DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Cephrir]

I figured they ran their kill into me N2 and wouldn't be eager to do it again. Sue me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cephrir, please request an avoidance of nuclear death if you are town.

What would that help? I'd rather have more time to post anything I think might be useful.

UT is nuking Mastin currently. If you flip town, we'll 100% put that nuke through.

Otherwise, if you don't shoot yourself in the head, I'm pushing for UT to recall his nuke.

[Nahdia]

Cheet? Seriously?

Cheet!?

Why in God's name would scum aim for a fucking missile silo at this point in the game. My god. Ceph I like you but if you're town that was a serious miscalculation.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I figured they ran their kill into me N2 and wouldn't be eager to do it again. Sue me.

What?

you can self target?

[Cephrir]

I like the part where you admit your nuke wasn't justified.

I wish I'd managed to die. I thought my request that Grey and MOI not claim was potentially too obvious, but I guess not.

[Cephrir]

I figured they ran their kill into me N2 and wouldn't be eager to do it again. Sue me.

What?

you can self target?

into me, as in, into my protection on GIF.

[mastina]

I would like to point out: if Cephrir flips town, it is evidence that scum didn't *know* who the doctor was, else Ceph would be dead.
So that would be a sign that a MAXIMUM of one in GreyICE/MoI would be scum.

That's only upon a Ceph townflip though. Disregard this if he flips scum, since then you look at LLD with a secondary focus on MoI.

[Nahdia]

I like the part where you admit your nuke wasn't justified.

I wish I'd managed to die. I thought my request that Grey and MOI not claim was potentially too obvious, but I guess not.

It was obvious for me at least, which is why I started trying to shout it louder than you

[Cephrir]

Cheet? Seriously?

Cheet!?

Why in God's name would scum aim for a fucking missile silo at this point in the game. My god. Ceph I like you but if you're town that was a serious miscalculation.

For being obvtown :/ I guess that's where I went wrong, I don't think about mechanical stuff.

What other role was so great that they'd be afraid of it? Missile Silo seems better than everything except cop and doc at this point does it not?

[Cephrir]

I would like to point out: if Cephrir flips at all, mastin is trash of the highest order.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cephrir if you are town you need to bullet.

[Nahdia]

I mean, I guess. I felt at this point though it was either apparent scum needed to take a shot in the dark aiming for the battleship in the unclaimeds, or they needed to throw a Hail Mary and shoot for GiF. Killing Cheet doesn't solve the problem of GiF mechanically solving the game for them.

[Nahdia]

Let's wait on SpyreX to hear who he targeted last night.

[Untrod Tripod]

Cephrir, please request an avoidance of nuclear death if you are town.

What would that help? I'd rather have more time to post anything I think might be useful.

UT is nuking Mastin currently. If you flip town, we'll 100% put that nuke through.

Otherwise, if you don't shoot yourself in the head, I'm pushing for UT to recall his nuke.

but

But

But

Martina nuke :-/

[mastina]

Actually fuck that.

I figured they ran their kill into me N2 and wouldn't be eager to do it again. Sue me.

What? you can self target?

into me, as in, into my protection on GIF.

The bolded is pretty egregious in particular. LLD is probably scum regardless of Cephrir's flip.

I actually don't know what Cephrir's alignment here is. I think that he needs to die regardless of town or scum, though, and not even on policy: for the information his flip gives. There's a ton of info to be gleaned from his townflip, and a ton of info to be gleaned from his scumflip, so I think no matter what, my nuke there isn't getting recalled.

Not unless someone can present a pretty convincing argument as to why we need our doctor alive regardless of his alignment.

[Cephrir]

I actually don't know what Cephrir's alignment here is

literally fuck off.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Let's wait on SpyreX to hear who he targeted last night.

NO

SPYREX DO NOT CLAIM THIS

[Nahdia]

GROAN.

WHY NOT.

[Nahdia]

SURE, FINE, LET'S JUST WAIT 48 HOURS AND SEE THEN -_-.

[mastina]

I actually don't know what Cephrir's alignment here is

literally fuck off.

I mean, you can go ahead and blacklist me if you'd like for stating the obvious. I'm not scum and not a fucking psychic so no fucking duh. I don't know what your alignment is. There's mixed signals in play right now, some suggesting one way, other stuff like this suggesting the other.

The point there though was that you hold a key point of information. Your death reveals that information. If you flip scum, then we gained a lot of information from my nuke. If you flip town, we still gain a lot of information from my nuke. Things like indicators about LLD. Things like potential alignment indicators on MoI and GreyICE. Information about the scum's situation.

If you were town and stopped the scum's nightkill, then that means the scum tried again.
If you were town and didn't stop the scum's nightkill, then that means the scum tried for the first time not knowing you had been there before.

In the latter, LLD is scum.
In the former, it means scum were trying to make a suboptimal play and got lucky.

There's a whole bunch of this information spinning around in my head that I'm having trouble handling and processing it. You're the flip which gives THE most amount of info in the game, period.

So yes.
I'm nuking you.
It was the optimal play.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

SURE, FINE, LET'S JUST WAIT 48 HOURS AND SEE THEN -_-.

OR, HEY

WE CAN MAKE THE BEST OF A BUNCH OF SHITTY RUSHED NUKES.

AND CEPHRIR CAN PROVE THAT HE'S TOWN BEFORE UT'S NUKE PASSES THE RECALL PHASE.

[mastina]

Though.
VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta.

I think, if I'm going to die.
I want to die voting her.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Though.
VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta.

I think, if I'm going to die.
I want to die voting her.

Do you ever tire of being a fucking moron?

Clearly not.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Just from logic of knowing the people who are unclaimed, I'm pretty sure Keith is Failsafe and MoI is Air Base.

I even teased MoI about it in Defcon 5. Or pregame. One of them.

Which for me, given I know I'm not scum, makes me wonder who might kill MoI.

[SpyreX]

It is too late and there's too much insanity for the moment.

I can't get one of you guys to look at wagons for me but we go all hog wild out of the gate. For shame