When I get to a computer I will cite in several places where you are embarrassingly wrongIn post 485, Shadow_step wrote:No reasoning, you just want to lynch town.In post 482, Flubbernugget wrote:Shadow, in your mind, what was my reasoning for hopping on your wagon?
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Wrong.In post 526, Flubbernugget wrote:My wagon is a textbook counterwagon from a textbook scum read-
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Your mother is probably aIn post 528, nn30 wrote:
Wrong.In post 526, Flubbernugget wrote:My wagon is a textbook counterwagon from a textbook scum readvery nice person-
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Please rephrase in a way that is gramatically decipherable. I've read this three times and have no idea who you're addressing or about what.In post 532, Flubbernugget wrote:You literally just saw a counter to the wagon you started SCREAM into place and that's all you have to say?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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This is what confuses meIn post 534, Flubbernugget wrote:You started a wagon on tb/shadow_step
I sprung up really fast as a counterwagon
Why does this not bother you?
'you started SCREAM into place'
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You're doing a wonderful job misconstruing my meaning.In post 529, Flubbernugget wrote:So now effort is indicative of alignment
Even if it did take more effort to point the activity out, how is that easier for town to do as scum? How reliable is this tell? What fucking planet are you living on?
I'll rephrase so that my meaning is clear.
Scum have perfect information. That means that they are reading and interpreting the game in a totally different way from town. Town attempt to draw connections, scum read, and scum hunt, in a way that is very difficult to fake as scum (since you already know who is and isn't scum)!
So scum can either figure out how to fake town behavior really well
or
Make low effort scum reads (since they don't take nearly the amount of effort to fake).
Obviously, I think you're doing the latter.
P-edit - you didn't spring up as a counter-wagon that quickly actually. The TB wagon has basically been all we talked about today. We're FINALLY moving onto someone else with your wagon. There was no 'speed' involved.-
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I don't really believe in counterwagons anymore. I've seen that kind of logic backfire way more often than be helpful.In post 534, Flubbernugget wrote:You started a wagon on tb/shadow_step
I sprung up really fast as a counterwagon
Why does this not bother you?
It's like the phrase "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Bullshit. "The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, no more, no less." Same with analyzing counterwagons. They deserve independent analysis unless there's reason to think otherwise.
Besides, I'm not even sure it qualifies as a counterwagon. The TB/S_S wagon was losing steam and falling apart before the wagon on you started. It's not a counterwagon, it's a second wagon."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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In post 390, Flubbernugget wrote:
The fact that you were pushing really hard on an easy lynch d1 just to come screaming out of the gates with...this...looks really badIn post 200, ThinkBig wrote:At least one Mafioso is down - nice job to the town vigilante.
gerryoat is a shocking NK as he had only posted 3 times.
Let's try not to fuck this DP up by hammering someone by mistake.In post 391, Flubbernugget wrote:
Yes. It is common for players to be inactive during a big holiday week.In post 210, ThinkBig wrote:
Really? That's your first post this game?In post 209, Flubbernugget wrote:Prodge. Holiday weekend.
Would you like to flesh out an opinion of my alignment from this post, or just let your empty jab at it stand as is?In post 396, Flubbernugget wrote:
It's a common practice on other sites and TB doesn't seem to be bumbling hard enough for me to buy "absolute newbie"In post 264, Pine wrote:
Join date 2.5 months ago, post count 368. That's about as vulnerable to newbie tells as you get.In post 244, nn30 wrote:
So I guess the question is how new is TB?In post 243, Pine wrote:It's more Drealmerz's actions and general impressions than specific things about TB. However, Congratulating the Doc is a classic newbie scumslip though, and congratulating the Vig is an entirely fluent translation of that.
He's been here for over a year and has numerous completed games.
I think that means he's not going to make the 'newb scum slip'
Do you agree?
Though I'm scum reading the same post as you for different reasons so I wonder about the value in actually arguing thisIn post 407, Flubbernugget wrote:TB pushed an easy wagon to a premature lynch and was afterwards unable to formulate a single read
I town read penguins snark. I skipped reading most of the back and forth between you two
Shadow StepIn post 447, Flubbernugget wrote:VOTE: shadow step
L1
I'm just going to assume that Garmr's case won't be good enough to save nn from implication in the event this slot flips scum. I also don't like that attention is drifting from the slot
Can you better explain how you are interpreting these posts as having no reasoning in them?
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I'm not asking about the compilation (though it takes more effort to compile posts than to see a name appear on a different board)In post 498, Shadow_step wrote:I could do flubber but 1SVT is literally doing nothing.
I'm not even asking about effort I have made
You are saying shadow step is using effort in his reads
I am saying shadow step is ignoring my posts
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@Everyone:Please note that in 505, 447 is meant to be 482.
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What are you trying to say here?In post 535, Secret Agent Jin wrote:
This is what confuses meIn post 534, Flubbernugget wrote:You started a wagon on tb/shadow_step
I sprung up really fast as a counterwagon
Why does this not bother you?
'you started SCREAM into place'
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Flubber your whole logic falls flat on it's face because if I was scum I'd have voted you by now. There is lietrally no reason for me not to.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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I'm not indifferent, just realistic about how mafia is like herding cats. The fact that I also quite like the alternate wagon mitigates my annoyance too.In post 540, Flubbernugget wrote:*sigh*
Won't argue theory in thread. There's plenty of reason to believe shadow step is scum outside of wagons.
But you still seem incredibly indifferent to the fact that a wagon on your scum read is falling apart
Sure there is. He's your scumbuddy.In post 547, Shadow_step wrote:Flubber your whole logic falls flat on it's face because if I was scum I'd have voted you by now. There is lietrally no reason for me not to."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Yes. We would make it so goddamn easy.ShowThe shadows betray you, because they serve me.
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