Micro 668 - Birds of Paradise - Game Over

[BNL]

Vote Count 1.4

Brown Sicklebill (Epimachus meyeri)
In case you're wondering, this is a male Brown Sicklebill, and only the females of the species are brown. I think you're bored of seeing female birds so I'll stop posting them.

nn30 (2) - Cracker, Mewtaph,
Mewtaph (1) - mykonian,
TTTT (1) - drealmerz7
Bulbazoor (1) - ssbm_Kyouko
drealmerz7 (1) - Transcend
Cracker (1) - TTTT

Not voting (2) - Bulbazoor, nn30

The deadline is 20 December 11pm UTC-4, or in (expired on 2016-12-20 23:00:00).

Mod notes:
Cracker is V/LA until 12 December
TTTT is V/LA until 12 December

[Mewtaph]

@ssbm - I think I get where you're coming from with Transcend if you have game experience with him (need links)
But I don't think there is much of a correlation if at all with Bulb switching off of nn30 onto you to unvote, they seem like separate things to me.

@nn30 - I hear you.
UNVOTE:
Answer 128 and do it well and you might be my first lock town read.

What do people think of myk? His early game reeks of fake content (ex. 13) and when I question him about this in 19 he doesn't answer.
Says 60 but never follows up on it again.
Doesn't want to make townreads. If you look at his ISO they are all focused some way or another around Transcend and myself. This is strange, and seems like a way to hedge on sharing reads that he might trip himself up on later.
A lot of posts that are really just there to take up space and feign activity, no assertiveness when it comes to laying down reads on me and Transcend.
I don't like it.
VOTE: mykonian

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I mean looking back he is talking about you two a lot but it looks like he's got a read or something because he talks about being happy with where his vote is. Like fair assertion on his TRing habits, but he seems to be firmly voting you. My Transcend experience is mostly ongoing but this is what's completed:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69080
It's also a game where a town Myko was talking about "blank posts" and it wouldn't surprise me if it's just his way of playing rvs

[BNL]

Please do not discuss ongoing games

[Mewtaph]

@ssbm

Spoiler:

Note: This is the non-strapped down version of the non-spoilered, so you can easily go read that instead.

Yeah, I get that. But that's part of the issue I have with him. If he's voting me for this long and made comments like that, it indicates that his read on me is strong.
I guess I'm like that slot to him that keeps on giving scum tells over and over again. (62, 71, 93) I can see this mindset come easily from both alignments but the problem was when I really looked at the contents of his ISO. It has me doing loops of paranoia.

It's like his scumhunting efforts are split between two people and it's really awkward because he seems to be the only player publicly having these thoughts, and he's moving at a slow pace on explaining them. (Or maybe I'm completely wrong here and he's about to make his breakthrough post) It makes me wonder if he ever had a firm read on either of us in the first place than what he's letting us in on, he's kind of just letting the events pass him by and he doesn't really care to notice past a comment.

Unless he's playing with something similar to

he's being a scumbag, that's all. Don't make a wagon on him yet, then we can flash wagon him right before the deadline

in mind, in terms of planning to explain some/most of his reads later on in the day, his play doesn't make much sense. From his ISO, surely he's formed some sort of read/opinion on me and Transcend by now: we're the only people that he's talked about. It just doesn't really add up to me.

Essentially,

• Myk's voting me and has made it fairly obvious that his vote is firmly on me for the forseeable future.
  
• Myk's ISO is mainly focused around Transcend + me in terms of scum hunting. What did he find so intriguing about the two slots that he's forgoing making a stance on most of the other slots?
  
• He won't share his explanation of his reads, and what makes this especially odd is if you combine this fact with the focus that seems to drive ISO. He's clearly formed some sort of opinion, is he simply not confident enough to share them?
  
• Did I completely miss the entire point of his playstyle? I looked at that completed game link and I think it has some relevance here for his first reason for his serious vote, but it looks like the reasons run deeper than that.

I just need these things addressed in some way before the day ends. If he wants to take more of a "I'll just show you later today instead" approach, I can definitely respect that, I still have little to no grasp on how he plays.

[nn30]

He explained, or at least made it very easy to infer, why he's voting the way he is. You may not like the reasons but they are there @Mew.

I'll get to your questions shortly

[nn30]

@nn30: Do you have any major train of thoughts about d7's post 56 on me and TTTT specifically? Did anything strike you as odd in myk + Transcend's first interaction on pg 2?

Re: Drealmer - The substance feels like it's from a town perspective. It's appropriately cautious IMO.

Re: TTTT - I do have thoughts on TTTT however I'm waiting for him to get back before I share them.

Re: Myk + Transcend - nothing about Myk was weird, but Transcend pinged me scummy. I did a meta dive and Transcend's P2 is consistent with his scum game. Need more before I head this way though since the trolling makes the slot hard to read.

[BNL]

Cracker has been poked (unofficially prodded due to V/LA)

Guys, please don't make me mass prod.

[nn30]

Yo, TTTT, where you at?

[Bulbazoor]

I have not been paying attention to the game. I will give my thoughts later.

[mykonian]

it's a real shame the game slowed down so much over the weekend. I'd have loved to see a wagon of sorts now.

[mykonian]

might actually be somehting to that. hmm. Could be fun to have a look at.

[TTTT]

Sorry.
It's been a busy weekend.
I'll read and catch-up sometime this evening

[Transcend]

PRODGE

[TTTT]

@TTTT - What do you think of 134?

too many words and I don't know who he's talking to.

[TTTT]

I want to lynch here:
VOTE: drealm
ssbm
cracker

not sure about myk

the rest of you are town for now

[Transcend]

I want to lynch here:
VOTE: drealm
ssbm
cracker

not sure about myk

the rest of you are town for now

Fuck yeah dude.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Yeah it's been dead in here. What were you waiting on TTTT to say about, nn30?

Town reads coming out of TTTT seem generous (I can see nn30 and maybe Mewtaph), and I don't see d7 the way TTTT and Transcend seem to. Can either of you explain what seems scummy about him because he just looks a bit paranoid to me.

Last vote, and to a certain excusable extent, first vote by TTTT look OMGUS. Why d7 of the 3 of us you listed?

@mod Also when will cracker be replaced if she doesn't post?

VOTE: TTTT

[TTTT]

Last vote, and to a certain excusable extent, first vote by TTTT look OMGUS. Why d7 of the 3 of us you listed?

63

[TTTT]

Town reads coming out of TTTT seem generous

"town for now" =/= TR

but even if it did, do you think generous TRs are more likely from scum than town?

[TTTT]

the only TR I'm hanging my hat on is Mew

[mykonian]

I'm bored with transcend now, been long enough for him to get his shit together. Stopped being townlike a while ago.

vote transcend

[mykonian]

the only TR I'm hanging my hat on is Mew

you seriously fall for his waffling and whining so far?

[nn30]

@SSBM - He pinged me weird. Hasn't been putting game solving thought into the game. I asked him about something because I wanted to gauge his response. His response to Dreamers post was lazy and doesn't attempt to discern alignment.

Needs rope.

VOTE: TTTT

[TTTT]

i wish people would stop saying "ping"
Not game solving?
I posted a scum list didn't I?
Jeesh... I'm on a 28k dial-up modem and pay by the megabyte
Sry for being concise