Mini 1855: Questionable Content Mafia - Game Over!

[DiamondSentinel]

Socrates and Dunnstral are being prodded. I think this is Socrates' second overall, and Dunnstral's first.

Edit: Nvmd, this is both's second prod.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Personally at this point I don't think the thread being more or less a back and forth solely between Camn and I is helpful. I've made my case. Others need to weigh in.

[Dunnstral]

Oops I'm here

First of all I've got krasko as town

I don't think pisskop is a godfather either

[Socrates]

I've made it to a library today, so let's get some posting in. I shoulda put V/LA like the mod suggested.

Oops I'm here

First of all I've got krasko as town

I don't think pisskop is a godfather either

What do you mean, "Oops, I'm here"? Are you just reading the thread, posting nothing? I certainly can't throw stones about meeting activity requirements, but did you just admit to tactically lurking?

But it looks like Camn admitted to being upgraded, so my theory about you is out the window?

Unless Camn flips scum? Nah, even then it's implausible.

All logic points to you being obvTown, so stop making my spidy-senses tingle, gosh darnit!

[Socrates]

Then in 299 we get “IAI is still scummy but I prefer a pisskop vote” which is textbook Suspect Partner, vote Town.

Except Pisskop might be scum. So if he flips scum.. is this classic: caught one scum, voted other scum? We will see.

I REALLY don't like how you accuse Magna of moving the goal-posts before he even had a chance to do it here, Camn.

The points about NK-ing Nacho also don't work for me one way or the other. Both are plausible narratives, and that's all there really is to it. Not because of "WIFOM", but because it ignores the fact that Mafia is a team game, and individual players don't have 100% freedom to NK based upon their personal whims, not to mention the fact that scum have access to info that we don't. That's why NK speculation is such a crapshoot.

Sure, Nacho was town-reading Camn, but was she confident that it would stick? What if she saw something in his behavior that made her suspect that he was power? She seems to know him pretty well, after all. What if her partner needed Nacho killed?

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On the other hand, Magna, how do you feel about the fact that Camn's waffle on IAI came just a few posts after

I

said that all catch-up posts read as scummy?

Personally, I thought she had just read my post and agreed.

[pisskop]

VOTE: camn

[pisskop]

tomorrow I super inky promise on my heart

[Socrates]

Kraska, why are you so confident in a townCamn?

[camn]

Personally at this point I don't think the thread being more or less a back and forth solely between Camn and I is helpful. I've made my case. Others need to weigh in.

Agreed.

[Socrates]

Re:fake claiming

I'm having a hard time judging when the Aristo-bus was decided upon among the scum. (Remember that scum probably have day-talk, according to Spy) He was clearly in on it, what with the self hammer, and everyone talks (and talked at the time) like Ari is the easiest scum-read on the site. This is why I said Nacho had been my biggest scum-read before seeing his flip on day 2.

The whole thing felt like a plan. This is why I said we shouldn't let Ari die without posting anything. That wasn't me trying to defend him, Magna, that was me saying "don't kill this guy without at least getting a claim out of him", which was where the thread seemed to be going. It was probably a futile statement, but I felt like I had to at least try to say it.

Camn being there to get him to participate in the nameclaim got points from me at the time, but in this context, if scum have fakeclaims, and he was planning to die, not using his would the

shrewd

thing to do and Camn being there to get it out of him would just be convenient.

Hmm.

[Dunnstral]

You sure drew a lot of random stuff out of me saying I was here

[Dunnstral]

For people voting camn right now, what are your reasons for doing so?

[Socrates]

You sure drew a lot of random stuff out of me saying I was here

Observing that your phrasing made it sound like you are tactically lurking is "a lot of random stuff"?

Everything else was unrelated.

[Dunnstral]

I'm not tactically lurking and never said I was

[Socrates]

I'm not tactically lurking and never said I was

But that's what I said. "Oops, I am here." in response to a prod can EASILY be interpreted that way, but it was PROBABLY just unfortunate phrasing and I am PROBABLY just being paranoid.

Did you even read what I said?

[Dunnstral]

I read what you said. You interpreted what I said however you wanted to, but I hadn't actually said or implied that

[MagnaofIllusion]

For people voting camn right now, what are your reasons for doing so?

Try reading the thread.

[camn]

Dear everyone who is voting for me... lets fast forward- I will not be lynched today.
I >might< be nightkilled tonight.. but probably not.
Tomorrow you might lynch me.
But not today.

That is all.

VOTE: Pisskop

[pisskop]

Oh Im an innocent child.

bye camn

[MagnaofIllusion]

Dear everyone who is voting for me... lets fast forward- I will not be lynched today.
I >might< be nightkilled tonight.. but probably not.
Tomorrow you might lynch me.
But not today.

That is all.

VOTE: Pisskop

More votes this way ...

[camn]

Oh Im an innocent child.

bye camn

Prove it.

[pisskop]

Dont need to. Im not leading wagon.

[pisskop]

Buh bye camn

[Socrates]

I read what you said. You interpreted what I said however you wanted to, but I hadn't actually said or implied that

Yeah, I had an initial, instinctive interpretation of your words, probably informed by the fact that I was already feeling weird about you, and then reasoned my way to it probably just being my imagination.

Your reaction to this is confusing the hell out of me. I just talked to Magna about scum over-reacting to minor statements about them by townies, and now here you are.

But again, all other logic points to you being town.

I asked you to

stop

making my spidey-senses tingle!

Pre-edit:

Nuh-uh Camn, this is a bridge too far. If you have something that should save you, then out with it already!

VOTE: CAMN

Pre-Pre-edit:

Dammit, pisskop! Fun fact, did you know that I got burned by a godfather really badly in my very first non-newbie game? I want to believe that you're town, but you're giving my nothing to work with, here!

[MagnaofIllusion]

Oh Im an innocent child.

bye camn

Prove it.

I just wanted to highlight Ms. "I claim when I want how I want" posted this.

Nuh-uh Camn, this is a bridge too far. If you have something that should save you, then out with it already!

VOTE: CAMN

Pre-Pre-edit:

Dammit, pisskop! Fun fact, did you know that I got burned by a godfather really badly in my very first non-newbie game? I want to believe that you're town, but you're giving my nothing to work with, here!

For the record this is L-1. Since Socrates didn't bother to mention it.