The Thing Mafia - Game over!

[Spiffeh]

In case it wasn't obvious I want the lynch order to be Andrius -> Firebringer -> SpyreX/UT -> UT/SpyreX

If the game isn't over by then, hopefully I'm dead

[Firebringer]

LOOK PEOPLE.
I AM WILLING TO SELL MY VOTE TOMORROW IF YOU HELP ME LYNCH SPYREX
ONE VOTE FOR ONE PERSON.

WHO WILL JOIN ME

[Andrius]

Why do I want to lynch a scumread now?
What is this a sitcom?
We lynch the scum now we don't save them for the season finale

no, i am saying mechanically its the wrong lynch.
Why do you want to go with a mechanical bad lynch over another possible scum?

Because I'm more certain of this?
I'm trying something here instead of complaining people aren't dead yet

Wraith can you make a night action plan please

Actually Andrius if you want you can do it too before you're lynched

Why would you want me to make a plan if you think I'm scum?
Magna fired me
If you want to rehire me
I'll be at the bar

[Andrius]

But I secretly want you to take me back obviously

[MariaR]

wtf did I just read

[Andrius]

I like abusive relationships?

THIS IS NOW A SOAP

[SpyreX]

I'm down for it

Pedit the xcom.part not this nonsense business.

See andy this is what i mean

[Spiffeh]

Because I'm more certain of this?
I'm trying something here instead of complaining people aren't dead yet

You have given literally no evidence for you to be so certain about EP

I want to hear what IN their 93 posts (which means literally jack shit in terms of alignment for EP) makes you think they're scum

[Firebringer]

i will lynch andrius tomorrow spiffeh. Vote spyrex today.

Also [insert stuff about xcom here]

[Firebringer]

Because I'm more certain of this?
I'm trying something here instead of complaining people aren't dead yet

I don't see why you are more certain of it. Like at all.

[Andrius]

I posted words on him earlier but I'm not about to iso myself on a mobile for quotes

[Firebringer]

Spoiler: Andrius Posts

If you think I'm encouraging stagnation in the game you need to read me over again.

no. sorry. wasn't clear.
not stagnating the game.
you're pushing lines of thought that have since expired in validity is what i meant

I disagree.
Plan breakage should ALWAYS be evaluated and talked about.
And no, I haven't wanted all plan breakers dead.
Titushydra broke the plan N1 and we had a tiff D2 and got over it together.

That was one of the bright lights in this game.

I've been townreading UT for almost the entire game.
Spiffeh hasn't, and I said that UT could use some pressure today inPT last night.
He has had some pressure.
He is the largest proponent of his own lynch.

Me townreading UT shouldn't be a surprise; Spy merely knows him better than I so yeah, that helps my read but doesn't make it. I've been townreading him all game, against DT, against Titus, against Spiffeh.

On the spectrum of "Reevaluating reads" to "Pushing threats to survival" I'd argue that Andrius's hunting mechanism today falls more towards the latter.

Uh.
What do you call me asking people about their reads of you?
Before this day even started and the massive rehaul began, I was asking Maria about you in PT. You were there for that. You saw it and commented.

Vote: ErrantParabola

Let's try this on for size since we're supposed to be looking for under-the-radar scumbags and since apparently we don't care about lynching noncompliants anymore.

@EP. Generally I take 80% shots as good, but I've been trying a lot of 45% recently as well.

but your reads right now are 1SVT is scum, but by scum you really mean "plan breaker"

Aren't they the same thing? All flipped scum are plan breakers. Not all plan breakers are scum?

All squares are rectangles, etc.
and also there's scum in people pushing SpyreX but you don't pinpoint to anything?

I was planning on doing it later when I said that.

but the fact that you're putting me on blast as part of your shade crusade for not having scumreads is just plain bollocks.

I've been asking what you've actually done to people who townread you. This isn't some crusade I'm trying to understand your slot without having to re-read any parts of this game.

some explanations.

MOI- town. I get the strong impression that Magna conflates certain aspects of day play with scum and applies these things consistently. He's a critical and thorough player and the things he looks for really seem genuine. That type of play looks very town to me, but its not something that is necessarily exclusive to town. that being said, this impression added on to early interactions make it more town to me.

