Open 660 - White Flag (Game Over)

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: chilledtea
Your game balancing SUCKS. I saw what was said about Mini Normal 1829

[Gamma Emerald]

Is Lethargy a hydra acc?

Yes.
Also, I haven't played with you since Desperation Day!

[Gamma Emerald]

So this has started huh? VOTE: gamma. Your not gonna fool me twice!

That's not completed yet...

[Gamma Emerald]

I get the joke but you may have wanted to wait mkay?

[Gamma Emerald]

And that's terrible.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Dave
Your White Flag Gambit didn't work.

[Gamma Emerald]

Dave confscum for selfvoting

[Gamma Emerald]

is everything you do for the memes

[Gamma Emerald]

I fail at post tagging when I hydra.

[Gamma Emerald]

Nah

They quoted it because it was an

hydra

slip

There is no relevance to it at all.

Fixed

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Eric Rasputin
Seems to be posturing.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well, I didn't buy his response. He says that his two votes were meme. But I don't see how the second self vote is a meme vote.

If he is lynch bating he is doing a good job.

Why would scum vote for themselves seriously?

Why would town self-hammer?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think his most recent post is silly seeing as he self hammered as town in a previous game I played with him.

Oh right that. There was enough information in the game, there wasn't much support for any other lynch, and deadline approached. Addendum to previous post: with plenty of days left.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Eric Rasputin
Seems to be posturing.

Can you elaborate on this?

He's making suggestions but not acting on them.

[Gamma Emerald]

Drunk posting is fun posting

[Gamma Emerald]

Lol ... So much analysis based on nothing ... Seems like Im posturing? What does that even mean? All I proposed was to quicken the game ...

Fixed that.

... I'm tired of professing that Im town since you guys dont listen anyway ... Do what you guys think is right(it might cost you the game)

I'm happy with my vote.
Also: DOES NO ONE UNDERSTAND THE ONGOING GAMES RULE?

[Gamma Emerald]

And it's funny that you have moved on on your case on Aubrey and since someone had said that I'm scummy, you're clearly jumping on me. And it's also funny you're saying that I'm supporting a case back, when you're also doing it. Supporting alban's case on me by sheeping him.

This is wrong, no matter how bad the push was ssbm still pushed Aubrey

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Eric Rasputin
Seems to be posturing.

Can you elaborate on this?

He's making suggestions but not acting on them.

You strike me like you are bored in this game. Any truth to that?

Yeah, kinda. I mainly joined so it could fill, as I noticed it was sitting there for a while. I'll still do my best.

[Gamma Emerald]

Is Lethargy a hydra acc?

We still aren't sure what's aubrey's alignment is. hmmm

Oh yeah we don't have any PRs here so I think this game would last long.

I hope you're not scum, Toto.

tbh i don't find any scummy atm. mostly i read as not serious.

Anyone played with Keyen before?
Does this fit in with his usual playing style?
This=short posts, numerous posts, easy distribution of towncreds, etc.

I don't really remember
I kinda view him as natural lynchbait from my last game with him and was SRing ssbm for a bit for pushing him, but I noticed something in key's play that changed my mind

[Gamma Emerald]

And it's funny that you have moved on on your case on Aubrey and since someone had said that I'm scummy, you're clearly jumping on me. And it's also funny you're saying that I'm supporting a case back, when you're also doing it. Supporting alban's case on me by sheeping him.

This is wrong, no matter how bad the push was ssbm still pushed Aubrey

Could you expand this more? I don't get it lol

I thought you were accusing ssbm of being hypocritical by bandwagoning on you.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh wait. 658 ended this morning. I can talk about it now. Dave literally pushed Transcend for the exact same reasoning I pushed him in said game. We were both townies in said game as well. While I understand this doesn't mean Dave is town 100% I think it looks good on his part, and it makes me think he is actively trying to place him which seems townie to me. It is a slight town lean mind you. Hence my Deja vu comment.

DONT FUCK IT UP DAVE! xoxoxo with love,

Aubrey.

ps.

Dont fuck it up.

So you're an alt from that game...
I don't know everyone's alts, don't confuse me like that.

No, it was not an alt. Aubrey was there, Transcend was there, I was there.

[Gamma Emerald]

I doubt Dave read that game.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
I definitely feel better about Eric/LQ

[Gamma Emerald]

BW = bandwagon
200$ is a Monopoly joke

[Gamma Emerald]

LQ plz don't be clueless that clearly maens in addition

[Gamma Emerald]

Mkay.
Anything in particular?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, it seems you checked everything. Why not vote me?

[Gamma Emerald]

So Toto believes someone is bussing Dave.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm sorry, I'm trying to understand what you mean but I can't. How did I reach that conclusion?

You mean because you voted dave and I scum read dave I should never scum read you?

No, I'm just trying to understand your thought process. What makes you so sure it's a bus?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not a fan of how Gamma is wording things...
Making it seem like we're both scum... >.>

I didn't get that Toto believed someone was bussing me. That really makes no sense to me...

AAAAH
This dude thinks derptown will destroy him
VOTE: PsychoticDave

[Gamma Emerald]

@Aubrey: remember I replaced into a widely scumread slot when I was scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

@gamma I don't think I said anyone was bussing dave. Where did you get the idea I was sure of that?

@Dave, please give me your top 2 reads. In terms of confidence. Scum or town. Doesn't matter.

I misread your post is what happened

[Gamma Emerald]

@gamma I don't think I said anyone was bussing dave. Where did you get the idea I was sure of that?

@Dave, please give me your top 2 reads. In terms of confidence. Scum or town. Doesn't matter.

I misread your post is what happened

Any chance I can get a reads list from you?

Probably not
I'd rather just state a read or two at a time, I feel list reads restrain changing of opinion so I do them very rarely

[Gamma Emerald]

Do you want me to replace out? Just tell me if that's the case as I only signed up for this game so it could fill

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm interested because my I like this game
I just feel a bit disconnected because there's not going to be much in the way of twists

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm interested because my I like this game
I just feel a bit disconnected because there's not going to be much in the way of twists

How the hell could you possibly know something like that?

Part of what I like about the game is the night play or other strange mechanics
This is just "scum can't lose as much people and still win"

[Gamma Emerald]

OK then

Replace me out

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay I'll come back so alban doesn't have to worry about PMing me
I'll try my best to contribute

[Gamma Emerald]

Am at L-4 with votes from Keyen, Transcend and LQ.
Dave and Toto will join for sure.
Gamma maybe.
That will put me at L-1.
All the scums in there?

