Mini 1849 : DotA Mafia [R2 - SD] Game Over?!!

MathBlade · Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:24 am

In post 1797, Vedith wrote:
In post 1793, MathBlade wrote:No it wouldn't be. Because the game is fucking solved if Creature is town. That is a hell of a lot more Town reads. You can only be scum with LLD that doesn't mean a lynch in us three gives a town read.
"Game solved" this kid says.

No, when it's you and Sonia as the fuccboi scum pair, you push a lynch on Creature - He flips town, you push one on me or LDD, and that's town.

I'm really trying to resist anything that may be insultive here so instead - [Comment]

Okay assume for a second Sonia town. What changes?

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:24 am

In post 1798, Vedith wrote:
In post 1794, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:There was no new info though we all gylphed so don't try that bs on me
Oh yeah, I forgot BRantz flipping town wasn't information...
Do you think before you speak, Sonia?

I know what he flipped but that should have no relation to your tr on me smart one

Leonshade · Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:25 am

In post 1793, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1788, Vedith wrote:
In post 1782, MathBlade wrote:I only scumread you with one person LLD. Therefore the odds are you are misguided Town.
So since I can only be scum with LDD, and the other way round for you, a town mind set would to be lynch out of us and give a town read for LyLo if wrong, right?

Scum Math thinking here -
No it wouldn't be. Because the game is fucking solved if Creature is town. That is a hell of a lot more Town reads. You can only be scum with LLD that doesn't mean a lynch in us three gives a town read.

Look at the disparity between everyone's reads. Even if the game is "solved" for you if Creature flips scum, you still have to convince two other town players.

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:25 am

I agree Creature/RR aren't a scum team but I think there on dif sides.

Creature · Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:25 am

Sickofit seemed town, MathBlade not so much.

Leonshade · Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:25 am

In post 1802, Leonshade wrote:
In post 1793, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1788, Vedith wrote:
In post 1782, MathBlade wrote:I only scumread you with one person LLD. Therefore the odds are you are misguided Town.
So since I can only be scum with LDD, and the other way round for you, a town mind set would to be lynch out of us and give a town read for LyLo if wrong, right?

Scum Math thinking here -
No it wouldn't be. Because the game is fucking solved if Creature is town. That is a hell of a lot more Town reads. You can only be scum with LLD that doesn't mean a lynch in us three gives a town read.
Look at the disparity between everyone's reads. Even if the game is "solved" for you if Creature flips town, you still have to convince two other town players.

EBWOP.

Vedith · Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:28 am

In post 1800, MathBlade wrote:Okay assume for a second Sonia town. What changes?

RR is your buddy.

My turn.
Assume you were magically town (It's not a joke, we are working here).
Assume I'm town, assume Creature is town... Who's scum then?

Game solved... Yeah, no.

Vedith · Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:29 am

In post 1804, Creature wrote:Sickofit seemed town, MathBlade not so much.

No, you are saying that because he's pushing you and sickofit had you as town. Stop being so bias. sickofit was scum from his day 1 actions alone.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:30 am

Vote Count 3.05xSoniaNevermindx (2): Creature, Veidth
Creature (1): MathBlade
Leonshade (1): xSoniaNevermindx

Not Voting (3): Radical Rat, Lady Lambdadelta, Leonshade

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2016-12-29 18:00:00)

Note : Lady Lambdadelta is V/LA till 20th.

MathBlade · Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:30 am

In post 1805, Leonshade wrote:
In post 1802, Leonshade wrote:
In post 1793, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1788, Vedith wrote:
In post 1782, MathBlade wrote:I only scumread you with one person LLD. Therefore the odds are you are misguided Town.
So since I can only be scum with LDD, and the other way round for you, a town mind set would to be lynch out of us and give a town read for LyLo if wrong, right?

Scum Math thinking here -
No it wouldn't be. Because the game is fucking solved if Creature is town. That is a hell of a lot more Town reads. You can only be scum with LLD that doesn't mean a lynch in us three gives a town read.
Look at the disparity between everyone's reads. Even if the game is "solved" for you if Creature flips town, you still have to convince two other town players.
EBWOP.

