Newbie 1758 - Symmetry (Game Over)

[ThinkBig]

Going through a few ISOs, my thoughts so far is that human made a HUGE mistake by self hammering. The only time you should self hammer is if you're scum that was copped as guilty and want to prevent town from coordinating their night actions.

Huntress is confirmed town by cop. Current FOS is on hellfire and howard. I just want to finish ISO'ing them before voting.

[Hellfire Missile]

Sorry, that was supposed to be @Huntress.

For the record, I have played with Josh a few times. I've noticed in my games with him he tends to flip out and tends to be incoherent regardless of his alignment.

I don't like meta for a couple of reasons

one. It can change

two IM LAZY AS SHIT

three.

fin

[Hellfire Missile]

Current FOS is on hellfire

Just sayin you're gonna find nothing on me

plus i'm anti town

kek.

i suck yes i know

I try

I think i'm better at reading AtE's

[Hellfire Missile]

why won't anybody say anything .-.

[Sobolev Space]

Sorry for the inactivity all. Was busy yesterday and went skiing today so I only just got internet access.

Welcome ThinkBig!

For the record, I have played with Josh a few times. I've noticed in my games with him he tends to flip out and tends to be incoherent regardless of his alignment.

If its allowed would you mind linking any games? I'm not especially worried but lying about the meta of the player who's slot you're replacing into seems like an easy (and a little lazy) scum strategy to manipulate town.

Current FOS is on hellfire and howard. I just want to finish ISO'ing them before voting.

When you have time can you explain the read on Howard? I've also thought some of Howard's general activity could be suspicious but couldn't find anything overtly scummy in his posts. Everyone else seemed to have a strong town read on him (d2 and also to an extent today) so I'm curious as to what you think.

@HM: what is your opinion on Joshz v. Howard? TvT or TvS?

Joshz has massive AtEs. He got really pissed off after Howard tunneled him, and even before, back at the very start. He could definitely be pissed because Howard discovered something about him, but earlier, when i was reading him, i noticed that he had a lack of emotion when he was two votes away from being lynched (Day 1, Post 298)
It's just weird.

really weird.

First he gets pissed for being voted on for a shitty reason

then he doesn't even react at all (at least emotionally) for his two votes away from Lynch

Then he gets like, ANGRY, when Howard tunneled him

TvS i believe. Josh feels scummy.

Interesting. Between you, Howard, and Huntress yesterday I think I'm the only one with a town read on Joshz/ThinkBig. I felt like most of the stuff he posted was legitimate emotion. He just seemed like somebody who can get easily frustrated. Again, looking at his other games would help.

@Huntress: Is your read of Joshz/ThinkBig changed from yesterday?

@All: On day 3 how active are these games usually? This is my first but it seems a little dead. I figured it was just because we have fewer people now but idk.

[Huntress]

@Huntress: Is your read of Joshz/ThinkBig changed from yesterday?

Not changed from my final read of the Day when I said I didn't want to lynch Josh, but I'm in two minds about the slot. I think if anyone deliberately let Locust get an investigation night one to throw us off the scent then Josh is a candidate, but I also think that Jackel thought Josh might be the doctor and was trying to tell his partner, in which case it couldn't be Josh.

@All: On day 3 how active are these games usually? This is my first but it seems a little dead. I figured it was just because we have fewer people now but idk.

Activity depends on availability to some extent. Not everyone can be on several times a day, or if they can they don't always have something to say, so might wait till they do have something new before posting. Some games go really fast if they have a group of high posters.

[Sobolev Space]

I think if anyone deliberately let Locust get an investigation night one to throw us off the scent then Josh is a candidate ...

I think Howard is also a possibility here but agree it is most likely Josh/ThinkBig. As another question, unless HM is scum, why else do you think somebody would have let Locust get the investigation/live n1?

...but I also think that Jackel thought Josh might be the doctor and was trying to tell his partner, in which case it couldn't be Josh.

The way I read those last couple posts is that Jackel thought Joshz was doctor for some reason and thus claimed tracker so that he had a chance of nobody being able to disprove the setup and living another night (or for some other reason idk). But it is also possible Jackel made those last couple posts to throw us off the scent since it seems weird for scum to admit that another player is town as they're dying. Joshz did seem unusually focused on those last posts from Jackel which was a bit odd. Idk here.

[HowardRoark]

My reads are basically still 773. Plus my earlier Joshz concerns.

Jackel98's doc-Joshz post is tough. That's why I wanted Joshz to explain why he brought it up. It seems he asked for an explanation of a dead players post which would only lead to WIFOM. To me, that is scummy.

Trying to dissect night kills can be helpful but can also be tricky. The way that Joshz was talking about it I read as scummy.

Be careful with referencing other games. You can always find a player's topics and posts from their profile.

Related to activity, I will be out of town for a fundraiser this weekend. I should have a chance to post again a bit later tonight and will post tomorrow; after that it may be Sunday.

V/LA: 16-18 December 2016

[Hellfire Missile]

My reads are basically still 773. Plus my earlier Joshz concerns.

Jackel98's doc-Joshz post is tough. That's why I wanted Joshz to explain why he brought it up. It seems he asked for an explanation of a dead players post which would only lead to WIFOM. To me, that is scummy.

Trying to dissect night kills can be helpful but can also be tricky. The way that Joshz was talking about it I read as scummy.

Be careful with referencing other games. You can always find a player's topics and posts from their profile.

