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Post Post #7650 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:37 pm

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Thanks for proving to everybody why I'm actively refusing to fall into the trap of ignoring my gut to think through concrete information.
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Post Post #7651 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:39 pm

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In post 6272, Ankamius wrote:I'll believe there's a bus driver when I see it.

I'm unimpressed with all the innocent results going around. I'm almost certain one is a lie.

Narna is very likely scum.
Nahdia is very likely scum.
Almost50 is very likely scum.
Maxous is likely scum.
Massive is likely scum.
Giovanni is likely scum.
Not Chara is likely scum.

That leaves (Sircakez, Creature, PeregrineV, Firebinger, BigYoshiFan, Andrius) as my townlist for right now.
Here is another one where you do it. This was before I replaced in. You seriously can't have only started this now?
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Post Post #7652 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:41 pm

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You are using concrete information to form your reads.

Here is another Maxous claimed scum/3P.

So that is not anything manipulatable. He said it. Nothing can fuck with it.
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Post Post #7653 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:43 pm

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How exactly does that prove anything? I gave my reads and basically stated that I don't care about innocents.

I even went into why innocents aren't actual innocents and shouldn't be trusted as such at some point.
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Post Post #7654 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:44 pm

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Literally every read I gave in 6272 was based on shit like how they reacted to wagons, wagon analysis, reads, etc.

Nothing about that was because of roles. You're making shit up because I happened to talk about innocent results in that same post.
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Post Post #7655 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:47 pm

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I am not. You said you didn't believe the innocents. That is acting on concrete information. That is choosing to ignore it. Disregarding something is an active choice. An action.

You are therefore acting on it. Once information exists it is in our subconscious and in our minds. That is part of the reason I knew Maxous is an uphill battle and still is.
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Post Post #7656 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:47 pm

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The difference is that with a person who says they are guilty in a non RVS non joke manner you lynch them.
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Post Post #7657 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:51 pm

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Here's like the 80th time you straight up don't read my posts.
In post 7648, Ankamius wrote:'Feelings' are how I scumhunt.
When I ignore my gut to go with concrete information
, it consistently hurts town, so I'm actively refusing to think along those lines.
In post 7650, Ankamius wrote:Thanks for proving to everybody why I'm actively refusing to fall into the trap of
ignoring my gut to think through concrete information.
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Post Post #7658 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:56 pm

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Again. Psychology says that once you take in information you have altered it and yourself. It is the reason for the controls. That is my point. You made an active willing choice to disregard information. Ergo acting on it.

Vote Maxous.
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Post Post #7659 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:57 pm

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Drat Titus making me take intro psych in college. Never thought I would ever use it in mafia.
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Post Post #7660 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:00 pm

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In post 7654, Ankamius wrote:Literally every read I gave in 6272 was based on shit like how they reacted to wagons, wagon analysis, reads, etc.

Nothing about that was because of roles. You're making shit up because I happened to talk about innocent results in that same post.
In post 7654, Ankamius wrote:Literally every read I gave in 6272 was based on shit like how they reacted to wagons, wagon analysis, reads, etc.

Nothing about that was because of roles. You're making shit up because I happened to talk about innocent results in that same post.
In post 7654, Ankamius wrote:Literally every read I gave in 6272 was based on shit like how they reacted to wagons, wagon analysis, reads, etc.

Nothing about that was because of roles. You're making shit up because I happened to talk about innocent results in that same post.
In post 7654, Ankamius wrote:Literally every read I gave in 6272 was based on shit like how they reacted to wagons, wagon analysis, reads, etc.

Nothing about that was because of roles. You're making shit up because I happened to talk about innocent results in that same post.
In post 7654, Ankamius wrote:Literally every read I gave in 6272 was based on shit like how they reacted to wagons, wagon analysis, reads, etc.

Nothing about that was because of roles. You're making shit up because I happened to talk about innocent results in that same post.
In post 7654, Ankamius wrote:Literally every read I gave in 6272 was based on shit like how they reacted to wagons, wagon analysis, reads, etc.

Nothing about that was because of roles. You're making shit up because I happened to talk about innocent results in that same post.
In post 7654, Ankamius wrote:Literally every read I gave in 6272 was based on shit like how they reacted to wagons, wagon analysis, reads, etc.