You know me a bit too well, I

am

willing to vote you.

[Gamma Emerald]

btw, Keyen one genuine question for you. I wanted to ask this to you long before. But I forgot. Your resurfacing reminded me of this.

Spoiler:

@Alban, It's because I still haven't felt something suspicious. Maybe I am just a VI or just dumb or maybe just bored and lazy to play mafia games?

Oh yeah. I was VI back then. Newbie days.

FUCK, THE GAME ATE MY POST! Ugh. Not going to be as eloquent.

@Keyen

Basically you're not voting anybody, but have said you have 2 scum leans, 1 town read, and everybody else null. One would suspect you would vote one of your scum leans. You don't like them because they are pushing you. It is

kinda

OMGUS, even if they are not voting you, because you are scum reading them only for their pressuring against you. Minus of course your dissaproval of Ssmb's crappy push against me.

If I never feel like there's something scummy on the way he's pressuring me, Then I wouldn't have done something like OMGUS. But the problem is, I feel like there's something added to it. Like it's not a town push. If it is, I would have asked myself if his pressure is really accurate and that the reason would have suspected myself too.

My another point is that - Yes, he's pressuring me but I feel like there's a scum thing on that push, and the way he pressures me is really hard like I don't even know what I am gonna explain, and it is really frustrating especially I am town and I don't know what to do and that I can't suspect him simply by saying it's a gut feeling, that would be 10x I'll be scummy. And this thing is what I'm experiencing right now.

Call me VI but I'm town.

Why would you keep calling yourself as a VI?
I know newbies or ineffective players really find that term offensive. You can call a bad player anything - literally anything - and they are fine with it, except when you call them the VI. Then they flip. They scream, shout, the works.
It's weird, how you are quick to call yourself a VI before anyone even entertaining that possibility. Not once but thrice. Why would you harp on something thrice?
I am a VI.
I am a VI.
I am a VI.....

Is that coz you would rather be considered a VI for your posts and not be considered a scum for your posts lacking content? I think your posts lack content coz you are scum but not a good one at that and are not able to hide your alignment by coming up with convincingly deeper content oriented posts.

So please answer my q. Why did you think of yourself as a VI?

Are you scumreading keyen for this?

[Gamma Emerald]

Consider this my defence-cum-advice in case I am not alive:

One advice to the townies among you on the wagon: The q you should be asking, did he really become aggressive as is being perpetrated, and if yes, why would he do that? Was there a need for him to? Was he in a difficult place to begin with?
But if you come to the conclusion that there was nothing aggressive about his post, and that it was just a joke, and somehow a joke was spun out of proportion, then the obvious q you would be asking,

who did that?

You should read posts around mine to get that.

But that's less interesting.

More interesting will be to analyse the wagon. It's night here, so it is possible that I could be lynched by the time I am up. If I flip scum, well you have nothing to worry. Good for

finding me out so easily.

But if I flip town, this is a valuable info. Look at who is on my wagon. And look at their reasons

Transcend:

Votes for me coz I suggested not voting for a newbie like Cracker. I agree, so scummy. A scum!me will of course try to dissuade you from voting someone else.

Dave:

Hasn't voted yet, but suspects me for suggesting not to vote for Cracker coz I am Cracker's partner. So scummy of me. A scum!me will of course try to dissuade you from voting for my partner by urging you to vote for me

LQ:

Coz I am uppity to begin with, and his post-vote reaction (post-vote being the operative word) that I overreacted. So scummy of me. A scum!me will be openly arrogant and feel threatened after receiving two votes. Like that's not contradictory.

Keyen:

Votes for me coz I misunderstood his suspicion of me as a vote. Mistake happened on my part, but Keyen thinks that was scummy and should be reprimanded with a vote. So scummy of me. A scum!me will deliberately try to count an extra vote, especially from a person I am suspecting.

Lethargy:

Who thinks I am bitter for having a vote on me. So scummy of me. A scum!me will be open with my bitterness for receiving one vote.

My guess, one scum here for sure. Hierarchy from scum to town:

LQ=Keyen

>

Lethargy=Dave

>

Transcend

LQ, given your experience, I am surprised you were so openly opportunistic. If you're a town, it's even more surprising. You have zero reason for voting me.
Same goes for Lethargy. Opportunistic. But not surprised looking at your joining date.
Keyen & Dave, I was anyway suspecting you, so this opportunism doesn't come as a surprise.
Transcend, why am I not surprised? Unpredictability is your second nature.

Finally, just to make you aware what my contribution has been to the game, for you to think if a scum would do that:
1. I thought Keyen is fake and constantly questioned him. Look at my ISO. Look at our interaction. I persisted with my suspicion despite any wagon.
2. I thought newer, weaker or absentee players should not be targetted on day 1. They can be scum, but their lynches don't tell us anything. Plus, having a weaker scum in the later parts is okay. Multiple cases in point. I opposed voting against Eric, Cracker, Lethargy.
3. I didn't want Gamma to replace coz a slot becomes fuzzy once taken over by a different person. I pursuaded Gamma to come back. It's a small thing, but a scum would want chaos in the game. I wanted more order in the game.

P-edit:
Keyen: If I am scummy for appearing bitter, frustrated or childish, I guess I must be Coz perceptions are everything, right? Just one more q for you (I seem to have an endless supply for you): tell me what are you gonna do when I flip town? Who will be your top contenders for being scums (and I want the town to listen to his answer carefully). Keyen, you realise

you are going to be under scrutiny

, right? If you are scum, you are doomed coz a townflip was suspecting you. If you are town (yes, believe it or not, but despite all my pressure, I do entertain that possibility), the scum is gonna make the town go against you. Whether town or scum, you are screwed baby.

LQ: My posts around the one Transcend vote started as a joke, but

you made sure that it snowballed

. Most of my recent comments have been lighthearted, including the posthumous remark. For you to not see the light side of it is weird. But given that you do not see that, and given that I am at L-2, I would like to see the positive side of the wagon rather than be negative about it. So, to answer your comment, no, the wagon

didn't begin

as a move to assist the city, but now that

it's built, why not use it for something better

like finding scum. If I am anyway gonna be lynched for a stray remark, I rather caution town what to do once I am gone.

