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Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
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Request granted.In post 98, Human Sequencer wrote:I'm not worried about a flash lynch.
I'm just a lot more interested in what Ircher has to say about a Gamma wagon than I am with the players reversed.
VOTE: Gamma“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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TheRealGin-N-Tonic Jack of All Trades
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Ah, game did start, got it :p
@work right now so I'll be on to talk in like 4 hours maybe 5.
Quick scim tells me we are doing a gamma wagon. Why is that?“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
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In post 39, Gamma Emerald wrote:What? Did the use of the word "ugly" become a scumtell?
I liked these two posts. Grey stated his responses were humor, but I disagree - he would've stopped with his first response if it was simply humor. Continuing to call it scum posts makes people believe it is serious.In post 42, Gamma Emerald wrote:
No, that's no slip. I'm asking if "ugly" is said more by town than scum.In post 40, -Grey- wrote:
See? His guilty scum mind confesses in his confusion!In post 39, Gamma Emerald wrote:What? Did the use of the word "ugly" become a scumtell?
Surprised by my quick deduction that he is scum, he questions how I caught him.
BTW people need to post here FAST.
Gamma's reactions were fine -- he is questioning Grey's reads because there dies not appear to be evidence supporting them.-
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Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
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What chainsaw?In post 77, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yo cut the chainsaw PAL.-
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Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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In post 76, Ircher wrote:I think the Gamma case is relevant right now. Now, please kindly share w/ the rest of the game as I don't see it.
Pedit: It's neutral at worse, pro-town at best. Yes, stagnation is a problem and why deadlines exist, but a bigger problem imo are deadline lynch scrambles. You never know until that point, but I'd say it's better safe than sorry.
Pedit2:Scumreads: Grey, Human Sequencer right now.<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”-
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This post reads scum to me. I don't really see a town motivation for counting on an inactive player to provide discussion. I mean, that's kind of the opposite of what "inactive" means! A townie who's frustrated with the discussion not going their way usually takes the initiative to provide that discussion themself, but Gamma doesn't. As scum hoping to hold back, his mindset here makes a lot more sense.In post 93, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm not seeing the type of discussion I want.
Maybe the inactives will provide.
VOTE: Gamma Emeralddear princess celestia, sometimes it can be hard for a shy pony like me to stand up for myself, and when i first tried it, i didn't like the pony i became. but i've learned that standing up for yourself isn't the same as changing who you are. now i know how to put my hoof down without being unpleasant or mean-
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Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
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1) Why are you so keen on GammaIn post 12, -Grey- wrote:In post 8, Naomi-Tan wrote:Normally I do this a little later but im up and wanna talk and like keeping this at my second ISO post so. For those who know this post feel free to skip it yadda yadda.
Hi, I'm Naomi I have kinda a strange play style. Firstly Rather than calling people town or Scum I call them Green or Red This is because Its just a nicer thing to call people. I dislike calling people scum as its kinda mean so I switched to the color thing and it appears to have caught on rather well in other games I've been in. Thats not so major. but Its a good thing to note.
Okay so onto the bulk of stuff. My playstyle Is kinda weird. I don't like dying as either alignment and try to stay alive. this means that sometimes I do actions to just look more green and sometimes and Im suspectable to peer pressure. To midigate this I tend to play entirely openly and honestly examining things and doing what I can to contribute to town. But things like Lamist actions are things I tend to do as both alignments. If anyone wants to read my town meta feel free to explore my wiki page (ordered chronologically with my most recent games at the bottom of either list) But this is a quick overview to protect my butt from future Red efforts (as they can push me on; Look there doing that thing thats normally red but isn't for them) and so Greens don't push me for being me. I also am probably forgetting somethings. As i'm sleepySpoiler:
TL;DR> She posts this stuff as town. Save your RVS votes for Gamma.
2) How is this in any way indicative of alignment
My 3rd Q here was already answered.
If it were humor, there was no reason to post this follow-up after the first post.In post 40, -Grey- wrote:
See? His guilty scum mind confesses in his confusion!In post 39, Gamma Emerald wrote:What? Did the use of the word "ugly" become a scumtell?
Surprised by my quick deduction that he is scum, he questions how I caught him.
Not really. And why would people vote someone outside the beginning of the game for making a single LAMIST wall?In post 58, -Grey- wrote:
As I quoted, she made the same kind of post on another game she played where she was town.In post 54, Ircher wrote:How do you know with such little experience on this site? I mean, experience != skill, but it's kinda hard you can already read a player based off a single post being only a month on the site.
It was not posted as proof of her alignment, just to stop paranoid players from wasting time voting her over that wall because it's NAI.
My post seemed pretty self-explanatory, to me.
