Open 660 - White Flag (Game Over)

[keyenpeydee]

And it's funny that you have moved on on your case on Aubrey and since someone had said that I'm scummy, you're clearly jumping on me. And it's also funny you're saying that I'm supporting a case back, when you're also doing it. Supporting alban's case on me by sheeping him.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Woah there partner

You think alban is the only person who's noticed you?

pedit: double ninja'd

Why are you reacting so strongly to my one vote? Are you scared of being voted by the most suspicious looking player? That doesn't seem like a natural town reaction to me at all.

[keyenpeydee]

It's because I felt like your being jumpy on me.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I'm not sheeping alban though, he just finished his post about you before me. What he thinks of you did not influence my read on you. You talk about my case on Aubrey as though it was a well-developed, consistent suspicion that I suddenly dropped.
There's nothing funny about taking a step back to reevaluate the game to this point and try a new angle, especially so early on when I'm trying to figure players out. It would be amazing if I could be right all the time with my gut reads D1, but I'm not.

[keyenpeydee]

Despite your vote of me, You very much well explained yourself. I'm town reading you. However, Your gut isn't right this time. I am not scum and I know you're not either.

[LicketyQuickety]

Getting caught up.

Why is an RVS bandwagon pointless?

I did say:

seemingly

Plus it sounded more dramatic this way!

First page quote. I should mention I haven't read any more of the game than this. First instinct tells me this is a Town post because it seems well reasoned out as a possible RVS reaction test. Aside from that, I agree with the sentiment that RVS BWs are usually utter shit and I think in this instance it comes from Town. IMO I think Town wouldn't be so quick to go against the norm and then defend their point with a snarky "ah, but..." attitude.

[LicketyQuickety]

Getting caught up.

Why is an RVS bandwagon pointless?

I did say:

seemingly

Plus it sounded more dramatic this way!

First page quote. I should mention I haven't read any more of the game than this. First instinct tells me this is a Town post because it seems well reasoned out as a possible RVS reaction test. Aside from that, I agree with the sentiment that RVS BWs are usually utter shit and I think in this instance it comes from Town. IMO I think Scum wouldn't be so quick to go against the norm and then defend their point with a snarky "ah, but..." attitude.

EBWOP. I do that a lot, lol. I've even been called Scum for doing such as well.

[LicketyQuickety]

UNVOTE: Transcend

My role is five-shot dayvig parity cop with the ability to jail and execute at night and I can detect lies as well as heal up to three players per night.

A little over the top don't you think?

[BTD6_maker]

As you probably know, LicketyQuickety has replaced Eric Rasputin.

[LicketyQuickety]

UNVOTE: Transcend

My role is five-shot dayvig parity cop with the ability to jail and execute at night and I can detect lies as well as heal up to three players per night.

Counter-claim! VOTE: Dave

Why did you unvote?

I am going to like you, I can tell.

P-Edit: Sorry for jumping in, its been a while since I played here (well, a couple months at least) so I am kinda excited.

[LicketyQuickety]

Transcend is no longer the biggest wagon... ;-;
VOTE: Dave

Obvscum with Transcend. Unvoted biggest wagon. Didn't want to leave your partner in such a bad spot, eh?

~Nyx

Are you scumreading me for unvoting a meme vote?

Obvious deflection. This was an easy game.

I'm having second thoughts.

[LicketyQuickety]

UNVOTE: oops that was l-1

I disagree that on priciple its not good to put someone at L-1 so early. The only time in my mind that an early L-1 is bad is if there could actually be an early lynch and to limit that. That said, I think this is at a point in the game where everyone hasn't posted yet so I understand the concern here.

[LicketyQuickety]

Also I have no reason to give Aubrey botd here

VOTE: Aubrey

And so far you have no reason to vote me. Least you haven't given one.

Why complain about an RVS vote. (Just trying to spur on discussion here).

[LicketyQuickety]

Nah. If they want it cool, but it'd only kill the surprise for when I do (or if I am) facing off against scum you. I'm also not that big of a fan for meta reads being the sole reason for which someone reads/votes another. Though I get the odd feeling your town and scum play probably aren't to far off from one another. Or you being one to change up your meta here and there.

newbie spotted.

[alban]

Top scum read Keyen.
Active lurking and laundering.

Suspicious early posts by Aubrey. Not of late though.
IGMEOY.

Why no vote?

VOTE: Keyen

[LicketyQuickety]

your push on dave is too opportunistic

and dave's play doesn't look scum-motivated, rather, lynch-bait-y.

