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[Spiffeh]

@MoI for Andrius it's more of a lot of circumstantial or weak evidence that points to him being scum and it's not really too much about his posts

Like I think up crackpot theories in my head as to why Andrius could be scum and most of them work out
For instance:
Tammy dying when scum shouldn't really have an indication that he wouldn't be protecting her given that was what he vowed to do for the entire game

He himself not being dead despite having a dangerous role and being almost universally townread

Not to mention the neighborhood itself remaining intact for way longer than I expected despite it being the driving force behind the first two scum lynches (he would probably be the easiest for scum to kill because I can commute, you can block, and Tammy was supposedly being protected by him)

Most of his posts revolving around night actions plans with minimal scumhunting

Ok as I wrote this I convinced myself he's scum again, but I don't really have specific POSTS that make me think he's scum unlike Firebringer

I know someone (idr who) mentioned that his Goatmeal vote/vendetta kind of comes out of nowhere which could indicate bussing so that's something I need to look into.

PEdit: UT this should answer your question

[Spiffeh]

Basically I am more confident that Firebringer is scum than Andrius

[Spiffeh]

@UT

^ Spiff

Is this you having to choose the weakest town read or are you actually scum reading me?

[Untrod Tripod]

@UT

^ Spiff

Is this you having to choose the weakest town read or are you actually scum reading me?

it's my townread that I can't properly explain to myself other than "tone"

[Spiffeh]

Who are you scum reading again?

[Wraith]

Prod dodge this is slightly stalling and it feels like were at a point where it's like "pick a lynch and pray"

Hahahahahahaha I absolve my fucking self of blame here because I've tried my goddamn best to avoid it. But then I sit here staring at the goddamn thread every 20 minutes hoping someone will prove me fucking wrong and all I get 90% of the time is shitposts and trolling and "I JUST CAN'T DECIDE" garbage

I hate my life

[Untrod Tripod]

Who are you scum reading again?

I came into today wanting to lynch SpyreX

[MagnaofIllusion]

Basically I am more confident that Firebringer is scum than Andrius

Prod dodge this is slightly stalling and it feels like were at a point where it's like "pick a lynch and pray"

Hahahahahahaha I absolve my fucking self of blame here because I've tried my goddamn best to avoid it. But then I sit here staring at the goddamn thread every 20 minutes hoping someone will prove me fucking wrong and all I get 90% of the time is shitposts and trolling and "I JUST CAN'T DECIDE" garbage

I hate my life

Who are you scum reading again?

I came into today wanting to lynch SpyreX

[Firebringer]

I almost think spiffeh omgus is town.
can you give me more of why i am scum spiffeh?

[Untrod Tripod]

what was the point of that quote wall, MoI?

[Spiffeh]

The fact that you try to write off my valid concerns with your play today as OMGUS for one

@FB

[MagnaofIllusion]

Well that was a massive technical fuckup .. since I quoted above I'll just respond with @s ..

@Spif

- Ok, I see where you are going. My only question to you is - do you feel using craptastic logic is more likely to come from scum Fire than town Fire? I mean I can't say that he's ever been a fountain of well developed analysis and cases in the time I've known all his accounts.

@Wraith

- Stop whining. Seriously. Be the change you want to see ... and you never answered the question UT asked - what post gave you doubts?

@UT

- So let's chat. You are currently parked on a Spiffeh vote. The person you said was a Town-read you couldn't justify. And you say your top scum read is Spyrex. Why is that a fact pattern I am seeing?

[Firebringer]

The fact that you try to write off my valid concerns with your play today as OMGUS for one

@FB

you only started scumreading me after i raised concerns about you.
how is that anything besides omgus?

I scumread you, then you countered by saying i was scum.
whats your defintion of omgus? Just voting me after i vote you?

[Spiffeh]

do you feel using craptastic logic is more likely to come from scum Fire than town Fire? I mean I can't say that he's ever been a fountain of well developed analysis and cases in the time I've known all his accounts.

Had he shown concerns about me beforehand I could maybe buy that his recent push on me comes from town

It's really the suddenness along with the "throw shit and hope it sticks" analysis that make me think he's scum here

[Firebringer]

@Spif - Ok, I see where you are going. My only question to you is - do you feel using craptastic logic is more likely to come from scum Fire than town Fire? I mean I can't say that he's ever been a fountain of well developed analysis and cases in the time I've known all his accounts.

You honestly have to tell me where your ego comes from.
Cause i don't ever see amazing plays coming from you dude.
like ever, not to be just flat out insulting, i mean kind of? in a way, but i don't understand the level of arrogance you have.

i am honestly reading you as town for you being a bit of a dick.
Seems like your town tell.

[Firebringer]

The fact that you try to write off my valid concerns with your play today as OMGUS for one

@FB

you only started scumreading me after i raised concerns about you.
how is that anything besides omgus?

I scumread you, then you countered by saying i was scum.
whats your defintion of omgus? Just voting me after i vote you?

Spiffeh answer this pls

[Firebringer]

You honestly have to tell me where your ego comes from.
Cause i don't ever see amazing plays coming from you dude.
like ever, not to be just flat out insulting, i mean kind of? in a way, but i don't understand the level of arrogance you have.

i am honestly reading you as town for you being a bit of a dick.
Seems like your town tell.

i already feel bad about posting this.
Sorry to Magna.

We both obviously don't have high opinions of other, ill try to stop being a dick.

[Spiffeh]

you only started scumreading me after i raised concerns about you.
how is that anything besides omgus?

I scumread you, then you countered by saying i was scum.
whats your defintion of omgus? Just voting me after i vote you?

Yeah pretty much

During the night phase, after reading the Day that I was absent for I actually put you in my null pile because I really had no reason to town read you beyond your tone (both MoI and Andrius can attest to this as I posted a reads list in the neighborhood before Day started). Your "concerns" about me are still pretty unfounded and the confidence you displayed in your read didn't match the "evidence" you presented, so that was basically the straw that broke the camel's back.

I guess it does have a little to do with you going after me because I'm an egocentric player and find it easier to get reads off of people from their read on me as opposed to others.

[Firebringer]

i don't know spiffeh.
i am honestly split on u.
ur reaction to my votes on you being that i wanted to vote you so that i could stop you from commuting seem so self ego smug that i thought it couldn't come from scum.

on other hand your case on me being scum seems self serving, i guess you could say mine was too.

I don't know.
50/50.

I should iso you or something.
Why did you originally townread me?

[Spiffeh]

Tone

[MagnaofIllusion]

VOTE: Fire

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Fire

This guy is town.

[MagnaofIllusion]

(both MoI and Andrius can attest to this as I posted a reads list in the neighborhood before Day started).

This is absolutely true.

[Firebringer]

magna, lets shoot the birds.
hows life going for u buddy?

[Firebringer]

Tone

i guess i could see that?
I try to keep tone neutral...but like i haven't been good at it really lately.
I was good at it in like one game.