Mini Theme 1859: D&D Curse of Strahd Mafia - Mason Topic

[Persivul]

I disagree.

I'd rather vote pine than creature I think that creatures likely to be town from early game stuff and his posting now feels off the cuff sure it's easy stuff to post as either alignment but that's how he solves games.

You misunderstand. I'm for Pine at this point. I'm saying that if there's reason to change that read and no one else is looking particularly scummy, creature is a good PL. He doesn't solve games. he's just a kid goofing around, which isn't a big deal now, but you don't want in lylo.

[Persivul]

And I meant I disagree that they're good policy lynches in general but dunn claiming miller means that he does need to go eventually if that's what you meant.

I've seen dunn self-lynch. I've seen creature miss a big scum mistake in lylo and lynch town, admitting that he was just bored and wanted the game over. Those are good reasons IMO for PLs. But see my post on Pine, hopefully it doesn't come down to PL.

Miller claims used to make me nervous but so far I've never seen one flip red.

[Persivul]

And I meant I disagree that they're good policy lynches in general but dunn claiming miller means that he does need to go eventually if that's what you meant.

I've seen dunn self-lynch. I've seen creature miss a big scum mistake in lylo and lynch town, admitting that he was just bored and wanted the game over. Those are good reasons IMO for PLs. But see my post on Pine, hopefully it doesn't come down to PL.

Miller claims used to make me nervous but so far I've never seen one flip red.

[Persivul]

Let's lynch pine.
I'll let you push it solo for now?

LOL - I should have read the whole thread before replying post by post.

With those claims (amulet and role), Pine's either bad town or bad scum.

[Persivul]

Not liking Jason's reaction - says yeah Pine's claims look bad, but he'd rather vote drealmerz with no explanation.

Will be interested in shaz's reaction to the Pine push.

[Persivul]

You might want to vote Pine now to build momentum. I want to see if a CW forms (probably on me) and if so who's on it.

[Persivul]

Tell me what you think of Pine's 523. I want to hear your opinion before I reply.

[culted]

Just got on gonna catch up now.

[culted]

523 isn't a terrible post.
He's scumreading you, and that stays consistent throughout the post.
He does give some reads. Which I agree sly, kuror and shaz seem kinda town.

More torn now.

drealmerz is scum discuss.

[culted]

Solid town: Persivul, Creature, shaddowez

Townish: JasonWazza, kuror0, SlySly

Meh: BRantz, Dunnstral, KuroiXHF, Pine

Scummish: Shaziro

Scum: drealmerz7

[Persivul]

523 isn't a terrible post.

Yeah, that's what I thought at first too, hence the request.

Rereading it though, I like it less. "Healing myself isn't a guarantee, as my role PM suggests that there are conditions and abilities which could stack to defeat it." Why would you give scum a road map on how to kill you? "That's why I said it is "unlikely" I would get to use the amulet, as it would necessitate me surviving long enough to need recharging." If he had just kept his mouth shut, scum would have targeted him tonight, and he would have needed the recharge. So I'm still not buying it.

The thing that's bothering me is the lack of a CW (although I haven't caught up yet - maybe one has developed.)

drealmerz is scum discuss.

I don't like drealmerz, but can't put my finger on why and build a case.

[Persivul]

Dreal's 554 is bad - pine isn't scummy, but yeah he is, but no he's not, but pers is worse. This could be the push for the CW, with disclaimers in case the pine lynch does go through.

[Persivul]

Made a push on drealmerz - not sure if I should switch my vote. Not going to for now. Pine has been all after-the-fact just-so stories regarding his claims and the amulet search thing. It just sounds like scum caught and floundering to me. There's a chance it was really bad town play I suppose. But seriously, if scum have reason to target you, and you can self heal, that's a fantastic position as town - if you just keep your mouth shut about the self heal. The only reason to make that claim is scum preemptively explaining why they're not NK'd.

[culted]

I feel like it's so obvious that we're masons. lol

[culted]

If pine's scum I'm embarassed for the town that were around and voted scum to get a power boost.

Wonder if it's actually mad OP.

I'm thinking we're good to make the wagons pine/dreal and see who moves. Not really confident on anything else flipping scum.

Shaz's creature vote was bad don't tell it wasn't, though.

[Persivul]

I feel like it's so obvious that we're masons. lol

That's not necessarily a bad thing. Claiming might not be bad. As I've thought about it, keeping masons hidden is obviously good in a game with lots of VTs. Since this is presumably role madness, if we claim, we put targets on our backs, but we'd be taking bullets for other roles that might be more useful, and also somewhat provable as the game goes on.

[Persivul]

What are the chances both pine and dreal are scum? In that case both wagons will likely stall and they'll both come out less suspicious for it.

[culted]

Not great to be blunt.

Decided to actually read kuror's iso; wanna take a look and let me know if I'm seeing things?

[culted]

We also probably don't need to claim yet. Wait until tomorrow maybe so I can get the next item.

BP woulda been great for either of us kind of a shame.

[culted]

Actually thinking about it how would us claiming day 1 and then becoming essentially invincible be balanced at all?

[culted]

If kuror's scum then pine is town. Cuz kuror is the only one who pushed to get the item and that was based on him -wanting info-

I don't like pine derails the derp that might've happened there if kuror's scum angling for that.

[culted]

I don't think pine*

[Persivul]

Not great to be blunt.

Decided to actually read kuror's iso; wanna take a look and let me know if I'm seeing things?

kuror is frequently lynch bait D1. I need more time for votes etc. to read her.

[Persivul]

We also probably don't need to claim yet. Wait until tomorrow maybe so I can get the next item.

BP woulda been great for either of us kind of a shame.

The item didn't give BP, it just refilled charges. Pine is claiming the BP/self-heal as his role, not the item power. Item wouldn't have done anything for us - if it's really what Pine says it is.

[Persivul]

Actually thinking about it how would us claiming day 1 and then becoming essentially invincible be balanced at all?

How would we be invincible? We'd just be conftown subject to NK. My point is that, if we're killed, that let's others like trackers live.