Well, I didn't buy his response. He says that his two votes were meme. But I don't see how the second self vote is a meme vote.

If he is lynch bating he is doing a good job.

This needs to be discussed.

[LicketyQuickety]

Well, I didn't buy his response. He says that his two votes were meme. But I don't see how the second self vote is a meme vote.

If he is lynch bating he is doing a good job.

Why would scum vote for themselves seriously?

Reaction test here or playing dumb? Obviously there are occasions where it is correct play to self vote (at least for Scum).

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Transcend

Reason: First one to post

Why did you thought you needed to give a reason?

Alright guys, Instead of dragging this out why don't we all come to an agreement on who should we lynch? Getting 7 votes is hard with a 13 player game.

I think there is a lot of time to do it. Why are you hasty?

Well, it is D1 ... Lets just say that every move I make is based on gut ... I really wont have anything to go on unless someone gets lynched

Stealing Trans' words, eh? Good.


Eric is really a mislynch. Cant talk about 'why' or 'how' as it will be discussing about on-going games but know this he's extremely un-helpful town but seems like he is actually trying to do something here.


Dave 's self-vote seemed a bit of 'Reverse-Psych' mixed in it like town will think a scum wont self-vote. He is either a scum who is trying to do mind games or a town who was just frustrated and annoyed with the wagon on him. And i dont think a town will be that frustrated to self-vote.

Not voting him rn . He might be at L-1?

Psudo info IMO. Sometimes that has a place, but here its either weak play or Scum.

[LicketyQuickety]

Well, I didn't buy his response. He says that his two votes were meme. But I don't see how the second self vote is a meme vote.

If he is lynch bating he is doing a good job.

Why would scum vote for themselves seriously?

I saw it as a (bad) attempt to stall his own wagon by putting on a suicidal show. So they are not seriously trying to lynch themselves but the vote has some agenda behind it.

This is the second time I have seen an excuse for misinterpreting by this slot.

[LicketyQuickety]

Eric is prob town, dave probably town too. Both seem like lynchbaity players. Self-voting is done by extremely good scum players as scum tactic though, so if dave is very experienced at this. Otherwise very common among newb town players.

Yes, I have seen this before. I wouldn't say it HAS to to come from "extremely good scum players," however. I think of it more like a playstyle than anything and just like players in general, there are better and worse people who do that playstyle. At least in my experience.

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Eric Rasputin
Seems to be posturing.

Can you elaborate on this?

He's making suggestions but not acting on them.

You strike me like you are bored in this game. Any truth to that?

[LicketyQuickety]

@chill town. For now.

I liked your reads on Eric/Dave

Something feels off about cracker here, i just don't know what.

Hi Transcend, do you remember our last game together?

I do hope eventually you have more than gut to go on.

[alban]

Alban, was just thinking the same (SR) about keyen on the reread. Not sure what you mean by laundering but the posts do look fluffy. I don't think I saw any accusation of his yet either. He's letting others make pushes and is picking ones that look supported to back. I don't like 119 either. I was clearly being serious about my Aubrey read at the time.

VOTE: Keyen

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Laundering

159 laundering
All other posts active lurking
Giving generous town passes to a lot of players. Buddying?

[LicketyQuickety]

:/ your version of quickening the game is not progressive though for the town. You're just mindlessly voting someone "

Just because.

" Your basis is just, lets just lynch someone for little to no reason in order to move onto day 2. Tell me good sir, what do you hope to gain or learn by that? Your play is nothing more than lethargic day one play that is either coming from a lazy townie, a townie who doesn't know how to work from nothing, or scum.

Your not really trying to catch scum. Your not really trying to find likely townies. Your just a blah member right now doing a lot of nothing but complaining about day one, or trying to seem like a progressive townie as scum.

So far I'm not a fan of you or SSBM. I actually have a slight town lean for Dave right now. I like the fact he went after Transcend, and for the reasons provided even if I did not aggree with his suspicions against Transcend.

This is actually not a bad post and I say that as the person being attacked. I agree that my slot hasn't been the pinnacle of good play, but I replaced this slot because I read it as Town and it is. I especially like the last paragraph.

[alban]

Is Lethargy a hydra acc?

We still aren't sure what's aubrey's alignment is. hmmm

Oh yeah we don't have any PRs here so I think this game would last long.

I hope you're not scum, Toto.

tbh i don't find any scummy atm. mostly i read as not serious.

Anyone played with Keyen before?
Does this fit in with his usual playing style?
This=short posts, numerous posts, easy distribution of towncreds, etc.