This post seems extremely contrived. Why are you even considering the possibility you are scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah this isn't right

UNVOTE:

Why did you unvote him?

Wagon comp most likely

[Gamma Emerald]

After my pattern review, I find your answer to my question to be indicative of scum. Last time someone pushed someone on that "town would make comments about themselves like that" basis they were scum.
VOTE: alban

[Gamma Emerald]

After my pattern review, I find your answer to my question to be indicative of scum. Last time someone pushed someone on that "town would make comments about themselves like that" basis they were scum.
VOTE: alban

And thereby implying that Keyen's behaviour is not scummy?
You realise the contradiction?

You misinterpret my post.
In a past game, I said "I feel like lynchbait rn". Scum said "why would town post this?" and voted me.

[Gamma Emerald]

After my pattern review, I find your answer to my question to be indicative of scum. Last time someone pushed someone on that "town would make comments about themselves like that" basis they were scum.
VOTE: alban

And thereby implying that Keyen's behaviour is not scummy?
You realise the contradiction?

You misinterpret my post.
In a past game, I said "I feel like lynchbait rn". Scum said "why would town post this?" and voted me.

Let's play this game.
Do you believe Keyen is scummy or not?

I feel he plays in a way that gets him scumread by opportunistic scum, from when I was scum with him town. However he could be scum, but I feel your argument against him is likely to come from scum, more likely than he is to be.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler:

Consider this my defence-cum-advice in case I am not alive:

One advice to the townies among you on the wagon: The q you should be asking, did he really become aggressive as is being perpetrated, and if yes, why would he do that? Was there a need for him to? Was he in a difficult place to begin with?
But if you come to the conclusion that there was nothing aggressive about his post, and that it was just a joke, and somehow a joke was spun out of proportion, then the obvious q you would be asking,

who did that?

You should read posts around mine to get that.

But that's less interesting.

More interesting will be to analyse the wagon. It's night here, so it is possible that I could be lynched by the time I am up. If I flip scum, well you have nothing to worry. Good for

finding me out so easily.

But if I flip town, this is a valuable info. Look at who is on my wagon. And look at their reasons

Transcend:

Votes for me coz I suggested not voting for a newbie like Cracker. I agree, so scummy. A scum!me will of course try to dissuade you from voting someone else.

Dave:

Hasn't voted yet, but suspects me for suggesting not to vote for Cracker coz I am Cracker's partner. So scummy of me. A scum!me will of course try to dissuade you from voting for my partner by urging you to vote for me

LQ:

Coz I am uppity to begin with, and his post-vote reaction (post-vote being the operative word) that I overreacted. So scummy of me. A scum!me will be openly arrogant and feel threatened after receiving two votes. Like that's not contradictory.

Keyen:

Votes for me coz I misunderstood his suspicion of me as a vote. Mistake happened on my part, but Keyen thinks that was scummy and should be reprimanded with a vote. So scummy of me. A scum!me will deliberately try to count an extra vote, especially from a person I am suspecting.

Lethargy:

Who thinks I am bitter for having a vote on me. So scummy of me. A scum!me will be open with my bitterness for receiving one vote.

My guess, one scum here for sure. Hierarchy from scum to town:

LQ=Keyen

>

Lethargy=Dave

>

Transcend

LQ, given your experience, I am surprised you were so openly opportunistic. If you're a town, it's even more surprising. You have zero reason for voting me.
Same goes for Lethargy. Opportunistic. But not surprised looking at your joining date.
Keyen & Dave, I was anyway suspecting you, so this opportunism doesn't come as a surprise.
Transcend, why am I not surprised? Unpredictability is your second nature.

Finally, just to make you aware what my contribution has been to the game, for you to think if a scum would do that:
1. I thought Keyen is fake and constantly questioned him. Look at my ISO. Look at our interaction. I persisted with my suspicion despite any wagon.
2. I thought newer, weaker or absentee players should not be targetted on day 1. They can be scum, but their lynches don't tell us anything. Plus, having a weaker scum in the later parts is okay. Multiple cases in point. I opposed voting against Eric, Cracker, Lethargy.
3. I didn't want Gamma to replace coz a slot becomes fuzzy once taken over by a different person. I pursuaded Gamma to come back. It's a small thing, but a scum would want chaos in the game. I wanted more order in the game.

P-edit:
Keyen: If I am scummy for appearing bitter, frustrated or childish, I guess I must be Coz perceptions are everything, right? Just one more q for you (I seem to have an endless supply for you): tell me what are you gonna do when I flip town? Who will be your top contenders for being scums (and I want the town to listen to his answer carefully). Keyen, you realise

you are going to be under scrutiny

, right? If you are scum, you are doomed coz a townflip was suspecting you. If you are town (yes, believe it or not, but despite all my pressure, I do entertain that possibility), the scum is gonna make the town go against you. Whether town or scum, you are screwed baby.

LQ: My posts around the one Transcend vote started as a joke, but

you made sure that it snowballed

. Most of my recent comments have been lighthearted, including the posthumous remark. For you to not see the light side of it is weird. But given that you do not see that, and given that I am at L-2, I would like to see the positive side of the wagon rather than be negative about it. So, to answer your comment, no, the wagon

didn't begin

as a move to assist the city, but now that

it's built, why not use it for something better

like finding scum. If I am anyway gonna be lynched for a stray remark, I rather caution town what to do once I am gone.

This post seems extremely contrived. Why are you even considering the possibility you are scum?

Coz for a defence to be complete, it needs to include situations which are imagined by the person who is accusing you.

The problem is you seem to be giving TOO MUCH credit to the possibility of you being scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler:

After my pattern review, I find your answer to my question to be indicative of scum. Last time someone pushed someone on that "town would make comments about themselves like that" basis they were scum.
VOTE: alban

And thereby implying that Keyen's behaviour is not scummy?
You realise the contradiction?

You misinterpret my post.
In a past game, I said "I feel like lynchbait rn". Scum said "why would town post this?" and voted me.

Let's play this game.
Do you believe Keyen is scummy or not?

I feel he plays in a way that gets him scumread by opportunistic scum, from when I was scum with him town. However he could be scum, but I feel your argument against him is likely to come from scum, more likely than he is to be.

Possible. But how is that an argument against town!me finding something about scum!Keyen in this game? Or are you averse to that possibility?

Why is saying you're a VI or lynchbait so bad?