Maria- town I agree with wraith-- maria's actions and interactions point to town. Some tonal differences compared to scum Maria in a recent mini normal is definitely a weak point but one that i'm taking into account. My impression of wraith's case is that it's solid analysis that i highly doubt comes from scum, but i dont think that it merits a strong town read here. wraith, I do want to note that your point about scum motivated bad play doesnt seem like a point you would reasonably be making with any confidence, because of the dreal flip as you pointed out.

Spiffeh- town, for reasons i've detailed on multiple occasions i think

In terms of changes, FA worries me but I'll hold on to my early read.
I've been doubting wraith for a while, but looking at wraith's analysis on his strong townreads eased that by quite a bit, to the point where i'd consider wraith on spiffeh-level
skybird is really frustrating to me but i'm trusting the combined thoughts of wraith and tammy on this.

sso basically andrius argued against tammy protection and now tammy's dead? its not good evidence as it stands, but from what i see, andrius protected wraith because "he would regret it if he didn't" which doesn't point to any hard reason. is there something that sepcifically caused you to protect wraith? or was it just a gut thing? whichever one it is, why was whatever spiffeh said unable to convince you? or did spiffeh not give any specific reason?

Townread.
Townread.
Townread.
FA worries you.
Doubting wraith.
Andy is arguing with Spiffeh which isn't true.

Do you have scumreads?
Or is WORRY DOUBT AND ARGUING your scumread words?

I mean, like, thanks for catching up and doing things.
But scumreads please.

It could be argued that you just listed three of the most universally-read-as-town players and are just throwing descriptive words around instead of scumreads.

This is almost everything Andrius has said about EP in the thread. None of this seems like a substantial read, but he has suspicion. Although much of suspicion is of them not doing nothing, which has been covered to death >.>

[MariaR]

Fire is trying...I'm scared

[Firebringer]

ohh sod off with that.
i always try.
u smell

[Skybird]

Maria, what's your take on the remaining scum?

Spiffeh, I will help you on Andrius.

VOTE: Andrius

[MariaR]

Firebringer
Untrod Tripod
Errantparabola
Andy
Spy
Pere

[MariaR]

I'm trying to think of what teams make sense with some of these players in mind

as I don't see spy/fire as a team
I don't see andy/EP as a team

[Skybird]

What about the team I proposed? Andy/Spy/UT?

[MariaR]

Do you really think 2 of the last 3 scum would be going like "omg just lynch me :/"
I think ut is a fine lynch he either is scum (great) or we get confrim town (gr8)

[Skybird]

Sure, because of the way you are thinking right now.

It may come down to UT being the best option for today if we all can't agree elsewhere.

[Wraith]

I was going to commit my vote just now but seeing Skybird go for Andrius I'm going to wait some more to see how it plays out.

[Andrius]

I will rally this game even at the cost of my own life.

Wraith, what exactly are you waiting to see? A bigger wagon on me?
To see who supports my lynch?
See if SpyreX will get lynched instead?
Why are you waiting here when what we need is action?

Spiffeh, seriously. Why do you want me forming a plan if you think I'm scum?
How about all those "loopholes" I supposedly wrote into the plan?
Like I said, I'm willing to do it but I got fired so why do you want me back?


Maria, how is Fire trying suspicious?

[MariaR]

Joke post fam

[Andrius]

Humans' Reference

Welcome to the Humans' Reference. (Format shamelessly stolen from hitogoroshi.) Because there are actions that would benefit Things if they could get away with them,

ignorance of the Humans' Reference is no excuse

. Please read thoroughly.

Spoiler: Official Notes

Note the First: Ensure drealmerz7's compliance with night actions.

Note the Second: SpyreX eats a vendors faaace

Note the Third: Vig all the hydras

Note the Fourth: Tammy selects a room for the 'hood before room phase is over.

Note the Fifth: Coordinate vig room before room phase.

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Spoiler: NAR

NAR list

Palmer's vengekill
MacReady's roleblock (resolves during Room Phase, guaranteed to go through)
Halverson's vote roleblocks (votes are placed at day, roleblocks guaranteed to go through if in same room)
Adam's commuting
Colin's triple roleblock
Lars's bus driving
Norris's Saboteur
Carter's jailkeep
Copper's protection
Childs's vest transfer
Nightkills (scum, Garry, Peder)
Nauls's food vending
Fuchs's tracking/Edvard's watching

Miscellaneous: Blair's modposting, Windows's pregame neighborizations, Clark's treestumping, Benning's Universal Backup, Kate's room block, Jameson's room lockdown, Lars's room redirecting

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Spoiler: Night Five Action Guide

Room Capacity is 1/3 of the living players, rounded up as per mod. N5 will be 4 (12-1 for lynch = 11), after the lynch.