Then I bring everyone along. I have done it before and will do it again if I have to. I did it in a game to get Lowell I just was wrong on the other scum. I can and will continue fighting for my reads and demonstrate them. That is what Mafia is all about. It is about clawing, fighting, pushing, arguing. Scum aren't going to bus this close to MyLO so I fight. It isn't clean it isn't present. Hell my first game I ran into literally a 5 page wall war with a person I was scumreading and convinced a town lynch two minutes to the end of the game.

MathBlade · Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:31 am

Isn't pretty*

MathBlade · Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:31 am

A town lynch of scum*

MathBlade · Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:32 am

In post 1806, Vedith wrote:
In post 1800, MathBlade wrote:Okay assume for a second Sonia town. What changes?
RR is your buddy.

My turn.
Assume you were magically town (It's not a joke, we are working here).
Assume I'm town, assume Creature is town... Who's scum then?

Game solved... Yeah, no.

Impossible as LLD would have scum claimed partners with you if Creature is town.

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:33 am

In post 1812, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1806, Vedith wrote:
In post 1800, MathBlade wrote:Okay assume for a second Sonia town. What changes?
RR is your buddy.

My turn.
Assume you were magically town (It's not a joke, we are working here).
Assume I'm town, assume Creature is town... Who's scum then?

Game solved... Yeah, no.
Impossible as LLD would have scum claimed partners with you if Creature is town.

Are we ever gonna get details on this

Leonshade · Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:35 am

You're certainly confident, but your ability to get everyone to come around to your reads only comforts me if you're town, and if you're right. I'm not certain of either of those.

P-edit: @Math.

MathBlade · Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:36 am

In post 1813, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 1812, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1806, Vedith wrote:
In post 1800, MathBlade wrote:Okay assume for a second Sonia town. What changes?
RR is your buddy.

My turn.
Assume you were magically town (It's not a joke, we are working here).
Assume I'm town, assume Creature is town... Who's scum then?

Game solved... Yeah, no.
Impossible as LLD would have scum claimed partners with you if Creature is town.
Are we ever gonna get details on this

If I need to yes. Would rather just focus on Creature because I believe it to be a reaction test. If I say what happened it will bias the entire thread and then no one will actually play mafia.

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:36 am

In post 1814, Leonshade wrote:You're certainly confident, but your ability to get everyone to come around to your reads only comforts me if you're town, and if you're right. I'm not certain of either of those.

P-edit: @Math.

What can I do to get you to vote Creature within the next 30 minutes?

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:36 am

Or Vedith for that matter

MathBlade · Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:36 am

In post 1814, Leonshade wrote:You're certainly confident, but your ability to get everyone to come around to your reads only comforts me if you're town, and if you're right. I'm not certain of either of those.

P-edit: @Math.

What aren't you certain on? Let's start there.

Leonshade · Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:36 am

In post 1816, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 1814, Leonshade wrote:You're certainly confident, but your ability to get everyone to come around to your reads only comforts me if you're town, and if you're right. I'm not certain of either of those.

P-edit: @Math.
What can I do to get you to vote Creature within the next 30 minutes?

Nothing, I don't want a quicklynch. There's still discussion to be had.

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:37 am

And I was starting to like you...

Vedith · Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:42 am

In post 1815, MathBlade wrote:because I believe it to be a reaction test.

This is preparing 2 mis lynches.
He believes it to be a reaction test but LDD is going to be scum for it.

Vedith · Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:43 am

In post 1817, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Or Vedith for that matter

"Vedith called me scum, kick scream kick shout".
Go away Sonia, no one wants to talk to you. :<

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:44 am

YouYou're right I called you scum cause your read progression doesn't make sense and blaming it all on one flip is blah

MathBlade · Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:45 am

In post 1821, Vedith wrote:
In post 1815, MathBlade wrote:because I believe it to be a reaction test.
This is preparing 2 mis lynches.
He believes it to be a reaction test but LDD is going to be scum for it.

1) I am a THEY.
2) I do believe it to be right now. If Creature is town it wasn't. It isn't planning for mislynches it would be confronting reality.
3) If I am scum and Creature is town why would I plan two mislynches after that?