[Gamma Emerald]

Good for

finding me out so easily.

This was unnecessary and feels a bit self-indulgent.

[Gamma Emerald]

@gamma I don't think I said anyone was bussing dave. Where did you get the idea I was sure of that?

@Dave, please give me your top 2 reads. In terms of confidence. Scum or town. Doesn't matter.

I misread your post is what happened

Given your attempt to leave later on I'm more willing to buy this. However, can you please explain this a bit more, how did you misread my post?

I missed you mentioning Dave in that scumpool earlier so I assumed you figured someone was bussing him.

[Gamma Emerald]

If you think I am confusing now, LOL, you should have seen when I first started. You don't get lynched day 1 8 times in your first 16 games without people misunderstanding you. I'm not making excuses, this is fact. The info is there, you can fact check me, I have pretty much every game I have played on my wiki. I am a very, very confusing player to try and understand.

@Aubrey, the rule is this: if they legitimately get offended, the are Town. If they are not, they are Scum.

Not quite. When the offense seems genuine, you also have to check why: town upset they are scumread, or scum upset for being caught for the wrong reasons.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Aubrey: You were in Open 654. What do you think about my point against alban for attacking keyen when keyen called himself VI?

[Gamma Emerald]

Transcend feels town, IIRC he did the same thing in Open 658 where he had a bunch of naked votes.

[Gamma Emerald]

Still feels town
Voted alban early
Not too fond of the switch off but I can see town in it

[Gamma Emerald]

Don't really have many scumreads beyond alban, but I think I can PoE my way to victory after alban's scumflip

[Gamma Emerald]

@Aubrey: You were in Open 654. What do you think about my point against alban for attacking keyen when keyen called himself VI?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Aubrey: You were in Open 654. What do you think about my point against alban for attacking keyen when keyen called himself VI?

Hmm. It stems from flak you got when you said you felt like lynchbait in that game? I vaguely remember. Did you look back and see if only scum used this against you or if town also used it against you?

The main person who used it against me was scum, yes.

[Gamma Emerald]

That's what informs my read on him
One of LQ or Transcend is probscum for how the wagon developed

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Cracker
I'll see where this goes

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are you following someone you potentially scumread alongside alban Gamma?

I think they have a point on Cracker and the alban wagon has no traction

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't care how easy the slot is to push, no one cares for what I was voting previously, so I hopped on something else

[Gamma Emerald]

zzz

[Gamma Emerald]

Truth be told I want to see Cracker flip because your defense feels like scum defending a buddy

[Gamma Emerald]

You had a bracketed list of scum
I missed daves name in there
I assumed that meant you thought someone was bussing him

[Gamma Emerald]

LQ's vote was not naked, she had reasons

[Gamma Emerald]

LQ's vote was not naked, she had reasons

I don't know whether to thank you or tell you to suck it for getting my pronoun wrong. Seriously, do I come across as female to you? Bizarre.

I use pronouns based on posting style/username
I kept calling Aubrey a she for a long time

[Gamma Emerald]

LQ's vote was not naked, she had reasons

I don't know whether to thank you or tell you to suck it for getting my pronoun wrong. Seriously, do I come across as female to you? Bizarre.

I use pronouns based on posting style/username
I kept calling Aubrey a she for a long time

No mention of avatars. I've Scum read people for less.

That too
There was this one guy who was so rude about the fact he misgendered someone
Let me find the quote that pissed me of real quick

[Gamma Emerald]

havent u heard

it's the era of catfishing

This pissed me off so much
My reaction to what he said was "you're a dick, don't play with me ever"

[Gamma Emerald]

I reported him immediately but my report got ignored lol

You reported him?
TRANSCEND FOR MVP!

[Gamma Emerald]

I thought you were doing wagon analysis ON Dave.

[Gamma Emerald]

All I'm getting from Gamma is confusion.
Speaking of, I thought you were replacing out?

Changed my mind

[Gamma Emerald]

Rmph
UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

Key Aubrey alban strong town

Gamma/LQ not on the same scum team, but one is scum. Strong lean LQ.

Dave is still prob a mislynch but just has questionable play.

Ssbm and toto are scumfucks

Deer and cracker are null

Lethargy prob lynchbait mislynch

Did i miss anyone?

Yourself, LOL.

Are you THAT type of person?

[Gamma Emerald]

I was asking if you listed yourself in readslists
what were you thinking

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Transcend may be putting on an act
VOTE: Transcend

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Transcend may be putting on an act
VOTE: Transcend

what do you think of LQ.

Gut town.

[Gamma Emerald]

I say gut because it's flimsy logic.

[Gamma Emerald]

Not to sound newbie but what's a POE? I don't really understand it.

Process Of Elimination
Finding solid townreads and lynching from the rest

[Gamma Emerald]

That vote by Transcend is fishy.

[Gamma Emerald]

That vote by Transcend is fishy.

Do tell...

You stated you were willing to lynch me or Transcend for the same reasons, then he votes me
Voting your counterwagon is a survival tactic, but why is he worried about survival?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'll prolly sheep Transcend by deadline on reputation alone tbh but I will do a focused reread tomorrow, hosting a dank melee tournament at my house tonight so I'll be off.

Is that what the ssbm in your name means?

[Gamma Emerald]

Sheeping me as in lynching me?

):

Jk ur scum idrc.

Why is ssbm scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

???

[Gamma Emerald]

It still means nothing.

[Gamma Emerald]

LOL

[Gamma Emerald]

You're fantastic.

[Gamma Emerald]

i'm playing survivalistic and to get information my scumreads aren't getting lynched so i'm banking on being wrong

We can still lynch Transcend for comments like this.

Yes, that's part of why I'm voting him right now.

[Gamma Emerald]

man people have no idea how to read me

it's great

because i've played this way as scum before

This post is definitely sketchy

Re-voting.

VOTE: Ssbm

eeeww

[Gamma Emerald]

@alban: I think I'm coming around on keyen. His last two posts aren't very good.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE : ssbm_Kyouko

"I have a scum read on alban. If alban is scum, then transcend is scum. If transcend is town however, he will be nkd. BTW I am going to sheep transcend bcoz he tends to have good reads."

If you are town this is the most ridiculous line of thought ever. Sheeping someone who is your possible scum read is just ridiculous.