Laboratory

- [MoI, MariaR, Errant, Spiffeh]

Rec Room

- EMPTY

Kitchen

- EMPTY

Kennels

- [FA, SpyreX, PeregrineV, 1SVT]

Living Quarters

- EMPTY

Radio Room

- [UT, Skybird, Wraith, Andrius]

Infirmary

- EMPTY

Actions

1a. FA Vote-RBs SpyreX and ???
1b. PeregrineV Room Blocks the Living Quarters
2. Spiffeh Commute Decision
3. SpyreX Roleblocks Skybird, ???, ???
4. MoI Sabotages ???
5. Andrius Jailkeeps ???
6. MariaR Protects EP
7. Scum Nightkill
8. Skybird Vends to SpyreX
9. Errant Watches Laboratory

COMMENTARY:
-Assuming Spy isn't lynched, FA blocking Spy makes sense since FA is scumreading Spy. He can add/sub Spy for myself if I'm not lynched today.
-I'm leaving the Lab since pretty much everyone there wants me dead and it should be freed up for Spiffeh, who, regardless of whether I live past today or not, can get DayTalk with Magna.
-Merged the Kitchen and Radio Room since capacity is large enough and no one should be alone.
I am personally against protecting EP since he's scum but I leave it here since no one agrees with me.

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Spoiler: N1

Eliminated N1 Shooter Suspects

GenX/Transcend (Flipped Town)
Creature (Flipped Town)
DT/Titus (Flipped Town)
Wraith (Rec Room Lockdown)
McMenno (Rec Room Lockdown and Flipped Town)
Skybird (SpyreX Roleblock)
FA (GenX Quarantine)

N1 Shooter Suspects

Tammy (ONLY if scum used their Strongman shot or Andrius is lying - JK'd by Andrius)
Goatmeal (ONLY if MoI is lying - Sabotaged + Watched by MoI)
Andrius
MoI
Spiffeh
Errant
MariaR
UT
1SVT
drealmerz
SpyreX
PeregrineV

Spoiler: N2

Eliminated N2 Shooter Suspects

GenX (Kennels Lockdown and Flipped Town)
UT (Kennels Lockdown)
SpyreX (Kennels Lockdown)
Spiffeh (Kennels Lockdown)
Skybird (Kennels Lockdown and SpyreX Roleblock)
MoI (GenX Quarantine)
Creature (Flipped Town and FA Roleblock)
McMenno (Flipped Town)
Titus (Flipped Town)

N2 Shooter Suspects

drealmerz (ONLY if scum used their Strongman shot - Roleblocked by FA)
Tammy (ONLY if Andrius is lying - JK'd by Andrius)
MariaR
PeregrineV (dodged Kennels Lockdown)
FA (was supposed to be Sabotaged by MoI but MoI was Quarantined by GenX)
Errant
Wraith
Andrius
1SVT

Spoiler: N3

Eliminated N3 Shooter Suspects

Titus (Flipped Town)

N3 Shooter Suspects

Wraith (ONLY if scum used their Strongman shot - JK'd by Andrius)
FA (ONLY if scum used their Strongman shot - Roleblocked by FA)
drealmerz (ONLY if MoI is lying - Sabotaged by MoI)
MoI
MariaR
Andrius
Errant
SpyreX
PeregrineV
UT
Tammy
Spiffeh
Skybird (was supposed to be Roleblocked by SpyreX but sent in the wrong target choice)
1SVT (broke ranks, was likely alone in a room)

My God, what was happening to him?

Spoiler:

Scum have confirmed daychat.
As well, scum have 4 1-shot abilities that can be used factionally, but only under specific circumstances.

A 1-shot Strongman that may only be used on someone in the same room as the scum performing the kill that night
A 1-shot Ninja that may only be used on someone in the same room as the scum performing the kill that night
A 1-shot Roleblock that may only be used on someone in the same room as the scum performing the roleblock that night
A 1-shot Commute that may only be used if the scum using it is alone in a room

[Andrius]

bump