Nothing about that was because of roles. You're making shit up because I happened to talk about innocent results in that same post.
Any more questions?
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Post Post #7661 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:02 pm

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Going to bed since apparently you don't even consider science any more or any rudimentary logic anything further is spam.
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Post Post #7662 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:06 pm

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Ankamius is not going to stop being useless so let's just force the lynch on Maxous through and be done with it

Don't give him the hammer he'll probably shoot based on his fuzzy feelings
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Post Post #7663 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:08 pm

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I gotta sleep Accountant. Will do my best and check in the AM.
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Post Post #7664 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:32 am

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In post 7661, MathBlade wrote:Going to bed since apparently you don't even consider science any more or any rudimentary logic anything further is spam.
Start actually reading my posts and maybe I'll start taking your arguments seriously.
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Post Post #7665 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:11 am

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Four more hours til we can lynch Maxous.

We got this.
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Post Post #7666 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:57 am

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In post 7665, MathBlade wrote:Four more hours til we can lynch Maxous.

We got this.
We have 11 days left to deadline.....?
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Post Post #7667 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:58 am

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In post 7666, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 7665, MathBlade wrote:Four more hours til we can lynch Maxous.

We got this.
We have 11 days left to deadline.....?
The only reason to wait at this point is for a Pine prod because Maxous claimed not Town.
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Post Post #7668 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:10 am

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@MathBlade don't go from one 'war' to another

@Ank your going to need a little bit more to have a slight chance of hammer.

@Not chara: I meant delay it for a little bit. Not stop it completely as what seemingly happened
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Post Post #7669 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:18 am

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Creeps: what's the issue with Mathblade now? sure, the argument with Almost earlier was a bit of a nonsensical back-and-forth, but arguments and pressing are mafia.
In post 7547, BigYoshiFan wrote:But suddenly coming forth with a read you never mentioned isn't inconsistent, it's just sketchy.
I question it because it looks opportunistic. (Yes, you can make the same argument there, go ahead)
now, see. that sentence in brackets just looks like it's there so you aren't called a hypocrite. you're apparently thinking your reads haven't been mentioned before, and thus need explanation,
and
according to your last response to Mathblade, have not given enough reasons for your reads. acknowledging either of those but not rectifying them doesn't make the behaviour a sudden non-issue.
'i'm calling you out for this, feel free to calm me out on the same' isn't scumhunting.

did you actually check my ISO for whether my read on you was out of nowhere or not? how many times are you going to call Mathblade LAMIST and arrogant, as if that's an actual response to a scumread on you? you're going for the player's behaviour as if that's enough to say the scumread is bad. you've also yet to say anything in response to the
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Post Post #7670 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:20 am

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Apparently math is scum for trying to convince people to lynch maxous using actual information as opposed to gut feels.
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Post Post #7671 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:21 am

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speaking of, Peregrine: you haven't talked about why i'm scum since the pepto/Gaster translations discussion. we have some hours left, let's chat.

pedit: that reminds me of a question. Ankamius, have you played with Mathblade before?
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Post Post #7672 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:42 am

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In post 7671, Not Chara wrote:speaking of, Peregrine: you haven't talked about why i'm scum since the pepto/Gaster translations discussion. we have some hours left, let's chat.

pedit: that reminds me of a question. Ankamius, have you played with Mathblade before?
It started way back when I kind of expected you to be the flavor master, and to use your flavor skills to try to solve the game. However, a few times when flavor questions came up and we (or at least I) was wondering what it meant (or even could or might mean), you gave nothing.

So I waited, and when speculation came up, you were quiet. That soured me on you from prob-town to prob-scum.

In the last 5000 posts or so, you haven't done anything to change that opinion.
And, except for some sort sprints voting Creature/Math and Giovanni, according to VCs you've always voted to lynch town.

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Post Post #7673 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:43 am

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No, I have never played with Mathblade before. He also has never played with me.
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Post Post #7674 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:43 am

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In post 7670, Accountant wrote:Apparently math is scum for trying to convince people to lynch maxous using actual information as opposed to gut feels.
LOL

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