I don't think you're following what I'm saying. Transcend is only associatively scum if alban turns out to be scum. Until I know that alban is scum I'm not going to vote Transcend unless: 1) he or another player make other associative tells to lead me to believe he is scum with that player, and 2) that player is revealed by flip to be scum. I would of course vote him if I felt like he was openly scumtelling but his town play looks scummy which is why I don't judge him on his words alone, but on how others interact with him.

This playstyle will lose the game. Stop looking for associations and look for individual scumminess.

[Gamma Emerald]

This playstyle will lose the game. Stop looking for associations and look for individual scumminess.

There isn't just one scum though. Associations are useful for catching scum

Go to wiki and read about the White Flag Gambit.

[Gamma Emerald]

It's allowed.

[Gamma Emerald]

Can someone sum up the case on Toto?

[Gamma Emerald]

Can someone sum up the case on Toto?

do you have reasons for why we should like him?

I'm seeing pieces from multiple people and want a summary.

[Gamma Emerald]

Are you thinking I am townreading him, or what?

[Gamma Emerald]

I've had a bit of a townlean on him for trying to sort things based of what he believes.

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean he seems to be structuring things around a certain belief. This could be scum preparing a grand plan just to find a new one based on other ideas, so it balances to townlean because the method feels towny.

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait that was based on old thoughts shit

[Gamma Emerald]

I see the issue is Toto voting Dave for dubious reasons. Can someone expand on this?

[Gamma Emerald]

Because I see minimal explanation of the case.

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel this game is not going anywhere without more people involved.

My town read on key went stale. I think he is a good player but he is not putting too much thought or effort in this game. Given the game state is probably NAI but it is not helping either.

From the less active players I like chill the most.

I'n on vla for next 2 days.

UNVOTE:

Why did you unvote me? What changed?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Kein/Kain/whatever: That's an insane idea but we'll see if it works.

[Gamma Emerald]

GAMMA IS LURKING....... i saw her post in the queue after me but she hasn't posted here....... MAFIA DETECTED................!!!

VOTE: GAMMA

Are you fucking kidding me? You're worse than me in my first game! I have other games I'm playing.

[Gamma Emerald]

why are you so angry from just ONE VOTE on you?? please explain the OVERREACTION.......?

It's not the vote, it's the fact you think I'm lurking just because I posted elsewhere.

[Gamma Emerald]

so you were not lurking....?

how come you posted in OTHER PLACES and didn't post here and then SUDDENLY posted here after I voted you?

Because I have other games. Unlike ToS, you can play MULTIPLE GAMES AT THE SAME TIME!

[Gamma Emerald]

i am getting VERY SUSPICIOUS of people who deliberately IGNORE MY QUESTIONS............. its like they are scum afraid of me!!!!

that is TOTO and GAMMA............... look at this toto post:

I unvoted because Im on vl/a and don't have time to keep up with the thread...

I already explained my case on david. When I scumhunt I look for inconsistencies in personalities. The david that unvotes an rvs vote on a growing wagon is a careful david. The david that self votes is a reckless david. There is no way a self vote is a meme vote like he says. You don't vote yourself with 5 other votes for no reason whatsoever. You are trying to make a point that you don't care if you get lynched. How is that consistent with his previous action? Why doesn't he care if he dies but cares enough to remove his meme vote.

All he did this game was game avoid. He shaded Alban but never voted him he . He never gave a catch up post or A read list. He is never in the thread but now that Im being wagoned he suddenly appears very promptly and coms up with some bs reason to vote me. THAT is very OPORTUNiSTIC.

Dave you could have made the same case against me all game. Why did you wait for this moment? Ill let you take your time to answer that.

he completely ignored my post a few posts above him asking him about why he thinks CHILLEDTEA is least suspicious; only TARGETED questions he feel comfortable answering, which is SCUM FEELING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if toto is town though then DAVE must be scum.... .i don't like how defensive he is, he only really talks when toto is making ACCUSATIORY REMARKS at him.... showing little willingness to FIND SCUM HIMSELF!!!!!!!!

What questions do you have for me?
And it's hard to notice them when YOU speak IN this WEIRD capsing LIKE Gamzee.

[Gamma Emerald]

but GAMMA i still want you to answer my question. you are online and didnt say ANYTHING until i voted you............ that is scum lurking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1) town lurk.
2) I was doing other shit.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler:

Aubrey, lynch someone who will give you maximum information, whichever way they flip. Without severely jeopardizing the town in case they flip town.
For me, that's either Toto, Ganma, ssbm and Keyen.

Do you have finals around this time? Is that why you have been less active?

Thank god, no! A demanding job though.
What would you have me do?

IDK, just keep making quality posts, I guess.

Let's bounce off ideas on the famous four: Toto, Key, Dave and ssbm. Who do you think is the most likely to be scum?

In order of Scummy:

Toto - I've had my issues with him. I don't like peoples playstyle that don't post very often. That's not why I think he is Scummiest though. I think he is Scummiest because of the stances he has made mostly.
Dave (new) - Has done pretty much nothing this game for someone who ignores illogical posts.
Key - Key hasn't really made any strong stances this whole game. This is concerning because he's not a newb.
ssbm - I just read their posts as Townie even though they are wrong on a decent amount of things. Can't point out specific things, but that's just what I get reading their posts.

I voted for Toto coz I don't mind lynching him and a wagon was building. And coz his reasons pro- and against- certain players have been shaky. It's arguable whether that's a good enough reason to vote, but in absence of anything more for anyone, I am going with that.
Why did you unvote?

What's his name made some good points, so I know he is not a complete dult, crazy player. I don't think I want to lynch him today. I'd like to see what kind of stances he makes when he's caught up.

Cracker was never on my list, so I am not much bothered about the replacement. He is all over the place and this behaviour is more harmful than helpful, so close to the deadline. Elicits all sorts of different thoughts in different people, leading to mayhem. In any case, as far as I remember, he is after Gamma, and I dunno if I am gonna go after Gamma, coz there's literally nothing Gamma has done this game.

I didn't like this post by you. You have absolutely nothing even on your scummiest (Toto). But the way you are passing it off is as if it's their problem, not yours.

I don't like this "X has done nothing" attitude, and find it scummy.

[Gamma Emerald]

KT plays up this newbtown act and I don't like it.

