Pick Your Power: Double Deck (GAME OVER)

[Titus]

You either understood or didn't. My case was Kison was bussing LUV. You liked it. The thread had moved on due to rb's flip.

Send me fruit. I dare you.

[Vecna]

So just to once again reinforce my point, since you just keep claiming im lying (and I did quote the wrong post, so its partially my fault).....

You make your case in 2637.....fairly quickly after I make a post stating that Kraska keeps becoming more obvious town to me, and you wonder why I dont feel the same about you. I respond with post 2654, as quoted above here. I ask you for further clarification, but it never follows. This was what stood out to me, since I was not the only one finding your case hard to grasp (as other have stated, you quote half the thread and then give us 2,5 lines of explenation).

[Vecna]

Also, Rb had died even before you posted your case on them, so I dont really see how that had anything to do with it....

[Fishythefish]

The king of diamonds is obvtown. Town do not shoot the king of diamonds. That is all.

[Fishythefish]

To expand just a little:

- Scum don't want Lights Out Lynching to be in the game. It's very protown.
- Scum don't want to be lovers. Scum really fear death, particularly when outnumbered like they are here.
- Sure, the King of Diamonds gives you towncredit. That won't save you when your lover dies in a tragic pineapple accident. And in general, the towncred scum get for taking actions that weaken you significantly is never enough to compensate for that weakness.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

what's making adjusting my read based on jackal's claim is that i have legitimately no idea what scum would take. in my last pyp game i was able to clear someone based on what they claimed to pick making zero sense with their scumplay (Charloux, who's generally a D1 lynch as scum, picking Rolecop as scum didn't make sense because a scumteam that takes rolecop in that set-up is relying on it to root out a cop+doctor and doesn't want to bus D1).

with jackal's hand, i can't make a similar connection. i see someone who's worried about dying, which seems null for the most part?? his play is scummy so i still think he's a fine lynch.

I guess the point I want to make is... are scum actually going to take the obviously scummy picks like roleblockers that only can block cops and kills? because if so, having jackal as your deep townie makes little sense, which makes me crazy paranoid about how scum are arranged in the draft and what they ultimately picked.

also i'll admit i haven't read the last few pages so i'll probably just do a catch-up tomorrow. i was kind of focusing more on a newbie game that just finished and that was low-investment :/

[kraska77]

To expand just a little:

- Scum don't want Lights Out Lynching to be in the game. It's very protown.
- Scum don't want to be lovers. Scum really fear death, particularly when outnumbered like they are here.
- Sure, the King of Diamonds gives you towncredit. That won't save you when your lover dies in a tragic pineapple accident. And in general, the towncred scum get for taking actions that weaken you significantly is never enough to compensate for that weakness.

yes this

i haven't read the last few pages so i'll probably just do a catch-up tomorrow

theres nothing imp in the last 5 or whatever pages

[Jackel98]

Wait, I was at L-1, and then someone voted me. Am I hammered yet?

Killing Titus could be fun, but I don't want to lose the double lynch.

Self-meta here, but I tend to die early game, usually D1/D2 lynch. I thought my vengeful would either be used or be a deterrent against lynching me. Bulletproof is cool, scum having governor is not cool. Who doesn't like double voting and role cop?

[MariaR]

You're dead fam

[Jackel98]

Most of the wagons that gained traction were either on later-confirmed town (by flip or rb's possible inno on Transcend) or on my townreads, except for Vedith at the time. Now he doesn't feel as scummy? I've stopped paying attention, really, as the discussion right now is mostly on who to kill. I'll probably randomly pick from the player list, removing a couple of strong TRs. It could easily be better than how town's performing now.

[Jackel98]

Are you sure? Titus didn't seem to notice.

[MariaR]

Let me c

[MariaR]

Yup you're dead!

[kraska77]

why would u pick randomly
u do realise if u dont kill maria today, tomorrow will be basically a rerun of today and we'll lynch her anyway? thats why she should be killed already so we can move on to others

[MariaR]

why would u pick randomly
u do realise if u dont kill maria today, tomorrow will be basically a rerun of today and we'll lynch her anyway? thats why she should be killed already so we can move on to others

...Maybe Kraska did flip scum cause this is such a manipulation post No I didn't flip scum stop acting like I did just because you can't see it and you're being stubborn and I won't be lynched so move on and put effort into finding scum outside of me if you already think I'm scum stop barking up my tree and find my partners

[Jackel98]

I mean, she'd be dead either way? She doesn't seem forthcoming with information, so I guess killing her would prevent a waste of a day.

Or I could kill someone random and get random information. It might even be scum.

[Jackel98]

McMenno looks good, maybe. Why not him?

[kraska77]

he makes a great shot too, go for it ^_^

[Jackel98]

@All:

Hey, I'm not saying I'll do it, but would you rather Titus or Kraska be killed? No other answers welcome, just an opinion poll.

[MariaR]

Kraska 100%

[Fishythefish]

Don't shoot either of them. Shoot someone who is quite scummy, and impossible for us to read.

[MariaR]

Don't shoot either of them. Shoot Dunn.

Fixed.

[Jackel98]

@Fishy: Not a valid answer. Try again.

[Fishythefish]

@Maria: McMenno ticks all the boxes for me. TBH, I've no idea whether my lack of read on Dunn is his fault or mine.

@Jackel: If you really, really are deciding between those two: kraska. But I think both are pretty crappy picks. Worse than random by a good way.

[kraska77]

sure lets waste another 5 pages discussing hypothetical vengekills on town