Related to activity, I will be out of town for a fundraiser this weekend. I should have a chance to post again a bit later tonight and will post tomorrow; after that it may be Sunday.

V/LA: 16-18 December 2016

You need to set v/la in your profile, and maybe PM the mod

learned that the hard way, got prodded back durin thanksgiving >.<

[ThinkBig]

Final exams are over! Will finish going through everything tonight.

[Sobolev Space]

Be careful with referencing other games. You can always find a player's topics and posts from their profile.

Fair enough. I thought ThinkBig might have been referring to an offsite game since Joshz mentioned he played offsite a fair amount and I was unsure about the rules for linking offsite games. He's only completed one game which is all we're allowed to talk about and in that game I don't see the AtEs and rants that ThinkBig was referring too so I might have to revise my reads. On the other hand a lot of Joshz's frustration seemed pretty genuine to me so we'll see. Ugh.

@ThinkBig: Any updates?

[ThinkBig]

@Sob - I just got home from work. Currently reading through and I'm on page 10.

[Xalxe]

Vote Count 3.2

If you’re happy, and you know it, then the chemtrails are finally working.

ThinkBig (1)

: Hellfire Missile

Not Voting

: Sobolev Space, Huntress, ThinkBig, HowardRoark

With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-12-26 15:48:15)

HowardRoark is V/LA until the 18th.

[Hellfire Missile]

If you’re happy, and you know it, then the chemtrails are finally working.

Never knew you were a conspiracy theorist Xalxe

[ThinkBig]

If you’re happy, and you know it, then the chemtrails are finally working.

In that case, I have a tinfoil hat to sell you.

(I'm on page 13. Fell asleep last night).

[ThinkBig]

Vote Count 1.10

The future is what you make of it! Just know that your supplies are limited.

Jackel98 (5): Loopdan, Human Sequencer, Locust, Joshz, Sobolev Space

Sobolev Space (1)

: Jackel98

Joshz (1)

: Hellfire Missile

Not Voting

: Huntress, HowardRoark

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-11-28 08:47:44)

Vote Count 2.5

We all lie dreamily upon damp earth, spotting clouds shaped like animals we have yet to invent.

Human Sequencer (4): Hellfire Missile, Sobolev Space, Huntress, Human Sequencer

Joshz (1)

: HowardRoark

Hellfire Missile (1)

: Joshz

Not Voting

: Locust

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-12-15 10:46:08)

Just a quick vote wagon analysis, Hellfire was not on the wagon when we lynched scum but was on the wagon when we lynched town. Hellfire is currently my biggest FOS.

[Hellfire Missile]

Vote Count 1.10

The future is what you make of it! Just know that your supplies are limited.

Jackel98 (5): Loopdan, Human Sequencer, Locust, Joshz, Sobolev Space

Sobolev Space (1)

: Jackel98

Joshz (1)

: Hellfire Missile

Not Voting

: Huntress, HowardRoark

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-11-28 08:47:44)

Vote Count 2.5

We all lie dreamily upon damp earth, spotting clouds shaped like animals we have yet to invent.

Human Sequencer (4): Hellfire Missile, Sobolev Space, Huntress, Human Sequencer

Joshz (1)

: HowardRoark

Hellfire Missile (1)

: Joshz

Not Voting

: Locust

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-12-15 10:46:08)

Just a quick vote wagon analysis, Hellfire was not on the wagon when we lynched scum but was on the wagon when we lynched town. Hellfire is currently my biggest FOS.

Hellfire doesn't look on the thread on weekends. He has things to do.

Hellfire almost never gets on from 5-9 PM (Sleep, dinner)

yes.

[Hellfire Missile]

Plus i would've unvoted if i'd saw that HS was going to get lynched.

[Hellfire Missile]

3rd or 1st person?

[Hellfire Missile]

ISO me. You'll see that usually I'm never on during 5(6 idk)-9. .-.

[ThinkBig]

Hellfire dude we are all in the same boat this is my first game of mafia on the forums you know just as much about everyone as I do. Read posts and just let us know if anything stands out to you don't get hung up on it just let it flow. I have no training in playing you just read what people say and look for dodgy stuff. By not doing that you appear to be scum as they don't like pointing fingers. The other option of course is you are scum in which case just say "I am scum" and we can lynch you and go home.

if i said i am scum and i wasn't

then would that be not fulfilling my win condition and there for i will get a ban or something?

i am "totally"

scum

town

Yeah, I read through your ISO hellfire. Even after you're called out for using encrypted texts, you continue using them anyway. And this?

VOTE: Hellfire

[Hellfire Missile]

How am i currently using encrypted text?

Plus, i didn't know. I've stopped. Unless magnifying text is encrypted text?

[Hellfire Missile]

Hellfire dude we are all in the same boat this is my first game of mafia on the forums you know just as much about everyone as I do. Read posts and just let us know if anything stands out to you don't get hung up on it just let it flow. I have no training in playing you just read what people say and look for dodgy stuff. By not doing that you appear to be scum as they don't like pointing fingers. The other option of course is you are scum in which case just say "I am scum" and we can lynch you and go home.

if i said i am scum and i wasn't

then would that be not fulfilling my win condition and there for i will get a ban or something?

i am "totally"

scum

town

And this?
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Does this stick you the wrong way

[HowardRoark]

@ThinkBig: I understand that there is a lot and everyone needs sleep. Did you finish reading everything? (Before I hit you with, "Is that all you've got?")

[ThinkBig]

@Howard - I'm a bit more than half way through.