[Gamma Emerald]

how can i be a NEWB when i have 1200 wins on town of salem? you're just JEALOUS so you are trying to making me sound like I am INEXPERIENCED AND STUPID........ dont be a bully, im not stupid............ My teacher said, i have a lot of POTENTIAL,,

CHILLEDTEA's post seems ok so far THOUGH can you explain why you are trying to STOP me from chasing after you?? are you trying to discredit me in case I ever accuse you???

so CHILLDTEA who do you think is more SCUMMY then, dave or toto??? your post seems to be deciding between them two so EXPLAIN...........

KAIN TEPES STEPPING OUT...................!

Your "town NEVER LURKS" idea is FUCKING IDIOTIC and you need to not believe everything is cut and dry. And ToS means JACK SHIT to me.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm with chilled on this tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

What would you say is the case if Toto flips scum or town Aubrey?

[Gamma Emerald]

I want answers both ways.

[Gamma Emerald]

I want answers both ways.

Why? What are you thinking?

I'm thinking he's avoiding taking stances. His response enforces that belief.

[Gamma Emerald]

We've still got two days, so I'll try this.
VOTE: Aubrey

[Gamma Emerald]

How are you reading that action?

[Gamma Emerald]

also Gamma admitted.... that he was LURKING.....

Yes, so?

[Gamma Emerald]

the way you phrased your first post was as if you were not lurking but now you change your stance to TOWN LURKS TOO.......

I was upset you thought that was indicative of lurking. I AM lurking, however, because my drive to push things had been reduced.
As for the Aubrey thing, I figure that we might be able to sort a few slots better with a flashwagon.

[Gamma Emerald]

Baseless votes? How fascinating.

Your stances are near-nonexistant, you admit that yourself. Not baseless.

[Gamma Emerald]

DEADLINE is approaching and GAMMA AND LICK derailing wagon of the TOTO...... this behavior is smelly

I was voting Transcend.

[Gamma Emerald]

why are you so angry from just ONE VOTE on you?? please explain the OVERREACTION.......?

It's not the vote, it's the fact you think I'm lurking

just because I posted elsewhere.

I took offense to you saying it because posting elsewhere is NOT indicative of lurking. I AM lurking, but not in the way you think.

[Gamma Emerald]

sfgjjjffggb
I've explained myself and if I keep trying I'll likely end up talking in circles
one more time
I am lurking because I am less motivated to play than normal
You think I am lurking because I am posting elsewhere, you also state town doesn't lurk
I refute both points, but state I am lurking because of the above reasons
You think I am saying I'm not lurking when I first addressed it
I was just a little peeved at the read
so...
If I had stated I was lurking in my first post things might be clearer
That's where the issue seems to lie.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yuck. Town of Salem. Different beast than this. I wouldn't derail a wagon off of SSBM after doing some thinking (with me on it btw), only to move it onto my partner. That is just dumb.

I like to think of possible associates pre flip

Theory: Toto is scum, and Kain is scum as well wanting to appear pro town by being hyper aggressive, and then when he sees his chance he tries and derail the wagon, but still has the opportunity to vote his buddy should there be no alternative. If Toto does flip scum, you're prime suspect number one for me bud.

Heeeey I noticed this upon ISO.
So you are making Toto!scum theories.

[Gamma Emerald]

sfgjjjffggb
I've explained myself and if I keep trying I'll likely end up talking in circles
one more time
I am lurking because I am less motivated to play than normal
You think I am lurking because I am posting elsewhere, you also state town doesn't lurk
I refute both points, but state I am lurking because of the above reasons
You think I am saying I'm not lurking when I first addressed it
I was just a little peeved at the read
so...
If I had stated I was lurking in my first post things might be clearer
That's where the issue seems to lie.

so you are saying you were always saying that you were LURKING,, is that what you mean and did i get that right??

I always knew I was lurking, I did not always state it.

[Gamma Emerald]

sfgjjjffggb
I've explained myself and if I keep trying I'll likely end up talking in circles
one more time
I am lurking because I am less motivated to play than normal
You think I am lurking because I am posting elsewhere, you also state town doesn't lurk
I refute both points, but state I am lurking because of the above reasons
You think I am saying I'm not lurking when I first addressed it
I was just a little peeved at the read
so...
If I had stated I was lurking in my first post things might be clearer
That's where the issue seems to lie.

"I'm motivated now."...

Pardon?

[Gamma Emerald]

Are we discussing ongoing games here? Can we please not? Keep it in here please.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm actually considering LQ, but I'm a bit hung up by your reaction.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm actually considering LQ, but I'm a bit hung up by your reaction.

Hung up by who's reaction to what?

Aubrey's reaction to our votes.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I can get over my issues then.
VOTE: LQ

[Gamma Emerald]

So far my strongest lead has been Dave. I have tried to get answers from him but he is just avoiding the game. I summarized my case here: 1042.

I have a feeling that Dave has site flaked.

Gamma has pinged me and I have questioned her but I think it is just their play-style.

Her
Gamma, you fucking girl!


However, Alban is pinging me so far, i'll check his ISO first later.

LOL
I DID play as a Lady in one of the Dance games.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not a fan of how Gamma is wording things...
Making it seem like we're both scum... >.>

I didn't get that Toto believed someone was bussing me. That really makes no sense to me...

What the hell is the point of defending Cracker

Exactly.
I see no reason to defend someone against votes that really aren't even happening yet.
Seems like scum trying to get votes away from a buddy, but a really bad attempt.

These are his two best posts, the rest sucks some serious ass.

The first one actually sucks ass. Why is he so concerned about that?

[Gamma Emerald]

I thought alts can't play in the same game, but I could be wrong.

That's correct.

[Gamma Emerald]

What?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not voting Dave until LQ explains what they mean by "potential for content".

[Gamma Emerald]

Loaded questions are always fun.

Seriously, is Vedith legitimately Transcend's alt?

As them being different alignments wouldn't work, we would be able to assume that they are the same alignment, in which case we could confirm the alignment of one by lynching the other.

It makes zero sense.

THAT'S WHY ALTS CAN'T PLAY TOGETHER!!!!!!!

[Gamma Emerald]

BTW I came from Starmen.net and I'll kick your ass if you insult my experience there. Those guys are GOOD.

[Gamma Emerald]

BTW I came from Starmen.net and I'll kick your ass if you insult my experience there. Those guys are GOOD.

I hate starmen.net players! :<

That would be me, Eggman, and Grendel.
Is this serious?

[Gamma Emerald]

...He's just ragging on me, isn't he?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd like some explanation, but I'm willing.