You knew what I meant.In post 67, -Grey- wrote:
61 wasn't a joke, I agree one is enough.In post 63, Ircher wrote:
If it was humor, you wouldn't've made the quoted post. One joke is enough.In post 61, -Grey- wrote:
56 suggests otherwise.In post 60, Ircher wrote:No one did. Don't be rude.
And? People can manipulate their meta. It's the trends that matter, but you have to realize that it has to be a hard-to-manipulate trend. If, as you say, Naomi only posts that as town, then the post has become borderline-Trust Tell as a result. Anyway, it isn't a hard thing to do as scum so the entire post is null.In post 68, -Grey- wrote:
Neither. It's not advanced physics to check a player's history and see the same kind of post in other games.In post 64, Gamma Emerald wrote:Grey's a bit of a poser. Either that or he's an alt.-
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Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand Idea
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Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
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This is what I'm looking for. While I agree with the premise stated here, I don't think it warrants a wagon in comparison to everything else Gamma has done so far.In post 108, All Alone wrote:
This post reads scum to me. I don't really see a town motivation for counting on an inactive player to provide discussion. I mean, that's kind of the opposite of what "inactive" means! A townie who's frustrated with the discussion not going their way usually takes the initiative to provide that discussion themself, but Gamma doesn't. As scum hoping to hold back, his mindset here makes a lot more sense.In post 93, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm not seeing the type of discussion I want.
Maybe the inactives will provide.
VOTE: Gamma Emerald-
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“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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"-grey- would hardclaim an inno on his obv-scum partner D2 in a micro if he could" - gigabyteTroubadour
"You type like a Bond villain." - DogWatch-
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TheRealGin-N-Tonic Jack of All Trades
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Nah it's town.In post 108, All Alone wrote:
This post reads scum to me. I don't really see a town motivation for counting on an inactive player to provide discussion. I mean, that's kind of the opposite of what "inactive" means! A townie who's frustrated with the discussion not going their way usually takes the initiative to provide that discussion themself, but Gamma doesn't. As scum hoping to hold back, his mindset here makes a lot more sense.In post 93, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm not seeing the type of discussion I want.
Maybe the inactives will provide.
VOTE: Gamma Emerald
It's day 1 first few pages. It's evident, at least to me that Gamma doesn't care about the wagon on him, but instead is interested in the inactives, or those that will try to hide behind a bandwagon so they don't have to contribute much to the discussion.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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-Grey- Jack of All Trades
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What do you make of Ircher?In post 114, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
Nah it's town.In post 108, All Alone wrote:
This post reads scum to me. I don't really see a town motivation for counting on an inactive player to provide discussion. I mean, that's kind of the opposite of what "inactive" means! A townie who's frustrated with the discussion not going their way usually takes the initiative to provide that discussion themself, but Gamma doesn't. As scum hoping to hold back, his mindset here makes a lot more sense.In post 93, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm not seeing the type of discussion I want.
Maybe the inactives will provide.
VOTE: Gamma Emerald
It's day 1 first few pages. It's evident, at least to me that Gamma doesn't care about the wagon on him, but instead is interested in the inactives, or those that will try to hide behind a bandwagon so they don't have to contribute much to the discussion.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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"-grey- would hardclaim an inno on his obv-scum partner D2 in a micro if he could" - gigabyteTroubadour
"You type like a Bond villain." - DogWatch-
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Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
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Then why'd you bring it up? We're back to square one.
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All the one that keeps whining about it.In post 116, Ircher wrote:Then why'd you bring it up? We're back to square one.
“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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"-grey- would hardclaim an inno on his obv-scum partner D2 in a micro if he could" - gigabyteTroubadour
"You type like a Bond villain." - DogWatch-
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Ask*“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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"-grey- would hardclaim an inno on his obv-scum partner D2 in a micro if he could" - gigabyteTroubadour
"You type like a Bond villain." - DogWatch-
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=68600
Just going to leave this here. Everyone should read up to page 5.<Embrace The Void>
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TheRealGin-N-Tonic Jack of All Trades
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ive skimmed the posts, say a quick refresh an wanted to give my thoughts, don't expect much but during my next break I'll take a look.
Don't try to rush me because I couldn't care less how slow I take. I'm a thinker not a fighter“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
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-Grey- Jack of All Trades
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Relax champ, I'll be back on your wagon before long.In post 121, Ircher wrote:There once was a scum named Grey
Who was keen to tunnel his prey.
Try as he might, he just couldn't be right
And in the end we all just pray.
I know you miss me.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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"-grey- would hardclaim an inno on his obv-scum partner D2 in a micro if he could" - gigabyteTroubadour
"You type like a Bond villain." - DogWatch-
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