamma, and Guilty. Arc didnt do anything suspicious D1. Who would have reason to kill Lane? Lane suspected GL so he could have kill Lane but would he kill within his own "group"? What is everyone's opinion on Howard? He hasnt posted as much as other people.

@Gamma: What did Arc do to make you suspect her?

[Gamma Emerald]

It has to be between Howard, Gamma, and Guilty. Arc didnt do anything suspicious D1. Who would have reason to kill Lane? Lane suspected GL so he could have kill Lane but would he kill within his own "group"? What is everyone's opinion on Howard? He hasnt posted as much as other people.

@Gamma: What did Arc do to make you suspect her?

It's more what she didn't do: I don't feel she actually tried to gamesort.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm interested in GL's reads, as he's alone in his group.

[HowardRoark]

@Secret Agent Jin: Did you just copy and past ArcAngel9's scum list?

Is scum pat on the back still a tell here?
VOTE: ArcAngel9

I need to do a bit more reading.

[Gamma Emerald]

Howard take that vote off right now. We are in LyLo.

[HowardRoark]

UNVOTE:
+1 Gamma Emerald

[Secret Agent Jin]

@Secret Agent Jin: Did you just copy and past ArcAngel9's scum list?

No i didnt, there is only 5 people left and Arc has given me no reason to suspect her so that leaves 3 people.

Howard take that vote off right now. We are in LyLo.

We have to be cautious who we vote but in the end we do have to vote someone or we lose.

@Everyone: Who is the most scummy to everyone and your reasoning?

I am going to start ISOing and look for a reason to kill Lane.

[GuiltyLion]

well this got easier for me

I'm thinking Jin is scummier in Power because I don't feel he was ever looking for scum in his group, the way he hopped between Dunn/Arc throughout the day looks to me like scum willing to settle on either lynch. His vote in 381 is particularly bad, there's no reason for town!Jin to be making a point about how he feels uneasy with his vote because Dunn is a "good player".

Howard probably the other scum over Gamma. He made a show of unvoting Frank because he didn't like the qubixes wagon, but then makes no mention of it again when he put the vote back on Frank. Also, he never did explain his accusations towards me in 131 - still waiting to hear why "reversing a read" is scummy.

@Jin/@Arc - if you two are townreading eachother, then I should be confirmed scum to both of you. Why didn't you explicitly address this?

also @Howard - what does "+1 Gamma Emerald" mean? Are you suggesting he is town for telling you to unvote?

[GuiltyLion]

I am going to start ISOing and look for a reason to kill Lane.

also this is something that scum say way more often than town, makes em look busy

but I'd love to hear what you come up with and how it implicates me

[GuiltyLion]

I don't like how SAJ gives the early townreads on his whole group, he's playing too nice it reads like he's not interested in finding scum

it's probably SAJ+Howard

some 400 posts later I still feel the exact same way, and neither of them have seemed interested in changing my mind since I first said this

[HowardRoark]

Yes, Gamma Emerald gets town cred for the unvote now post.

I still don't understand the qubixes wagon and it looks like I won't get explanations. Read reversals are acceptable, but there seemed to be no substance to yours, GuiltyLion; there's also more than that in my post against you. With the mostly absent slot that is now confirmed town, reading that group was more difficult and the lynch feels scum-dirty or town-lazy. My scumhunting should be influencing reads, I wasted enough time yesterday fighting against a town FrankJaeger.

I don't believe that thinking about the NK is a scumtell. One group had to come down to a single player. Based on yesterday's reads and probable D2 lynches who might it make sense to leave alone? The scum in a group or the last townie of the all town one? I don't have that answer, but maybe it's out there. Why are you discouraging somebody's attempt at hunting? Allow it and respond to the results.

Still trying to figure this out.

[Secret Agent Jin]

So Howard, let me get this right. You think your group was all town, GL thinks his team was all town, and Arc and I think our team is all town. Two people HAVE to be scum out of the five of us. If we focus, avoid throwing random votes out, and comb through posts then we should be able to pull up some convincing information.

[GuiltyLion]

Yes, Gamma Emerald gets town cred for the unvote now post.

why do you think scum!Gamma couldn't or wouldn't make that same post?

I don't believe that thinking about the NK is a scumtell. One group had to come down to a single player. Based on yesterday's reads and probable D2 lynches who might it make sense to leave alone? The scum in a group or the last townie of the all town one? I don't have that answer, but maybe it's out there. Why are you discouraging somebody's attempt at hunting? Allow it and respond to the results.

I'll allow it - I did say I was looking forward to it - but I also won't be surprised when he comes out of it calling me scum, and I was also hoping to get more of a reaction out of him. FMPOV it's obvious the NK is meant to make me a viable mislynch for today, and I'm actually surprised no one has tried pushing it harder yet. I think scum is treading water and hoping they won't have to take the lead in trying to push me, such as Jin not answering my question about calling me confscum directly.

[GuiltyLion]

You think your group was all town, GL thinks his team was all town, and Arc and I think our team is all town. Two people HAVE to be scum out of the five of us. If we focus, avoid throwing random votes out, and comb through posts then we should be able to pull up some convincing information.

no, I

know

my group was all town. this is more wishy-washy fluff from SAJ, and I'm tempted to say it's a scumslip in saying that I (GL) "think" my group is town. If Jin thought I was scum he'd be accusing me of lying, if Jin thought I was town he'd just say I was town. The fact that he said I "think" my group is town when I'm the only one left means he's trying to hide knowledge about my alignment.

[Gamma Emerald]

Looking back some of SAJ's actions look like he's buddying up to AA.

[Secret Agent Jin]

I think scum is treading water and hoping they won't have to take the lead in trying to push me, such as Jin not answering my question about calling me confscum directly.

Are you refering to this question? "if you two are townreading eachother, then I should be confirmed scum to both of you. Why didn't you explicitly address this?"

To tell the truth this is my thought process. There is two teams that have scum in them and if you are town that means my group and Gamma's group have scum in them. If my group has scum then i will be blown away because Arc laid low on Day 1. My true feelings are that there is scum between Gamma/Howard and the other scum is a toss up between GL and Arc. The main question is who had the motivation to kill Lane? I think the Lane kill puts pressure on GL as the other two players in his group flipped town and it lends a lot of speculation to if GLs group was the true all town group. I think it would be a very stupid move for GL to target Lane as the pressure and spotlight instant is on him. Scum hates to be in the spotlight but GL might hope we come to that conclusion and take the risk to kill Lane. At this point i dont know which it is.

Looking back some of SAJ's actions look like he's buddying up to AA.

Whats the ultimate difference between Howard giving you a TR and myself giving Arc a TR? As this day phase has played out so far, i am becoming more suspicious of Arc as she has laid low for D1 and i might have gave her a wring preemptive TR.

[Gamma Emerald]

Howard was likely buddying me too. That's an easy comment to fake as scum, in fact IVE SEEN scum fake it.

[Secret Agent Jin]

Howard was likely buddying me too. That's an easy comment to fake as scum, in fact IVE SEEN scum fake it.

Why would that commebt be anywhere near AI? I was pointing out that i wasnt the only one to buddy and then you say that the comment is easily faked by scum? What exactly is there to fake about comparing two TR situations?

[Gamma Emerald]

Howard was likely buddying me too. That's an easy comment to fake as scum, in fact IVE SEEN scum fake it.

Why would that commebt be anywhere near AI? I was pointing out that i wasnt the only one to buddy and then you say that the comment is easily faked by scum? What exactly is there to fake about comparing two TR situations?

I thought you were talking about the "+1" he did. Are you talking about Day 1?

[ArcAngel9]

Howard is scum