[Gamma Emerald]

I NEVER CONTRADICTED MYSELF, I JUST DIDN'T PUT EVERYTHING INTO THE SAME POST, LEAVING THINGS OPEN TO INTERPRETATION.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well at least you aren't like Herzon.

[Gamma Emerald]

I noticed I feel a lot less aggro in my posts since I changed my avatar.

[Gamma Emerald]

I can't really define a solid pool. There's Transcend as my solid choice, then there's secondaries like LQ or keyen/alban.

[Gamma Emerald]

Whoa why are you speaking for Vedith?

[Gamma Emerald]

You're using wiki tells. FANTASTIC

[Gamma Emerald]

Since it's on the wiki, it's easy to subvert.

[Gamma Emerald]

GAMMA AND LICKETY ARE LURKING.............. I SAW YOU POST IN THE OTHER THREADS BUT NOT HERE.......... tongue tied at my questions PROBABLY????

You can piss off. I was focusing on other games, one especially since

I have to be

, so give it a fucking rest.

[Gamma Emerald]

I really cbf to read the game. Summary?

[Gamma Emerald]

I got lost because I forgot how many pages there were.

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah, I was town.

This was a very frustrating game tbh I'm glad I'm out of it.

This is the reason why toto's wagon deflated.
Someone thought he is at l-1, lq congress and votes, someone thinks l is reached, toto thinks so too, and confesses this.

Now three ppl - transcend, tepes and keyen - are again voting for toto. So you don't believe toto's claims on day 1? Why? I am tr-ing him and if you are doubting him without even questioning him, i wanna know why.

Never noticed this and thanks for mentioning it.

[Gamma Emerald]

THAT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE...............??

I thought I was way behind and gave up.

[Gamma Emerald]

Is your logic on me JUST lurking and derailing?

[Gamma Emerald]

TOT was obviously the SCUM....... as seen by how he kept AVOIDING my questions,, and pretending to be town,, his town pretence was not like a town protection act but was more like a SCUM DEFENSIVE ACT;; and when he was being fake hammered he suddenly said he was TOWN and its like he was BEING COACHED IN A MAFIA PRIVATE TOPIC by his MAFIA BUDDIES gamma and lick;;

PLS READ THIS POST ALBAN................ toto is STILL not answering my question, about CHILLEDTEA,, like a scum dodging

The TOWN THING could have been COACHED INSIDE A MAFIA PRIVATE TOPIC BY GAMMA

That would require scum daytalk, and I really have no idea what the case for that is with open games.
Does anyone know any open games that have had variable daychat for scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

READ MY POST................ IT IS ALSO THE THING YOU SAID ABT DEIMOS

and its not JUST lurking and derailing it is CONSTANT LURKING and ONLY COMING IN WHEN I ACCUSED YOU

Why is what I said to Deimos scummy?
Also, pardon me but I have responsibilities so if you can't accept that fact then shut the fuck up.

[Gamma Emerald]

You know what I can't be bothered to deal with this asshole and don't want to subject anyone else to him so
VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Get me out of this hellhole.

[Gamma Emerald]

MY VOTE TAGS SPOILED AGAIN..........!!! So angry AT MYSELF,,

VOTE: TOTO!!!!!!!

I voted for TOTO and not you LICKETY....................... are you reading the game CORRECTLY??? COS ONLY SCUM DO NOT READ THE GAME CORRECTLY.......... SUSPICIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO PROTECT YOUR SCUMMATE GAMMA.......... I SEE THE TRUTH EVEN CLEARY NOW;;

ALSO IN GAMMA'S EARLY POST HE TALKD ABOUT WIKI AND NOW HE IS ACCUSING deimos of using WIKI even though GAMMA ALSO USE WIKI, another contradiction!!!!!!!!

I wasn't USING A WIKI TELL, I was CITING A COMMON STRATEGY FROM THE WIKI, two separate things, GET IT STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gamma Emerald]

I'll say that Toto and alban are very solid TRs of mine.

[Gamma Emerald]

Don't really have many scumreads beyond alban, but I think I can PoE my way to victory after alban's scumflip

Wait that was based on old thoughts shit

This may be a scum slip if he was posting based on opinions he had written down to appear consistent

But I'm not, I just remembered what I was thinking before.

Yuck. Town of Salem. Different beast than this. I wouldn't derail a wagon off of SSBM after doing some thinking (with me on it btw), only to move it onto my partner. That is just dumb.

I like to think of possible associates pre flip

Theory: Toto is scum, and Kain is scum as well wanting to appear pro town by being hyper aggressive, and then when he sees his chance he tries and derail the wagon, but still has the opportunity to vote his buddy should there be no alternative. If Toto does flip scum, you're prime suspect number one for me bud.

Heeeey I noticed this upon ISO.
So you are making Toto!scum theories.

This is why Aubrey was NKed, Gamma and Toto are a team I think. If this is true that's 2/3 scum and game over.

Look at the context moron. I was trying to wring out opinions so he couldn't make up reads after Toto flipped the opposite of what he was basing his theories on.

I can't really define a solid pool. There's Transcend as my solid choice, then there's secondaries like LQ or keyen/alban.

I'll say that Toto and alban are very solid TRs of mine.

VOTE: Gamma
Nice reads on alban m8, care to explain the progression?
Transcend get over here we can do this

I TR alban because scum have no desire to clear a slot.

[Gamma Emerald]

There's no indication in his ISO of anything to change his reads on alban and now he's suddenly got him as a strong TR when he was consistently SRing him all of yesterday. He's also TRing Toto but that read makes a little bit of sense if you read his ISO

I think

. I was more focused on things concerning alban when reading though, so I wasn't watching the Toto read as closely.

This is why dry ISOing is a terrible strategy:

it kills context

.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Gamma

I think, yes, we should vote for him.

This vote is terrible, just as ssbm declares her tunnel keyen votes.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay that is indeed a very good point SSBM.

Gamma, have anything to say about it? In particular regarding the bit about why your stance on alban changed?

Why would alban!scum point up something that cleared someone? They want all the mislynch opportunities they can get.

[Gamma Emerald]

@ssbm: I'm saying alban cleared Toto. Scum has no reason to clear someone like that. I'm not arguing I'm town because I'm clearing alban. That's completely wrong.

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah, I was town.

This was a very frustrating game tbh I'm glad I'm out of it.

This is the reason why toto's wagon deflated.
Someone thought he is at l-1, lq congress and votes, someone thinks l is reached, toto thinks so too, and confesses this.

Now three ppl - transcend, tepes and keyen - are again voting for toto. So you don't believe toto's claims on day 1? Why? I am tr-ing him and if you are doubting him without even questioning him, i wanna know why.

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum have no reason to point out a township like that.

[Gamma Emerald]

But Toto was the lynch du jour at that point.

[Gamma Emerald]

@LQ you're going to have to explain how you think Toto's reaction was faked.

[Gamma Emerald]

@LQ you're going to have to explain how you think Toto's reaction was faked.

Hmm... good point, I forgot about that. I guess I just read all of his posts the same. They all seem to be too specific if that makes sense. Like he doesn't ever use generalities. This indicates that he could be Scum just trying to strategize things.

Okay that makes sense. I regard you as town for now.
I'm thinking PoE may be my method for now.

[Gamma Emerald]

People I have solid TRs on
ssbm
LQ
Toto
alban
Weaker TRs
KT
Chilledtea
SRs
Transcend
keyen
Not winning any Participation Awards
Deimos
Vedith

[Gamma Emerald]

DUMB is also insult to people who cannot SPEAK,, because the original meaning of word DUMB is to not speak,, and you are using the word DUMB like it is meaning of a stupid person like an INSULT............. that is that you saying peopl who cannot speak are STUPID,, that is insult

If you are able to make rational posts like this you can cut the caps lock garbage.

[Gamma Emerald]

Like, why do you exaggerate your posts?

[Gamma Emerald]

zzz
Actúa al explanation of why your posts read like a 5 year old plz

[Gamma Emerald]

What is up with autocorrect

[Gamma Emerald]

THE SCUMS ARE GANGING UP on ME...................... you may be LAUGHING now but when we lynch you both WE WILL BE THE ONES WINNERS..................... SO I WILL ENDURE YOUR BULLYING POSTS,,

I'm not SRing you though.

[Gamma Emerald]

It's obviously conscientious, just roll with it

What is?

[Gamma Emerald]

What does that word mean though
Conscientious.

[Gamma Emerald]

People I have solid TRs on
ssbm
LQ
Toto
alban
Weaker TRs
KT
Chilledtea
SRs
Transcend
keyen
Not winning any Participation Awards
Deimos
Vedith

Why is sbbm so high in this list?

I had a slight tr on vedith d1 but I agree we havent seen much of him lately.

ssbm's push on me felt genuine.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Gamma

I think, yes, we should vote for him.

Fix this

[Gamma Emerald]

Who's not acting townish but not scum for my standards:
Vedith

I don't care about your standards.

Scummy but not so strong:
Transcend

I don't care about your standards.

This is hilarious.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Transcend

[Gamma Emerald]

OK so gamma alban(ArcAngel) keyen look good to me now. Going to go back and look at the wagons on keyen and alban now

Pardon?

[Gamma Emerald]

What restrengthened your read?

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait, so you see us as town, but you like your SR on me?

[Gamma Emerald]

I AM OK WITH VOTING GAMMA....... or............. lick............!!! i will join the WAGON THAT BIGGER...... we just lynch ONE TODAY THE OTHER TOMORROW THEN WE WINll

What happened to Toto?

[Gamma Emerald]

Toto is scum morons but sure, lynch the obvtown

My give a fuck level is nonexistent since you lynched an obv town d1, ignored everything i said, and now you're lynching an even more obv town aka me.

I know the loss is inevitable since the only way you scrubs are gonna win this game is if you successfully scumhunt two mafia out. As this is mountainous, you have no bloody chance.

So yeah, I'm not joking when i say that KainTepes is playing the most logical out of you numbskulls right now.

Sweet buddying.

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw, how townread was my slot?

Why?

[Gamma Emerald]

How town was Gamma?

GAMMA IS SCUM,,

Okay

VOTE: Gamma

Play for yourself genius.

[Gamma Emerald]

alban/ArcAngel9

vs

Gamma Emerald
Toto
Vedith

If you townread AA why don't you townread Toto?

[Gamma Emerald]

Someone sell me on a gamma case. I don't think all these votes on me are scummy, rather, just bad. Toto's vote on me was a clear cut omgus.

Fabulous! You are obviously content to scum it up.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
I heard what I wanted and totally convinced with Transcend. But I still disagree on why Toto is scummy.

But this is a possibility:
Gamma > LQ > Chilled

PEdit: My name's Keyen.

Nice walking back of your vote.
Seems I'm finally in my groove d2.

[Gamma Emerald]

My scumpool is chilledtea, Gamma Emerald, Toto and Vedith.

Enjoy

Ew this feels like it's all town.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
I heard what I wanted and totally convinced with Transcend. But I still disagree on why Toto is scummy.

But this is a possibility:
Gamma > LQ > Chilled

PEdit: My name's Keyen.

Would consider lynching LQ first.

Gamma and chilled is possible town tho

Explain plz

[Gamma Emerald]

My scumpool is chilledtea, Gamma Emerald, Toto and Vedith.

Enjoy

Ew this feels like it's all town.

Is your wincon to ensure that a single mafia doesn't get lynched?

Yes, you caught me, I'm a special hidden third party is to avoid any scum deaths in an open game.

[Gamma Emerald]

Odd, you've gotten that wincon in every other game you've played on this site as well.

Listen, I don't appreciate this kind of talk. Cut it out.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah looking at Transcend's play compared to past examples of his townplay (Mini 1841, Open 658), this is not town!Transcend.

[Gamma Emerald]

town!Transcend has a swagger in his pushes that is definitely missing right now.

[Gamma Emerald]

Meta only sucks when you're wrong.

[Gamma Emerald]

I know how T plays as town and this is not it.

[Gamma Emerald]

TRANS

[Gamma Emerald]

Transcend, yes.
Isn't it ASTONISHING that I don't think the same way as you?

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma

I thought you were calling Toto town.

I am.

[Gamma Emerald]

considering what I said when i last voted gamma, he isn't even scum hunting which isn't a protown thing to do.

That's a lie. I love how everyone seems to love saying "this guys not realky playing". It's really obvious you're scum when you do that.
At this rate I won't have the support to lynch my scumreads, so I make a proposition: you can lynch me today then lynch keyen or Transcend tomorrow. I will selfvote to make this happen.